Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Review

chiatt

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Ah, I haven't played it since beta. Was really turned off by the team limits and wrote the game off.
 

Ushiromiya Battler

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Living_Brain said:
chiatt said:
I didn't notice any mention in the comments or the review about how CS:GO matches are limited to 10 players. That's quite a departure from either 1.6 or CS:S.
That's because they aren't. =f you actually knew what you were talking about then you'd know that they fixed that in the beta before release as part of two updates that were 1gb each. it's either 15 total or per team now. Plus, remember post-release support. Valve does a lot of that these days.
Do people actually use the quick match system and not the good old server browser?
One look at the server browser and you'd see servers with as many as up to 60 players on a server.

Anyways, this is exactly what I wanted.
Graphical overhaul, better balanced weapons, two new modes and a some nice new weapons.
The only thing I hate is the removal of the USP.
I used to go around headshotting people with that one.
It was my favourite weapon.
 

Sansha

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I feel like Paul couldn't have missed the point harder. CS has survived as a favorite for so long because it's a winning formula: 'Here are some guns; there are some enemies' - why fuck with it?

I've always liked CS on a casual basis - the simple 'here are some bad guys and an objective' gameplay works well, and this is little more than an upgrade on the same formula, which is why I love it for the same reason I loved CS:S - it's the same game, it looks much nicer, and there're various other upgrades, especially the new game modes,
Counter-Strike isn't meant to change, because it's inherently perfect. It's pretty mindless fun, the only skill really involved being how to shoot and not be shot. No bullshit upgrades, no ranking, no 'kill streaks' or any of that tacked-on garbage.
And if you're not a fan of that basic stuff, the game just isn't for you - but I find it a refreshing break from CoD and Battlefield.

I and millions of others are perfectly content playing the same CS games over and over than whatever new shit EA and Activision vomit up every financial quarter.
 

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Magefeanor said:
The only thing I hate is the removal of the USP.
I used to go around headshotting people with that one.
It was my favourite weapon.
the USP is still in the game. It's just now called "P2000". Otherwise, it's exactly the same weapon (minus the silencer)
 

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Bindal said:
Magefeanor said:
The only thing I hate is the removal of the USP.
I used to go around headshotting people with that one.
It was my favourite weapon.
the USP is still in the game. It's just now called "P2000". Otherwise, it's exactly the same weapon (minus the silencer)
Not the same for me...
But thanks, you reminded me of the second thing I hate. Removal of the silencer.
 

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I picked it up a couple of weeks ago. Have found a server that has just been buffed from 24 man to 30 man, always has >20 people on it, and they're nice guys. It's a great game, slightly different to CSS but in a way that makes it feel updated. The only 2 gripes i have is I want to select the T/CT skin you use again, because atm the terrorists on office are dressed as hipsters and I want the good old arctic avenger back, and secondly I want to saved loadouts to come back to the game. But i assume they'll be added wit updates, so I'm more than happy with the £10 I spent.
I've already sank about 15-20 hours into it and I imagine it will be alot more by this time next year.
 

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Magefeanor said:
Bindal said:
Magefeanor said:
The only thing I hate is the removal of the USP.
I used to go around headshotting people with that one.
It was my favourite weapon.
the USP is still in the game. It's just now called "P2000". Otherwise, it's exactly the same weapon (minus the silencer)
Not the same for me...
But thanks, you reminded me of the second thing I hate. Removal of the silencer.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I miss the silencer on the m4a1. Used to be so useful when you were the last CT left.
 

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LoathsomePete said:
and for $14.99 I think it's a pretty fair price to pay.
Pretty much the point I would have made. For that price it's good value I would say, compared with other realistic shooters anyway. Plus you just know the modding scene will be just generally awesome too.
 

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CS was never renowned for its realism.
It wasn't supposed to be realistic, and it was never popular because of it. Because it's not realistic. At least where I lived, it was popular because it was highly competitive and felt good to play with its extremely tight controls.

With this kind of game, you just don't fuck with what works. People love CS because it's CS. To change the core elements makes it a different game entirely, which is almost guaranteed to end in a shitstorm. It's why SC2 is so similar to BW, and why the C&C series turned to shit.
 

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And here's for hoping they make Zombie Mode an official mode in a later update. Zombies for the WIN!
 

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For someone who has never played Counter Strike and has played shooters like CoD (CoD4, MW2, MW3) and Halo (all of them), CS:GO is a very welcome change. I love how balanced the gameplay is, how balanced the guns are (even the irritating AWP) and how much emphasis the game has on gun skill. As this review says, you can't just run around pray and spraying, you really do you have to aim and know what you're doing to be effective with your weapons.

For me, one of the things that I really love with CS:GO is all the parts copy-pasted from Left 4 Dead (and other Valve games I imagine). One of the demolition maps is a house directly taken from a Left 4 Dead chapter (campaign 4 I think? its been a while...) which feels really nostalgic and awesome. With other games/developers, I'd say "well that is really cheap of them, why can't they just make new models to use?", but with Valve, they're using the buildings and models because they are really good buildings and models to use and no one is going to complain.

I strongly recommend CS:GO if you enjoy shooters. I play it on xbox (blah blah PC master race, stfu) and it is a lot of fun. I can't even play MW3 anymore because I get a bad taste in my mouth whenever playing CS:GO for a while. CS:GO makes other shooters look like absolute shit; which it should, Counter Strike has always been the pinnacle of FPS.
 

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Josh Strodtbeck said:
fix-the-spade said:
Josh Strodtbeck said:
yet are trying to bill it at "realistic."
Define realistic. Call of Duty sells itself as realistic as well.
"Realistic gunplay" means the guns behave realistically enough that the vast majority of moves you see in video games, including most of the ones in this video, just result in you not being able to hit anything rather than taking your game to the next level. Things like quick-scoping, shooting while jumping, firing a pistol as fast as you can click the mouse, firing long bursts (5+ rounds) from an AR or SMG (10x true for any Kalashnikov), hipfiring, walking while sniping, spinning around at the kinds of ridiculous speeds enabled by mouse aiming (I really love how gamers insist the in-game weightlessness enabled by using a mouse is "realistic"), etc should either be outright impossible or result in critical loss of accuracy.

The gun mechanics simply aren't very realistic in this game, or the vast majority of games touted as "realistic." Yes, they're more realistic than they are in Call of Duty, but that's like saying Burnout is more realistic than Super Mario Kart.
I've never seen Counter-Strike billed as 'realistic' beyond bullets killing you in a few hits. I would assume that's what the reviewer meant.

Tropicaz said:
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I miss the silencer on the m4a1. Used to be so useful when you were the last CT left.
I've heard it's being patched back in.
 

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Yeah, well you're trying to pull the argument that regenerating health somehow makes a game inferior, so yeah, I'll pass.
 

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CoD and BattleField are run and gun? My head just about exploded. I don't see how considering they are designed for consoles, they have ADS, wide cone of fire w/ rapid bloom, slow movement, slower strafe, prone for campers, the list goes on. Those games are TERRIBLE.

Run and gun did not die until the xbawks 360 came out; and CS is a twitchy oldskool arena shooter's playground. Not the other way around.

Makes me wonder where your frame of reference comes from.