"Conditions Are Tough" For Game Dev "Spies"

[KouThan]

I've got a bachelor in human geography specialising in GIS applications, remote sensing and have been trained as a satelite recon and remote sensing specialist for the Dutch armed forces and worked as that in Afghanistan for nine months.

I'd say that if I can't see a clue of a military installation on images that cover the entire island, there are no military installations worth mentioning.

Well, since there's no military bases on that island at all, none worth mentioning anyway, I think I can safely conclude that charges they say they spied on military secrets on a military base, are bullshit.

Apparently you are not really good at your job because I can inform you that Lemnos is one of the few islands of the Aegean sea that have substantial military presence. Furthermore Lemnos is actually one of the few greek islands in the Greek-Turkish borders that is allowed to have permanent military presence granted by the Treaty of Lausanne and recognized by the turkish ambassador in Greece.

There are about 12 military factions operating in the island with their own military command. There are also a number of weapons and fuel caches spread throughout the island. Of course there is very little published information about them and all most of them are covered in various ways against satellite imagery. Actually almost all of the weapons caches are carved inside mountain sides and covered with vegetation.

There is also an air force combat group operating inside the international airport that was built mainly for military purposes with funding from NATO. Also there are 2 fixed radars outside the airport.

I looked on google maps' satelite view: No blurry places, no places that may look like a military base, outside of a small distinctly civilian-looking one runway airport.

There are not burry places because most of the actual operating facilities are in places were the satellite view is extremely blurry by itself which means that there is probably a reason for having almost half of the islands satellite images with really low resolution.
For example I can show you one of the radars, but you can't make it out because the satellite image quality in the area is really bad.

Also worth mentioning is the fact that the Czech Minister for Foreign Affairs acknowledged the case and said that, although they are no spies, they are just stupid.
So apparently even the czech government acknowledges the facts and does not believe that they are political prisoners.

So I don't know the reasons that you posted all that but it looks like you have no basis for your defamation of Greece and your charges about unfair conditions, so please stop posting misleading posts that look like negative propaganda against foreign countries.

 

[Strazdas]

"Does not attempt to display any real world military installations"
Well not anymore it won't.

exactly what i was thinking.
Well arma always tried for realism (wasnt it the most realistic shooter engine?) and doing their research is definitely nice. too bad the greeks dont agree. Imagine if the island was replicated ingame, the tourism traffic there would be enough to bring greece back up

 

[KouThan]

Give some coordinates. Major strategic-sized radar dishes are a dead giveaway.

Small civilian ones or simple 'maintainance' coverage trackers however aren't. Then again, those have no strategic value and can't be spied upon.

Well go to 39.986706, 25.399854 what you see there is a covered radar under a huge spherical dome. As you can see by looking at the nearby village the image resolution is so poor that you can't even make out the houses or some of the roads.

Also as you might notice the side of the island that has really poor satellite image resolution is the side that is closer to the see facing the turkish shore. The other area with really low resolution is the area that has the highest altitude which is at the northwest of the island for obvious reasons. The only military installation that is clearly visible in the island is the 88th Signal Company and this is because it is located almost inside the city.

Also as I have said before even czech republic officials such as the Minister for Foreign Affairs and the czech ambassador in Greece make no accusations of political imprisonment and claim that it was a fault of the two men that were arrested. Czech channel report on the incident [http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct24/svet/195509-cesi-fotili-na-reckem-ostrove-hrozi-jim-obvineni-ze-spionaze/]