Concerning Final Fantasy 7, 10, and 12.

[Jandau]

First of all, I have no idea what pre-7 FF game I liked the most, generally due to the numbering disaster that came with Western releases. So when talking about FF2-6 I'm never quite sure which game is being discussed.

For the middle generation (7-10), I only liked FFIX. VIII was atrociously bad, with retarded game mechanics, bad characters, pitiful plot, etc. VII I never got into, mostly because it falls into my least favourite visual style - The time when designers discovered 3D graphics, but before they properly discovered textures. The game just hurts my eyes so much I can't stand it. FFX was ok, but not much beyond that.

FFIX was a fun game, interesting characters, decent plot, liked almost everything about it. It just sort of clicked with me. My only major complaint is the WTF final boss fight where the final boss is basically pulled out of someone's arse and makes no sense.

 

[Chibz]

Since everyone is giving their 2-cents on the series... Here's a full dollar.

FF1: Eh, gets the series going. Convoluted plot that is mostly ignorable. Like that I can name my guys. Choose what they are.
FF2: I love the level system or lack thereof. Very slick.
FF3: Able to switch class at will, and love the onion knight. 4 onion knight run. Anyone else stupid enough to try?!
FF4: Reasonably good narrative. Reasonably good gameplay.
FF5: Back to awesome gameplay at the cost of the narrative. I can live with this.
FF6: Awesome narrative, at the cost of gameplay. Why is it that Square can't do BOTH?
FF7: Things startin' to slip. Awful narrative, questionable gameplay.
FF8: The narrative makes perfect sense when viewed in a certain light. [http://squallsdead.com/]
FF9: No opinion today, sorry.
FF10: OH GOD IT BURNS. Hate the gameplay, hate the narrative. Hate Tidus more than anything. I WILL GUT HIM LIKE SHEEP.
FF10-2: I didn't buy it after how much I hated FF10. Sorry.
FF11: MMORPG, no thanks. Next.
FF12: OH GOD IT BURNS. AGAIN. Vaan almost made me wish for Tidus back. The narrative was exceedingly boring. Plus I just set up gambits and walked around. Sure I enjoyed not having to actually play the game, but at that point it's like watching a movie. A bad movie.
FF13: Sorry, but if I actually bought this I'd check myself into therapy.

What FF needs is a return to centre...

 

[Manji187]

I pray to see the day that everybody realizes that "I liked it" is not an argument.

I pray to see the day that everybody realizes that "I hated it" is not an argument.

Well duh...isn't it obvious the opposite is also true?

It's just that you are more likely to stumble upon a comment that goes "What the hell is all the fuss about with game XYZ?....I LIKED IT." As if such a statement has any argumentative value.

I wasn't implying that hating a game is any more objective than liking a game. Under the precondition that no substantive arguments are adduced, of course.

 

[Jerubbaal]

/facepalm

Shinra wants to follow Sephiroth in hopes of finding a land overflowing with mako and to get back Jenova, not because of any power Sephiroth has. Also, nothing is made clear about Jenova except that she was important in the development of Mako energy. Literally none of the logical reasons for chasing Sephiroth (i.e. he's going to destroy the planet) are given in disc 1, and they have no good reason to stop focusing on fighting Shinra.

The story is nonsensical, plain and simple. Or, to quote you, to say it makes since isn't just a matter of opinion, it's simply untrue.

 

[Rodin]

Having played through FF VII I didn't enjoy it as much as some of the others. In MY OPINION it is overrated.

FF X I think I spent the most time playing of any FF game, trying for large amounts of time to get the perfect sphere grid, which although repetitive and tedious gave me great memories of the game. Not to mention capturing 10 of every creature.

FF XII...hmm...I enjoyed this game aswell. To me it played like an MMORPG without having to rely on other people to do their jobs within the party. Yes the gambit system could be abused but 1 gambit setup would never work for all the battles.

Slightly unrelated to the topic however, I regard FF VIII as my favourite game of all time, but I find it hard to give reasons why.

All in all, many of the FF games would be highly rated on my top games list if I ever got around to making one.

 

[nyysjan]

I pray to see the day that everybody realizes that "I liked it" is not an argument.

I pray to see the day that everybody realizes that "I hated it" is not an argument.

Well duh...isn't it obvious the opposite is also true?

It's just that you are more likely to stumble upon a comment that goes "What the hell is all the fuss about with game XYZ?....I LIKED IT." As if such a statement has any argumentative value.

I wasn't implying that hating a game is any more objective than liking a game. Under the precondition that no substantive arguments are adduced, of course.

One would hope so, but no, it's not obvious (well, it's obvious to me, but internet being what it is, i can't take it on faith it's obvious to rest of the people).

And in my experience you are just as, if not more, likely to hear someone say the game "sucked" without any qualitive statements added.
Probably because if someone loved a game, they are more likely to keep talking about it, and all the great things in it.

Not to mention that even substantive arguments are often subjective, because people like different things.

 

[Strain42]

7 was ok, I don't have any major opinions on it. I didn't love it, and I am a little annoyed by all the overjoyed hype it gets, but I don't let that cloud my opinion of the game itself. I don't hate it just because it's popular.

10 was the last Final Fantasy game (excluding ports/remakes of older games) that I actually liked enough to play all the way through.

12 had me bored after about 5 hours. I never finished it. Didn't care.

And to anyone who thinks I should give 12 another shot because it "get's good later" I don't care about that either. It's not unreasonable to expect a game to be good from the start.

 

[hedges1001]

i didnt get a ps2 till 03 and my first game for it was ff10 so im biased there. 7 for me was good not great and 12 was good but not what iwas looking for in a ff. to have a decent party you HAD to use gambits which meant you spent way longer menu hoping than you should have