Court Finds Anonymous PayPal Attacker Guilty

[CJ1145]

Ha, trapped in his parent's house. Good, he's being treated exactly like this type of person should: a spoiled, stupid little child.

So because someone stands up for what they believe in, and does some damage to a company that was acting amorally, that makes them a spoiled child? Good to know.

Er, no? He's a spoiled child because that's, in essence what Anonymous has become. A "safe" haven for a bunch of sociopathic lowlifes who get off on fucking with anyone and everything, so long as they have their supposed anonymity to hide them. Anonymous has done some good things, but even the worst people are capable of a good deed now and again.

 

[Darks63]

I'm glad to see these guys getting caught and getting charged maybe just maybe this will make it less kewl to hack, prolly not though.

 

[Ashannon Blackthorn]

I'm glad to see these guys getting caught and getting charged maybe just maybe this will make it less kewl to hack, prolly not though.

So when companies do amoral things, what should angry people do? File a complaint? Maybe get 20 or 30 friends to boycott the company? Maybe send a hurtful letter?

At least they're doing something. Peaceful actions DO NOT WORK in this day and age. Know what happened the last time someone tried a peaceful protest of corporate greed? They got marked as ultra-liberal lazy good-for-nothing scum and chased off the streets.

Actions only matter if you get through. And while $5.5 million isn't a lot to PayPal, it certainly got their attention, and drew attention to the case, and that's the right way to send a message.

I have no sympathy at all. They commit crimes they can pay the punishment. That's the difference between Anonymus and actual activists. Actual activists are willing to stand up for what they believe in and pay the cost for their actions at the time, soimetimes to the point of prison or even death.

Whenever I see these Anonymus activists get caught they whine and cry and snivel about how they weren't actually doing anything, or they have mental problems or whatever excuse.

I commend people like Gandhi, Mr. Weatherhead isn't anywhere in his league.

And if you say Gandhi's too big to be a good comparision, how about that 80 year old nun who vandalized a missile silo?

I'd be impressed if one of these Anonymus bunch did their thing, and when caught plead guilty and use it as a platform. Not say "I was just a network admin, so I'm not responsible"

 

[Mister K]

So Wall Street and big banks can rip people off for god knows how much, demand trillions in bail outs, get the trillions from us, crash the entire world economy and face NO justice. Not one big name involved in the housing/derivatives scam has spent 1 day in jail. John Corzine looted 1 billion in client funds from MF Global and is walking around scot-free. Mess with Pay Pal, and the hammer comes down. I guess "justice" is only for the little people.

The only difference is that in most cases, when people are riped off by banks, etc., said people simply don't read the damn papers they sign.
And in this particular situation, well, it's a demonstrative case I think. They need to create a legal precedent in order to deal with such cases in the future. (Sorry for my bad legal English)
As for big names walking free: BRIBES, BABE! No matter what you think of your goverment, there are always bribes. The only difference between different goverments is that somewhere it is kind of inapropriate to do (Western Europe), while in others it is a common practice (Post-Soviet countries).

 

[Mister K]

So when companies do amoral things, what should angry people do? File a complaint? Maybe get 20 or 30 friends to boycott the company? Maybe send a hurtful letter?

People! Should! Stop! Signing! The Damn! Papers! Without! Reading! Them!
Here is a thing: a contract, that was made according to law, has a power of a legal document (i.e. law) for parties which signed said document. Both parties simply MUST read each and every letter in this document BEFORE signing it. Most people read it thoroughly only AFTER shit hit the fan and then their lawyers can't do anything.

 

[Mister K]

So when companies do amoral things, what should angry people do? File a complaint? Maybe get 20 or 30 friends to boycott the company? Maybe send a hurtful letter?

People! Should! Stop! Signing! The Damn! Papers! Without! Reading! Them!
Here is a thing: a contract, that was made according to law, has a power of a legal document (i.e. law) for parties which signed said document. Both parties simply MUST read each and every letter in this document BEFORE signing it. Most people read it thoroughly only AFTER shit hit the fan and then their lawyers can't do anything.

PayPal didn't do anything that a document of their services can stop. They stopped payment from people trying to give money for legal help for Julian Assange for no reason than because the US Government told them to stop. While it is their company, and they are legally allowed to do that, it is still critically amoral.

Then blame american goverment for represions. I was more on a subject of "We iz litl humanz and big big bad companiz hurd uz" (Why pseudo WH 40K orkish?).
Wait...What Assange has to do with all of this? It is a news about a guy who hacked paypal "just for de lulz".

 

[Mister K]

They hacked PayPal because of the Assange incident. "Doing It For Lulz" was an assumption by the internet community and the press based on Anon's previous actions before this incident.

This is kind of... idiotic. The goverment orders a payment service to stop certain transactions, so they hack the service? It's as if kids stone the ice-cream truck, because their mothers told the ice-cream seller to never sell them their favorite types.

 

[Darks63]

I'm glad to see these guys getting caught and getting charged maybe just maybe this will make it less kewl to hack, prolly not though.

So when companies do amoral things, what should angry people do? File a complaint? Maybe get 20 or 30 friends to boycott the company? Maybe send a hurtful letter?

At least they're doing something. Peaceful actions DO NOT WORK in this day and age. Know what happened the last time someone tried a peaceful protest of corporate greed? They got marked as ultra-liberal lazy good-for-nothing scum and chased off the streets.

Actions only matter if you get through. And while $5.5 million isn't a lot to PayPal, it certainly got their attention, and drew attention to the case, and that's the right way to send a message.

The problem is that your assuming it was done for the sake of protest I don't buy it, its a power game they do it for the rush of doing that much damage and the media uproar that can follow. People in general are not a selfless bunch that crusade for good they do things, they do things for self interest. Does it bother me that corporation get away with stuff yes, but doing crime to counter crime isnt the right way either and it has a strong chance of getting the internet regulated with the buzz words of "lets control these CYBERTERRORISTS".

 

[Kair]

So Wall Street and big banks can rip people off for god knows how much, demand trillions in bail outs, get the trillions from us, crash the entire world economy and face NO justice. Not one big name involved in the housing/derivatives scam has spent 1 day in jail. John Corzine looted 1 billion in client funds from MF Global and is walking around scot-free. Mess with Pay Pal, and the hammer comes down. I guess "justice" is only for the little people.

I scrolled far too long before I found a post like this. Hypocrisy is abundant. It should be well known that the current legal system is not a system of justice, but a system of power. To believe anything else but sophism can exist when the unethical hold so much power is naive.

 

[King_Julian]

But one day just one day when the world is locked down and bleak as hell I can't wait for people who hated hackers to one day wish they were back and then hypocrisy comes full circle once more.

This.