Confessions of a console gamer...
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and people wonder why there is such a thing as pc elitist...PurpleSky said:*read*Wrong *reads more*wrong,*reads entire thing* very wrong, I don't even know where to begin.
PC is master race.[sub]that sounded very nazi of me[/sub]
It just is, theoretically and technically and every way around,in gaming and every other way, but especially in gaming.
People that play on consoles don't know how to use computers properly, and complain.
You are like the opposite of me!
And I don't care what you say I won't ever buy a thing that will red ring of death.Actually, I don't respect any person that buys a shitty product over and over again.
*EDIT* from the first [HEADING=3]Google[/HEADING]- [sub] I doubt you(in general) know how to you use it if you aren't a pc gamer[/sub]- here's what a blog claims:
"My PC currently has a variety of games on it but I am mostly playing TF2. You see, I was, until recently, playing this on the Xbox 360 and the leap from console to PC, in this case at least, is amazing. The unlockable content is all available, the game has been patched, the community plays better and are more friendly occasionally. It was glorious. As I have said before, the master race.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1310/1391558239_217c7232ea.jpg
Top notch work as usual, google.
The Xbox version, by comparison; looks far, far worse. Glitches have spread like bacteria and multiplied, the unlockables are no where to be seen, we are left with the 5 or so maps that TF2 had when it very first came out and last and probably worst, the userbase is made up of people from Xbox live. I have it from an extremely reliable source that Xbox live kids are the same people responsible for youtube comments and yahoo answers."
Conclusion:
You can debate which of your consoles are better, but none of them surpas a Personal Computer.
seriously the amount of elitism from this is staggering. the amount of ignorance from this fanboyism just ruins cross platform relations
Yout tv doesn't have at least 2 HDMI ports?More Fun To Compute said:
I haven't seen a TV which can't take two consoles since I was.... 10, so that's 2000.
Any way OT:
I don't have a PC atm, it's dead :'( so I'm exclusively console atm, but I see where the OP is coming from. My older brother is married, has three kids, works, and is a full time uni student. Hasn't played a PC game in about 9 months if I recall.
And it was W:AR, needless to say he doesn't play anymore. No one still plays W:AR.
Anyway as I was saying, he has expressed similar feelings to the OP about PC gaming. Don't get me wrong his PC runs Cyrsis at full specs smoother than my 360 runs fallout 3, he just can't be fucked dealing with DRM, installing games, what ever other excuses he uses. He also likes to be able to sit in the lounge and play a game while his kids are playing with toys in the room, it's nicer than sitting in the study to game while they are in a different room.
I should actually thank you OP for explaining it better than he did, I think I can stop making fun of him.
As someone that owns all of the current generation consoles as well as a solid gaming PC -- and uses all of them -- there is something I have to chime in on. I concur with the OP that PC gaming can be a serious hassle. There have been nights where I've wanted to sit down and play a game with somebody and something, somewhere, just inexplicably goes wrong and spoils the evening's efforts. There are times when I really, really need to just relax and unwind and consoles seem to be able to deliver that with far greater consistency.
That said, I'm still a PC gamer anyways. Why limit myself when I can (usually) enjoy the best of both worlds?
That said, I'm still a PC gamer anyways. Why limit myself when I can (usually) enjoy the best of both worlds?
Technically the statement wasn't false.Signa said:
PC games haven't been proven to be better, or worse, than console games. So as far as we know, they aren't better.
Although you may infer that godofallu meant console games ar better, and he may well have been implying it, doesn't make his post incorrect.
Just thought I'd pull you down off your high horse back to our level.
PC Games are usually better because they can be modded, and if you've seen all the game has to show you, you can get more mods or cheat to do things in different ways easier.
I wonder how many in depth non-shooter multiplayer games appear on consoles, like strategy, epic scale space games and such. Or wide open non linear types.. Some yes but I imagine quite a bit less.
And like I said before, a controller just doesn't have the speed, accuracy, or versatility that a mouse and keyboard has. Not counting other input devices one can use with a PC.
How many shooter PC games have auto aiming? Virtually none. Why? Because when you have a mouse, you don't need that crutch. Some people get good with the controllers, sure. But overall it just doesn't compare. I have Red Dead Redemption on my PS3 and without the auto aim it feels clunky like Marston is a robot with his aiming movements. With it on, it feels like you're aim bot cheating.
A game that was designed for a console and then converted to PC you can usually easily tell by the menus alone. They feel clumsy, slow, and restrictive. Console games have more loading screens too.
Other programs are great to have on PC. Like Dropbox. I can make a mod or a map or just something nifty I'd like to show my buddies. I put a copy of the files in there and it'll upload it in the background and then their PCs will download it from there without them having to do anything.
And virtual LANs like Hamachi? It's awesome to be able to play older game that had only local area network gameplay with my friends who live far away.
This can all be summed up rather easily though. What interests you and what do you enjoy more?
I wonder how many in depth non-shooter multiplayer games appear on consoles, like strategy, epic scale space games and such. Or wide open non linear types.. Some yes but I imagine quite a bit less.
And like I said before, a controller just doesn't have the speed, accuracy, or versatility that a mouse and keyboard has. Not counting other input devices one can use with a PC.
How many shooter PC games have auto aiming? Virtually none. Why? Because when you have a mouse, you don't need that crutch. Some people get good with the controllers, sure. But overall it just doesn't compare. I have Red Dead Redemption on my PS3 and without the auto aim it feels clunky like Marston is a robot with his aiming movements. With it on, it feels like you're aim bot cheating.
A game that was designed for a console and then converted to PC you can usually easily tell by the menus alone. They feel clumsy, slow, and restrictive. Console games have more loading screens too.
Other programs are great to have on PC. Like Dropbox. I can make a mod or a map or just something nifty I'd like to show my buddies. I put a copy of the files in there and it'll upload it in the background and then their PCs will download it from there without them having to do anything.
And virtual LANs like Hamachi? It's awesome to be able to play older game that had only local area network gameplay with my friends who live far away.
This can all be summed up rather easily though. What interests you and what do you enjoy more?
I think its all about bang for your buck. I have to be mindful of such things since I did stay in school and well, these days most get paid below their worth while those who do much much much better off get paid 200x what they are worth.
Since I want the most bang for my buck consoles are a better choice. To get the graphics I get on a console for the PC I have to spend easilly 2x if not 3x as much. People say you can get a good gaming PC for 400-500 and I frankly think its a load. My new PC was about 500 and it plays SC2 at lowest res with a rare hiccup, but starts hiccuping when I start trying to tweak it up.
I have free time and while it isn't rushed I would still rather a game work than play the troubleshooting game. In addition, the idea of forking over 500 to play new software on the lowest setting rubs me wrong. At 500, it should be pretty as hell.
I have always been a pseudo-PC gamer, I liked consoles better back in the day because it had more genre variety back when the whole first person shooter scene on the PC took off. Now the tables have kind of turned and consoles rarely make anything but first person shooters and PC, well, just makes nothing.
StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3 were pretty much the reason I bothered getting a new PC. I still debate whether it was a wise decision. SC2 is good and all, but 500+60 good? For that money I could have grabbed me 10-30 other games (I buy used).
PC-elitism I think is for people who can afford it I suppose. Frankly I feel like console gaming is expensive enough really. I think we have upscaled things a bit too far, a game does not have to be 60-70$ pretty even if the hardware can do it.
Since I want the most bang for my buck consoles are a better choice. To get the graphics I get on a console for the PC I have to spend easilly 2x if not 3x as much. People say you can get a good gaming PC for 400-500 and I frankly think its a load. My new PC was about 500 and it plays SC2 at lowest res with a rare hiccup, but starts hiccuping when I start trying to tweak it up.
I have free time and while it isn't rushed I would still rather a game work than play the troubleshooting game. In addition, the idea of forking over 500 to play new software on the lowest setting rubs me wrong. At 500, it should be pretty as hell.
I have always been a pseudo-PC gamer, I liked consoles better back in the day because it had more genre variety back when the whole first person shooter scene on the PC took off. Now the tables have kind of turned and consoles rarely make anything but first person shooters and PC, well, just makes nothing.
StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3 were pretty much the reason I bothered getting a new PC. I still debate whether it was a wise decision. SC2 is good and all, but 500+60 good? For that money I could have grabbed me 10-30 other games (I buy used).
PC-elitism I think is for people who can afford it I suppose. Frankly I feel like console gaming is expensive enough really. I think we have upscaled things a bit too far, a game does not have to be 60-70$ pretty even if the hardware can do it.
Build the computer yourself, not some pre-made machine. It ends up being much cheaper, and you win in the end because you know exactly what's in it. without my monitor, my comp cost me about $550, and it runs SC2 maxed out. and many other games. (with a slight overclocking on the processor. yaaaay open multipliers) Also PC games are usually console ports of big titles, its rare for PC to get a major release and the consoles get nothing, or a port of that. But PC games also get many many many more smaller releases. You just have to look, a lot of games fly under the radar.Sillyiggy said:
I don't understand why people say, "Oh, it's such a hassle, it takes so much time," etc. etc. I don't have any of those problems. Sure, install takes a couple minutes. Guess what, you can do other things on the computer while it's installing. Browse the internet, watch some porn or read the news or something for the 10 bloody minutes it takes to install. Or, using a service like Steam, simply buy the game, tell it to download, and it'll download and install the game for you, without any need for your input beyond the initial "download this please".
Another thing I have difficulty comprehending is why console gamers settle for such low-quality rehashed tripe in many cases. For instance, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (the PC version is barely worth mentioning, since it was just a straight console dupe). Why settle for such shoddy, laggy multiplayer, over which you have very little control regarding who you face? Why settle for the restrictions placed on user actions by the inflexibility of console controllers? Why settle for the inability to enhance your gaming experience through the use of player-created mods?
Another thing I have difficulty comprehending is why console gamers settle for such low-quality rehashed tripe in many cases. For instance, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (the PC version is barely worth mentioning, since it was just a straight console dupe). Why settle for such shoddy, laggy multiplayer, over which you have very little control regarding who you face? Why settle for the restrictions placed on user actions by the inflexibility of console controllers? Why settle for the inability to enhance your gaming experience through the use of player-created mods?
No, I'm saying that staring at a computer monitor from 3 feet away like I do all day at work, and staring at a TV from 9 feet away at home are two different things. Also, I know full well how to connect my PC to my TV, but I can't be bothered with a mouse / keyboard on my couch... that would require a flat surface to play on, etc... and yes I could use the controller, but not to turn the thing on and off, change games, etc... Like I said... it's a pain in the ass to try and set it up that way, but that's the way I prefer gaming.... consoles, played from the couch, are not a pain in the ass... that's how they're designed.oplinger said:
Because we just don't care.... I get the same thing out of my games that you do.... I don't need mods or better matchmaking to get what I need out of a game. Why enhance the gaming experience when the console experience works just fine? I don't need to hack Fallout 3 and max out my guy to enjoy it... I enjoyed the normal game, for over 100 hours, no mods whatsoever. And you know, I don't have any more time to enjoy that game with mods. I've moved on to the next one.mdk31 said:
Aaaaaaactually, you can use a controller as a mouse. And you can do just about anything with the mouse these days. Turn it on and off, restart it, click icons, browse the net, open the DVD drive, draw. Just takes a bit of setup. Heck I do a lot of stuff on my computer with a PS3 controller. Not to mention you can bind all the buttons to certain keys like shift, control, the media buttons if your computer supports it. And if you're really hard up for a keyboard, windows has an annoying software keyboard just for fun.TPiddy said:
Also, i was not talking about hooking your computer up to the TV, I was talking about combining everything into an HDTV with multiple inputs. On the couch. Or recliner in my case. You can literally do anything on a computer if you look hard enough.
There is a confidence console gamers have that even someone with a £500 rig couldn't have. With a PS3, you know you can play every single game that comes out for PS3. There is no distinction, or worry about having an up to date system. If it says PS3, your PS3 can play it. Plus, the keyboard and mouse system are evil for me. I've tried for over two years now, but I won't game on the PC purely because I hate both of them.SakSak said:
Whiiiiichhh.... brings me back to my original point... if you want to jump through those hoops, go right ahead. I am perfectly happy not jumping through anything, sitting on my couch... Yes, I realize my gaming experience could be better if I worked at it... but then it becomes too much like work. My gaming experience is good enough for me the way it is, and given the small portion of my life it takes up I'm not looking to complicate it any further.oplinger said:
PleaseJaymesFogarty said:
nobody should even have to read the specs on the box
hell my friend can play stalker call of pripyat and fallout 3 on a machine with
single core amd 3500+
2 gb DDR1 400hz ram
7900GTX
you think PC gaming takes too much resources now, wait till your first one actually comes along. Right now, you might be able to squirrel away an hour or two a day. (If you're the kind of husband who helps out around the house a little, and live in a fairly low maintenance home)wgreer25 said:
Once your baby is here, you'd be lucky to get two hours a week. between a full time job, and taking care of a newborn (those 3 hour naps schedules are going to keep you tired), your hobby will probably fall VERY low on your priority list. It's just a necessity of life.
That or you could become the type of dad who lets the mom do all the work and you just spend most of your time gaming in your man cave.
You also need to figure out how you feel about letting your kid see you play games. After all, kids learn by imitation. If the kid sees you on the games all the time, guess what the kid will be doing.
he started playing with only 1gb of ram but an old machine I found had a working one gig stick that i pulled outoplinger said:Just saying, You only jump through the hoop once. Then everything is how you want it.TPiddy said:
I don't believe that. Call of Pripyat is meanjamesworkshop said:
The real point is I have never had to ever question what games my machine is capable of running or even how well they should run I have a better machine than my friend and still I can already tell that my computer is going to be capable of running games that aren't even out yet.
I can already tell for a fact that nothing in the next 2 years is going to be unplayable on my current machine, no upgrades needed