Could you kill a person?

[Hitokiri_Gensai]

Gun laws exist for the safety of not just yourself, but everyone around you. Obey them.


Could i kill someone? I suppose it ultimately depends on the situation.

In cold blood? probably not, no. I like to think of myself as an armed pacifist I belive that peace is a better solution, but i also accept and realized that sometimes, people arent given a choice to walk away.

Yes, i carry a gun, everyday, most days i even open carry (yes im legally allowed to do so). I carry because ive been at the wrong end of an attack.

My philosphy of carry is, if im drawing my weapon, its to kill. I do not shoot to wound, i do not shoot to scare, i shoot to kill. Now, that doesnt mean im a murderous ***** with a vendetta against the world. To me, my sidearm, is my last resort, it means that ive been given no other option, and ive deemed it necessary for my own survival. So could i kill someone? yes. But it would be in defense of my person or my family.

Taking a life is NEVER something that ANYONE should ever take lightly, Even if the person deserves it.

 

[kinapuffar]

A life isn't really worth anything.

Including yours?

How anybody could think that a life isn't worth anything baffles me. A life is worth everything.

Including mine.
Out of billions of sperm I was the fastest... That time.

There's nothing special about that. 6 billion others were the fastest as well. Where exactly does the mere act of being alive make me valuable?
If I don't contribute I'm a burden on the world. And personally I have no problem with that, but I can at least admit it. I can at least see that my life does nothing but put yet another drain on an already struggling society.

There's nothing wrong with that, but that's the way it is.


Have I contributed to furthering mankinds understanding of the universe, like Einstein, Witten, Kaku, Tyson, Galileo? No, I have not.

Have I contributed to making trade and traveling safer or more effecient, like Karl Benz, the Wright brothers, Watt? No, I have not.

Have I contributed to furthering or improving scientific discovery, like Tesla, Newton, Linné? No, not that either.

Have I contributed to the furthering of culture by creating art or music, like DaVinci, Mozart, or Bob Marley? Not yet anyway.


So how exactly is a random human's life any more valuable than that of your common cow? At least that produces milk and gets slaughtered for food.

Because human beings have higher thought, memories and emotions and a much much greater capacity to appreciate life than a cow, and every (or almost every) human being has a number of people close to them who will be in terrible pain for a long time if they die, particularly if they are killed by another person.

Are we seriously meant to believe you're a sociopath? You sound like you're putting it on to be edgy and controversial.

Anyway, I am pretty sure I *could* kill someone, as in am capable of it. I think the only circumstances where I *would* would be if I had to for my own survival or, I hope, for the survival of people close to me.

And where exactly is it written by God that higher thought equals higher value? Is this a universal law? Or is it just your subjective belief?
Because I'm not simply going to accept YOUR opinion that human beings are better than animals, and treat that as fact. Because it just isn't.

I'm not just putting on an act. Nor am I a sociopath. I'm just being objective.
I understand how you might confuse the two, after all it is a fairly rare quality in a human being these days.
If I can kill a deer, or a sheep, or a cow in order to survive, I can kill a human for the same reason. We all have the exact same right to life as any other animal, no more, no less.

 

[Hides His Eyes]

A life isn't really worth anything.

Including yours?

How anybody could think that a life isn't worth anything baffles me. A life is worth everything.

Including mine.
Out of billions of sperm I was the fastest... That time.

There's nothing special about that. 6 billion others were the fastest as well. Where exactly does the mere act of being alive make me valuable?
If I don't contribute I'm a burden on the world. And personally I have no problem with that, but I can at least admit it. I can at least see that my life does nothing but put yet another drain on an already struggling society.

There's nothing wrong with that, but that's the way it is.


Have I contributed to furthering mankinds understanding of the universe, like Einstein, Witten, Kaku, Tyson, Galileo? No, I have not.

Have I contributed to making trade and traveling safer or more effecient, like Karl Benz, the Wright brothers, Watt? No, I have not.

Have I contributed to furthering or improving scientific discovery, like Tesla, Newton, Linné? No, not that either.

Have I contributed to the furthering of culture by creating art or music, like DaVinci, Mozart, or Bob Marley? Not yet anyway.


So how exactly is a random human's life any more valuable than that of your common cow? At least that produces milk and gets slaughtered for food.

Because human beings have higher thought, memories and emotions and a much much greater capacity to appreciate life than a cow, and every (or almost every) human being has a number of people close to them who will be in terrible pain for a long time if they die, particularly if they are killed by another person.

Are we seriously meant to believe you're a sociopath? You sound like you're putting it on to be edgy and controversial.

Anyway, I am pretty sure I *could* kill someone, as in am capable of it. I think the only circumstances where I *would* would be if I had to for my own survival or, I hope, for the survival of people close to me.

And where exactly is it written by God that higher thought equals higher value? Is this a universal law? Or is it just your subjective belief?
Because I'm not simply going to accept YOUR opinion that human beings are better than animals, and treat that as fact. Because it just isn't.

I'm not just putting on an act. Nor am I a sociopath. I'm just being objective.
I understand how you might confuse the two, after all it is a fairly rare quality in a human being these days.
If I can kill a deer, or a sheep, or a cow in order to survive, I can kill a human for the same reason. We all have the exact same right to life as any other animal, no more, no less.

Well, higher thought equaling higher value is not "written by God", it's agreed on by humans. Yes, it's my subjective opinion. But I think you'll find it's the subjective opinion of a great many other people too. And the fact that most people agree on it is objective fact, whether you like it or not. So ignore that if you want, but you're in a minority.

Yes, on the grand scale of the universe as a whole, a human life is in all likelihood meaningless and arbitrary. But we human beings experience the universe on a small, subjective scale and to us a human life can have enormous meaning. This may be subjective but that doesn't render it invalid.

 

[kinapuffar]

A life isn't really worth anything.

Including yours?

How anybody could think that a life isn't worth anything baffles me. A life is worth everything.

Including mine.
Out of billions of sperm I was the fastest... That time.

There's nothing special about that. 6 billion others were the fastest as well. Where exactly does the mere act of being alive make me valuable?
If I don't contribute I'm a burden on the world. And personally I have no problem with that, but I can at least admit it. I can at least see that my life does nothing but put yet another drain on an already struggling society.

There's nothing wrong with that, but that's the way it is.


Have I contributed to furthering mankinds understanding of the universe, like Einstein, Witten, Kaku, Tyson, Galileo? No, I have not.

Have I contributed to making trade and traveling safer or more effecient, like Karl Benz, the Wright brothers, Watt? No, I have not.

Have I contributed to furthering or improving scientific discovery, like Tesla, Newton, Linné? No, not that either.

Have I contributed to the furthering of culture by creating art or music, like DaVinci, Mozart, or Bob Marley? Not yet anyway.


So how exactly is a random human's life any more valuable than that of your common cow? At least that produces milk and gets slaughtered for food.

Because human beings have higher thought, memories and emotions and a much much greater capacity to appreciate life than a cow, and every (or almost every) human being has a number of people close to them who will be in terrible pain for a long time if they die, particularly if they are killed by another person.

Are we seriously meant to believe you're a sociopath? You sound like you're putting it on to be edgy and controversial.

Anyway, I am pretty sure I *could* kill someone, as in am capable of it. I think the only circumstances where I *would* would be if I had to for my own survival or, I hope, for the survival of people close to me.

And where exactly is it written by God that higher thought equals higher value? Is this a universal law? Or is it just your subjective belief?
Because I'm not simply going to accept YOUR opinion that human beings are better than animals, and treat that as fact. Because it just isn't.

I'm not just putting on an act. Nor am I a sociopath. I'm just being objective.
I understand how you might confuse the two, after all it is a fairly rare quality in a human being these days.
If I can kill a deer, or a sheep, or a cow in order to survive, I can kill a human for the same reason. We all have the exact same right to life as any other animal, no more, no less.

Well, higher thought equaling higher value is not "written by God", it's agreed on by humans. Yes, it's my subjective opinion. But I think you'll find it's the subjective opinion of a great many other people too. And the fact that most people agree on it is objective fact, whether you like it or not. So ignore that if you want, but you're in a minority.

Yes, on the grand scale of the universe as a whole, a human life is in all likelihood meaningless and arbitrary. But we human beings experience the universe on a small, subjective scale and to us a human life can have enormous meaning. This may be subjective but that doesn't render it invalid.

'17 quadrillion flies can't be wrong, eat shit.'
That's basically your argument, right?

 

[Hides His Eyes]

A life isn't really worth anything.

Including yours?

How anybody could think that a life isn't worth anything baffles me. A life is worth everything.

Including mine.
Out of billions of sperm I was the fastest... That time.

There's nothing special about that. 6 billion others were the fastest as well. Where exactly does the mere act of being alive make me valuable?
If I don't contribute I'm a burden on the world. And personally I have no problem with that, but I can at least admit it. I can at least see that my life does nothing but put yet another drain on an already struggling society.

There's nothing wrong with that, but that's the way it is.


Have I contributed to furthering mankinds understanding of the universe, like Einstein, Witten, Kaku, Tyson, Galileo? No, I have not.

Have I contributed to making trade and traveling safer or more effecient, like Karl Benz, the Wright brothers, Watt? No, I have not.

Have I contributed to furthering or improving scientific discovery, like Tesla, Newton, Linné? No, not that either.

Have I contributed to the furthering of culture by creating art or music, like DaVinci, Mozart, or Bob Marley? Not yet anyway.


So how exactly is a random human's life any more valuable than that of your common cow? At least that produces milk and gets slaughtered for food.

Because human beings have higher thought, memories and emotions and a much much greater capacity to appreciate life than a cow, and every (or almost every) human being has a number of people close to them who will be in terrible pain for a long time if they die, particularly if they are killed by another person.

Are we seriously meant to believe you're a sociopath? You sound like you're putting it on to be edgy and controversial.

Anyway, I am pretty sure I *could* kill someone, as in am capable of it. I think the only circumstances where I *would* would be if I had to for my own survival or, I hope, for the survival of people close to me.

And where exactly is it written by God that higher thought equals higher value? Is this a universal law? Or is it just your subjective belief?
Because I'm not simply going to accept YOUR opinion that human beings are better than animals, and treat that as fact. Because it just isn't.

I'm not just putting on an act. Nor am I a sociopath. I'm just being objective.
I understand how you might confuse the two, after all it is a fairly rare quality in a human being these days.
If I can kill a deer, or a sheep, or a cow in order to survive, I can kill a human for the same reason. We all have the exact same right to life as any other animal, no more, no less.

Well, higher thought equaling higher value is not "written by God", it's agreed on by humans. Yes, it's my subjective opinion. But I think you'll find it's the subjective opinion of a great many other people too. And the fact that most people agree on it is objective fact, whether you like it or not. So ignore that if you want, but you're in a minority.

Yes, on the grand scale of the universe as a whole, a human life is in all likelihood meaningless and arbitrary. But we human beings experience the universe on a small, subjective scale and to us a human life can have enormous meaning. This may be subjective but that doesn't render it invalid.

'17 quadrillion flies can't be wrong, eat shit.'
That's basically your argument, right?

No, and I have no idea what you mean.

Edit: Ok, I think I see what you mean, but the point is there is no one out there apart from those flies. There is no one to disagree with us. And we experience reality on a very small, subjective scale. If someone close to me dies, it's a big deal for me. The fact that it holds no meaning in the very long run makes no difference to the way it makes me feel. Yes, all life is meaningless and arbitrary. So what?

 

[Thomas Mendoza]

i really has depend on the situation if i were to kill someone. or a tempt too