Cornwall Gets Nasty Over Devon's Pasty Prize

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A row has erupted in the south west after a pie maker in Devon was given the prize for Britain's best Cornish pasty.


The decision prompted anger among bakers in Cornwall, who said that firms from the neighbouring county should be barred from entering the competition.

An appeal to disqualify the winners, Chunk of Devon, failed. Some Cornish bakers are now threatening to boycott next year's ceremony.

Chunk was given the top prize at the inaugural British Pie Awards ceremony last week.

Matthew O'Callaghan, the chairman of the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie Association, who organised the competition, admitted that to have been eligible, pasties should have been made in Cornwall.

"There was supposed to be a disclaimer on the application form which stated all entrants to the Cornish Pasty competition must come from Cornwall," he said.

"It wasn't done and I have to admit it was an administrative cock-up."

Mr O'Callaghan said that while Chunk would keep its award because there had been an "honest mistake", next year the rules would be made much clearer.

The judges praised the Chunk pasty's taste, appearance, texture, size, pastry and local ingredients.

But, traditionalists say that to be worthy of the name, a Cornish pasty must have been made on the correct side of the River Tamar.

Ann Muller, of the Lizard Pasty Shop, said: "Why do they want to call their pasties Cornish? They're happy to call their cream teas Devonshire and we've got Cornish cream teas.

"Let them put their pasties into a competition but call it a Devonshire pasty. Don't forget where the border is."

Managing Director of Chunk, Simon Bryon-Edmond, defended his firm's right to the title, and accused Cornish rivals of complacency.

"It seems the Cornish may have got a bit podgy round the waist when it comes to pasty-making and have been relaxing and rather resting on their laurels," Mr Bryon-Edmond said.

"We were the underdogs in the competition but we know our pasty is a winner.

"All of our ingredients are free range and locally sourced, and there are no additives whatsoever. We also use butter rather than margarine.

"We like everything to be as natural as possible. The recipe is no great secret. We use the best ingredients and the best herbs and spices."

Debate over the origins of the pasty has long raged between the two counties.

In 2006 Todd Gray, a historian, discovered a shopping list written in Devon in 1510 which referred to ingredients to make pasties.

However, Les Merton, the author of the Official Encyclopedia of the Cornish Pasty, argued that cave drawings show that pasties, wrapped in leaves rather than pastry, were eaten in Cornwall as early as 8,000BC.


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nova18

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Thank you for the pasty related news.
The Escapist really is the only place for the latest in bakery :)
 

Galletea

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Yep, pasty makers are a sensitive bunch. And sore losers by the looks of things.

I don't even like cornish pasties.
 

rossatdi

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A shocking expose of the inner regional prejudices of the pasty industry. Forward Devonshire soldiers!

(Incidentally, you don't have to make French Fries in France so I fail to see their point).
 

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sorry user name taken. said:
Melton Mowbray Pork Pie Association, who organised the competition
There's the issue, these guys are really f-ing serious about pie-related geography.

And pies in general, we even have a statue/seat of a bloody pork pie outside Argos.
 

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'Les Merton, the author of the Official Encyclopedia of the Cornish Pasty'. Pasties are serious business.
 

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Fuck those Devonian bastards, Emmets to a man. Kernow for the win.

Seriously now, if it was the best pasty it was the best pasty, this can only serve to improve the quality of our pasties, a bit of outside competition is good for the industry.
 
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nova18 said:
Thank you for the pasty related news.
The Escapist really is the only place for the latest in bakery :)
it needed to be said lol

george144 said:
Best story ever.
because its true


deathninja said:
sorry user name taken. said:
Melton Mowbray Pork Pie Association, who organised the competition
There's the issue, these guys are really f-ing serious about pie-related geography.

And pies in general, we even have a statue/seat of a bloody pork pie outside Argos.
the best pastys come from cornwall and sausage rolls...~drools~
 

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rossatdi said:
A shocking expose of the inner regional prejudices of the pasty industry. Forward Devonshire soldiers!

(Incidentally, you don't have to make French Fries in France so I fail to see their point).
the thing is that Cornish pasties are a protected food like champaign and Parma ham. They can't be made outside a specific region
 

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Having relatives either side of the Cornwall/Devon border, I know exactly how serious an issue this is.

However, with most of them being in Devon, I must say, tough luck Cornwall! You obviously aren't so hot on the pasties now, eh. Shouldn't have got so complacent, thinking because they're Cornish you'll automatically win! Cor, sore losers or what?
 

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Cornwall should be ashamed if Devon can make a better pasty. See this as a wake up call.
 

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It was kind of weird reading this because my last name is Cornwall and that's where my family is from.
 

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Wow. There's more bitching and hissy-spitting over pasties than a few years ago at the Winchester Flower-arranging competition... *sigh*
 

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sethzard said:
rossatdi said:
A shocking expose of the inner regional prejudices of the pasty industry. Forward Devonshire soldiers!

(Incidentally, you don't have to make French Fries in France so I fail to see their point).
the thing is that Cornish pasties are a protected food like champaign and Parma ham. They can't be made outside a specific region
Yes...
But, you can't exactly ship cornish pasties, as you can with other protected foods. so, basically you'd end with cornish pasties with different names, savory, filled pastry casing perhaps.
although, I heard that the Italians were working on a law that said that Pizza Margherita could only be made in naples.
Edit: have since looked this up on wikipedia. It says that "Neapolitan pizza has been given the status of a "guaranteed traditional specialty" in Italy." I'm not sure if this covers location or just the recipe.

This story is hilarious though. something about the idea of an official pasty-maker governing body.