concern for pixars next movie
- Thread starter ankensam
- Start date
Recommended Videos
Out of curiousity, is that including or excluding things like the Prize trailer? Because I know that for me at least the newer trailers are making me question the movie's worth, while the older ones have me curious. Honestly, I think that's the most jarring thing about this movie's pre-release: how radically different the early teasers/trailers are from the later ones. The former made Brave look like a serious production, whereas the latter seem to be pushing the 'this is a zany comedy' angle.Caramel Frappe said:
For reference:
You're watching the wrong "kiddy flicks" if you think that The Incredibles is actually a kiddy flick.Clearing the Eye said:Just not my thing, it seems. I'm more into movies like Antichrist, Jacob's Ladder, Resovoir Dogs, Martyrs--more sort of serious films that involve a lot of thinking. I guess I'm too uptight to enjoy a bit of a fun, kiddy flickVault101 said:
I've enjoyed every Pixar film that I've ever sat down to watch, and the only two that I haven't seen are Ratatouille and Cars 2.
While I disliked the trailer, I dislike most Pixar trailers but always end up pleasantly surprised. This happened with Wall-E and UP, both of which I refused to watch until finally giving it a chance and being amazed by the quality and story.
I would give Brave a 90% chance of being an incredible movie like the rest.
While I disliked the trailer, I dislike most Pixar trailers but always end up pleasantly surprised. This happened with Wall-E and UP, both of which I refused to watch until finally giving it a chance and being amazed by the quality and story.
I would give Brave a 90% chance of being an incredible movie like the rest.
I actually more excited about this than any other pixar film in awhile. Maybe it's because it's so unique for pixar to a film in this style.
Well, I think that there doesn't have to be one single joke to hold a movie together. Why? It forces the movie to get more creative. Cars had very high ''it's funny cause they are cars'' levels, but most of the jokes didn't work for me. I mean, sum up Tangled in one joke. You can't do it, because they get really creative with it, writing funny jokes, jokes that can be funny on their own, you don't need to see the movie to be able to laugh at them.
And of course, if you have just one single joke, it's going to get really old. The first time, it's funny, the second, it's ok but by the thrid time, you're already sick of it. That's why I didn't like Cars all that much: I was sick of the carjokes after about fifteen minutes, at which point, i still had more then an hour of them awaiting me.
And of course, if you have just one single joke, it's going to get really old. The first time, it's funny, the second, it's ok but by the thrid time, you're already sick of it. That's why I didn't like Cars all that much: I was sick of the carjokes after about fifteen minutes, at which point, i still had more then an hour of them awaiting me.
I'll probably see Brave. It looks interesting enough.
Slightly off-topic, I recently went to my local mall and noticed that they were selling Brave toys. Some of which made the main character look all pretty and fair looking, which, from what I understand from the trailers, is kind of the opposite of what the main character is. Just an observation really.
Slightly off-topic, I recently went to my local mall and noticed that they were selling Brave toys. Some of which made the main character look all pretty and fair looking, which, from what I understand from the trailers, is kind of the opposite of what the main character is. Just an observation really.
Yeah. I'm surprised more people don't share my excitement.lord canti said:
A lot of Pixar films have a specifically cartoony feel and aesthetic. More so than many actual Disney cartoons. I find the Incredibles and Cars to be really obnoxious. I really dislike those movies. And when designing humans, they tend to have these weird facial proportions and expressions. Like gigantic chins and weird, often bulging eyes that look like what I would describe as overacting.
That's not to say that all Pixar films get on my nerves, other than the fact as an American they're shoved down my throat by the mainstream media all the time. And being overexposed to something from the mainstream media almost always makes me mildly annoyed by it. But when a Pixar film annoys me, it really annoys me.
This film has a little bit of that, too. But the setting and protagonist are so interesting that I don't really care.
Hm? What do you mean? The Incredibles is a movie made primarily for children. I'm not saying such films can't have deeper context or be entertaining for adults. Just that movies made where children or young adolescents are the target audience don't generally appeal to me. Most of the subjects I enjoy thinking on or seeing play out are inherently adult--things you can't work into a film with a rating that would allow kids to see it.Signa said:You're watching the wrong "kiddy flicks" if you think that The Incredibles is actually a kiddy flick.Clearing the Eye said:Just not my thing, it seems. I'm more into movies like Antichrist, Jacob's Ladder, Resovoir Dogs, Martyrs--more sort of serious films that involve a lot of thinking. I guess I'm too uptight to enjoy a bit of a fun, kiddy flickVault101 said:
It's not that movies like Toy Story, Up!, The Incredibles or Bambi are bad and there's a whole lot of subject matter that goes straight over your average kid's head and some really subtle and clever ideas that are super well written--there's a reason they are classics. But I've sort of been there and done all that, so to speak. I'm more interested now in films that explore things like sex and the human condition. I don't like the whole cliche of calling movies "art films" because it's counterproductive, but the kind of things that generally get brushed off as pretentious and "artsy" are more my forte. I'm too boring and I think too much to sit back and just enjoy a lower key flick nowadays, lol.
Are you sure that's what the movie is about? Judging a book by its cover, and all.370999 said:
Well, you did say it could be good, you're just not enthusiastic. I agree with you there. Nothing about it has really sparked any interest in me at all. I had forgotten it existed until this thread, lol.
Well, I started reading your post and I was about to say you just don't get it, but it looks like you half get it. Incredibles actually explores a lot about the human condition and has some deep themes about betrayal and the need to be the best you can be in it that a kid just won't fully grasp. There's even an underlying question that is posed asking what makes a person "super." I like to refer to movies like The Incredibles not as "kiddie" but as "family." Quite literally the whole family can enjoy the movie, because it brings something for everyone. Calling a movie "kiddy" is rather insulting to movies that aren't aimed solely at kids. I agree that many Disney movies, movies I still enjoy from time to time, still could be called "kiddie." Shows like Avatar or Batman the Animated series brings elements to the table that aren't fair to call "kiddie."Clearing the Eye said:Hm? What do you mean? The Incredibles is a movie made primarily for children. I'm not saying such films can't have deeper context or be entertaining for adults. Just that movies made where children or young adolescents are the target audience don't generally appeal to me. Most of the subjects I enjoy thinking on or seeing play out are inherently adult--things you can't work into a film with a rating that would allow kids to see it.Signa said:You're watching the wrong "kiddy flicks" if you think that The Incredibles is actually a kiddy flick.Clearing the Eye said:Just not my thing, it seems. I'm more into movies like Antichrist, Jacob's Ladder, Resovoir Dogs, Martyrs--more sort of serious films that involve a lot of thinking. I guess I'm too uptight to enjoy a bit of a fun, kiddy flickVault101 said:
It's not that movies like Toy Story, Up!, The Incredibles or Bambi are bad and there's a whole lot of subject matter that goes straight over your average kid's head and some really subtle and clever ideas that are super well written--there's a reason they are classics. But I've sort of been there and done all that, so to speak. I'm more interested now in films that explore things like sex and the human condition. I don't like the whole cliche of calling movies "art films" because it's counterproductive, but the kind of things that generally get brushed off as pretentious and "artsy" are more my forte. I'm too boring and I think too much to sit back and just enjoy a lower key flick nowadays, lol.
I'm also afraid when I hear comments like the ones you have made that you are just writing off all animated media because you're too mature for it. I don't know if that's how you feel, but there's a lot of others who you are echoing who do feel that way.
It's quite obvious what the joke is - 'What if we animated Scottish people?'
C'mon guys, it looks good. It did remind me a bit of How to Train Your Dragon, only with less Dragons and more red hair.
C'mon guys, it looks good. It did remind me a bit of How to Train Your Dragon, only with less Dragons and more red hair.
Nah, not at all. I think anyone who thinks they're too mature to enjoy or to get something from an animated movie is kidding themselves; since when does being mature have anything to do with what kind of film you enjoy? You could be one of the wisest and most well informed people out there and still love a good, brainless comedy or over the top action.Signa said:Well, I started reading your post and I was about to say you just don't get it, but it looks like you half get it. Incredibles actually explores a lot about the human condition and has some deep themes about betrayal and the need to be the best you can be in it that a kid just won't fully grasp. There's even an underlying question that is posed asking what makes a person "super." I like to refer to movies like The Incredibles not as "kiddie" but as "family." Quite literally the whole family can enjoy the movie, because it brings something for everyone. Calling a movie "kiddy" is rather insulting to movies that aren't aimed solely at kids. I agree that many Disney movies, movies I still enjoy from time to time, still could be called "kiddie." Shows like Avatar or Batman the Animated series brings elements to the table that aren't fair to call "kiddie."Clearing the Eye said:Hm? What do you mean? The Incredibles is a movie made primarily for children. I'm not saying such films can't have deeper context or be entertaining for adults. Just that movies made where children or young adolescents are the target audience don't generally appeal to me. Most of the subjects I enjoy thinking on or seeing play out are inherently adult--things you can't work into a film with a rating that would allow kids to see it.Signa said:You're watching the wrong "kiddy flicks" if you think that The Incredibles is actually a kiddy flick.Clearing the Eye said:Just not my thing, it seems. I'm more into movies like Antichrist, Jacob's Ladder, Resovoir Dogs, Martyrs--more sort of serious films that involve a lot of thinking. I guess I'm too uptight to enjoy a bit of a fun, kiddy flickVault101 said:
It's not that movies like Toy Story, Up!, The Incredibles or Bambi are bad and there's a whole lot of subject matter that goes straight over your average kid's head and some really subtle and clever ideas that are super well written--there's a reason they are classics. But I've sort of been there and done all that, so to speak. I'm more interested now in films that explore things like sex and the human condition. I don't like the whole cliche of calling movies "art films" because it's counterproductive, but the kind of things that generally get brushed off as pretentious and "artsy" are more my forte. I'm too boring and I think too much to sit back and just enjoy a lower key flick nowadays, lol.
I'm also afraid when I hear comments like the ones you have made that you are just writing off all animated media because you're too mature for it. I don't know if that's how you feel, but there's a lot of others who you are echoing who do feel that way.
I can see where you could get the idea that I think these family movies are less intelligent or lacking in context. But that's totally not what I mean. Rather, the context and meaning they do have, is just not what I'm interested in mostly. For example, I spend a lot of time studying psychology and the ins and outs of culture and sociology are fascinating. While there's plenty of material with these elements in family movies, the variety I find most interesting can't be worked into a film kids will see.
Deadgirl is a good example. It's basically about two guys finding a woman strapped to a table that can't die. One of them uses her as a sex slave. There's a lot to it, but obviously I'm not gonna talk about all of it. The point is, when my mum saw this movie she was repulsed at the surface content and totally unable to see past it. That in and of itself was interesting to me, because instead of being a horror that was scary, it was a horror story that made someone actually uncomfortable with watching it. I asked her if she was scared and she said no. "The movie isn't scary. I'm just worried what it will tell people about how to treat women." Amazing, I thought. The film had a big impact on her just because it existed.
I think it looks very good actually. The animation looks stunning, the character design is distinctive and I found the humour in the trailer pretty good too. The bit from the archery scene is pretty funny and visually stunning.
Interestingly enough this is the first Pixar film with a female lead character so the first from a female perspective. Maybe this is what is causing all the doubt.
I will say that I'm feeling sorry for all the people who had to animate all that hair.
Also, how are they going to fit the Pizza Planet tuck into this?
Interestingly enough this is the first Pixar film with a female lead character so the first from a female perspective. Maybe this is what is causing all the doubt.
I will say that I'm feeling sorry for all the people who had to animate all that hair.
Also, how are they going to fit the Pizza Planet tuck into this?