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Crash486

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So I've been a fan of Tool for a long time now. Those who are familiar with the band are probably aware of the fact that most Tool fans are imbeciles. In fact, Tool hates it's fan base, and with good reason. They're all a bunch of overanalyzing music snobs who try to see meaning in the most insignificant aspects of a song. What attracts these people to Tool? Nobody really knows, but if I had to guess I'd say it probably has something to do with their fetish for weird time signatures (a defining characteristic of Tool's music).

Well recently on of my friends (also a tool fan) told me about this new easter egg track he had heard about on the 10,000 Days album. As the myth goes, if you play tracks 11+3 at the same time as track 4, the 3 tracks combine to make a resulting easter egg voltron track. Intrigued by the premise I decided to explore it. First I simply looked on youtube for people who had spliced the tracks together already. After listening to 2 of them, it was apparent that the tracks sounded slightly doctored.

I then decided I would load up all three tracks into Audacity and try to peice them together myself. After about an hour so of finagling with the allignment of the songs, I've finally reached the conclusion that these myths are of course a bullocks, and I am the victim of another elaborate Tool Fan Hoax.

While tool has a fair number of these fanfiction fabrications, they are not the only rock band to be targeted by such outrageous claims. People have been claiming there are hidden messages and easter eggs in songs for years. For example if you play stairway to heaven backwards, it supposedly at some point says "hail satan." Or if you play Dark Side of the Moon at the same time you start the wizard of oz, supposedly the album narrates the film. Obviously they're all bullocks. Their validity is in the eye of the beholder.

With so many outlandish myths floating around, I've decided to create my own. Feel free to create you own and post them here as well. Here's one I heard from the higher ups in the music conspiracy ring.

"If you play all 4 Mars Volta albums at the same time, but play the second and 4th album backwards, at exactly 6:66 (that's 7 minutes and 6 seconds) all 4 albums say, "And," at the same time."
 

SharPhoe

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I don't really pay attention when people talk about myths or secret meanings in songs, it's just them looking way - WAY - too deep into those kinds of things.
 

Crash486

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MaxTheReaper said:
...So, what you're telling me is...
"Tool fans are a bunch of tools."

Ohohohohohoh I am so hilarious.

I can't imagine why people come up with this stuff.
I'm sure no one's ever thought of that one before.

I'm guessing they come up with this stuff to fill the void in their otherwise meaningless lives that they've squandered on worshipping a band that doesn't give a damn about them.
 

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Apparently Lateralus by Tool matches up with The Nightmare Before Christmas by Tim Burton. Things I've read say that it even has characters mouthing the lyrics at some points. That said, everyone seems to disagree at what point of the opening credits to start the music.

Lateralus has dozens of rumoured things though, most prominently that there's an alternate ordering of songs which you get if you draw a spiral through the track numbers when written down in a line (I know that should be explained more clearly but then things can start to get silly).

EDIT: Although some of their fans are a bit wacky don't let that influence your view of Tool's music; they are an amazingly talented band which produces massively complex songs and albums. Aside from any deep readings of their music, lyrics and artwork (of which there are many facinating concepts) they also just kick a lot of arse!
 

ThePoodonkis

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Though I enjoy tool, I've never really tried to analyze their songs.
A friend of mine tells me what their about, the underlying symbolism, reasons for writing, et cetra. I just smile and nod most of the time. I just listen to the music for the music.
However, I do try and find the time signatures, but I do that with every song I listen to. They're no special case, just a bit more challenging.
 

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I've never been a huge fan of Tool to be honest, because beneath all the time signature changes and unusual structures lies pretty basic, bland, metal. But that's my opinion. I was into them at one stage.

But as for myths, here's one - Paul McCartney. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead]
 

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ThePoodonkis said:
Though I enjoy tool, I've never really tried to analyze their songs.
A friend of mine tells me what their about, the underlying symbolism, reasons for writing, et cetra. I just smile and nod most of the time. I just listen to the music for the music.
However, I do try and find the time signatures, but I do that with every song I listen to. They're no special case, just a bit more challenging.
Time signatures are ridiculously easy, though.
Even those people that are all 'OMG Prog-Rock is so musically intricate and chordally complex!!!!!111!!!1'

They don't know nothing.
 

vede

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I also hate it when people analyze stuff way too much.

I mean, look at the OP's avatar.

A monster in the middle of two masses of color, which are very similar to each other. He's obviously trying to speak out against discrimination based on race (the monster between the colors represents "monstrosity" between the two groups, in this case, people of one color and people of another color), because we're all pretty much the same (represented by the similarity of the colors).

ABSURDITY!

I especially hate it when crap like this happens in, say, high-school English class. "Obviously, X is a symbol that Y." and I get looked at funny when I suggest "Um, maybe X is just a plot device meant to cause turmoil?"
 

Crash486

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berethond said:
ThePoodonkis said:
Though I enjoy tool, I've never really tried to analyze their songs.
A friend of mine tells me what their about, the underlying symbolism, reasons for writing, et cetra. I just smile and nod most of the time. I just listen to the music for the music.
However, I do try and find the time signatures, but I do that with every song I listen to. They're no special case, just a bit more challenging.
Time signatures are ridiculously easy, though.
Even those people that are all 'OMG Prog-Rock is so musically intricate and chordally complex!!!!!111!!!1'

They don't know nothing.
You're obviously not a percussionist because there's nothing further from the truth. We're not talking about 4/4, 2/4, 6/8 etc. We're talking weird signatures like 9/8 and 7/8. Just try keeping time in a signature like that, let alone writing and composing a whole song in it. If you want a good example of a really crazy time signature, listen to Lateralus, particularly the bridge that begins around 5 minutes in.

MaxTheReaper said:
Crash486 said:
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I'm sure no one's ever thought of that one before.

I'm guessing they come up with this stuff to fill the void in their otherwise meaningless lives that they've squandered on worshipping a band that doesn't give a damn about them.
I know. I am unique and special and nothing I do has ever been done before.

Anyway, that is indeed possible, though in most bands' defense, it is kind of hard to care about millions of people.
As a matter of fact, I believe you can only care about 150 people or so on average.
Many bands show their appreciation for their fans. Tool almost show's contempt for theirs. Many bands will stay after shows and talk with their fans, sign autographs, go drinking, etc. Tool plays there set and gets out of dodge. I can't say I blame them. Having been to several tool concerts, I can say I feel dirty knowing I listen to the same music as some of these people.
 

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Crash486 said:
"If you play all 4 Mars Volta albums at the same time, but play the second and 4th album backwards, at exactly 6:66 (that's 7 minutes and 6 seconds) all 4 albums say, "And," at the same time."
Oh, man. I feel oddly compelled to try this. I just need to get my hands on Amputechture. (I KNOW I just spelled that wrong. :D)
 

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raemiel said:
Lateralus has dozens of rumoured things though, most prominently that there's an alternate ordering of songs which you get if you draw a spiral through the track numbers when written down in a line (I know that should be explained more clearly but then things can start to get silly).
actually the song Lateralus itself is a fibonacci sequence, which forms a spiral

here's a video clip explaining it [www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS7CZIJVxFY]

yeah there's a lot of different myths out there

i personally like the all the ones surrounding Marilyn Mason such as he was the guy from Mr Belvedere, he had a rib removed and a few others.

tho there is the good old gross out competition between Alice Cooper and Ozzy, it's probly the greatest one and EVEN after both of them have said on camera "it never happened" but ppl still say it did happen and will say both Ozzy and Alice are lying about it
 

Onyx Oblivion

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It's a myth that the awesomeness of Billy Joel and Elton John at the same concert will make the world explode with awesomeness. It'll only make the cities the tour goes to explode.

As for myths, not much of a music buff, so I haven't heard much.
 

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Broken Wings said:
I love the myth that Paris Hilton and Hannah Montanan have talent.
ROFLMAO!!!!

Anyway, I've heard that Elvis has a dry cleaner/laundry mat business in Chinatown, NYC. Gets off early on Saturdays and has the Sunday off.
 

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Every single song with lyrics played at the same time makes the sound of a crowded football stadium.
 

AkJay

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The Brown Note - play a certain note on a wind instrument and anyone hearing it will shit their pants.
 

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A common myth among the metal community is that Dave Mustaine is a drunken failure at guitar. The contrary is true in this case as Hetfield instructed Kirk Hammett, Mustaine's replacement, to follow his model on many of their earlier works. Dave has commented on this saying that Kirk was made famous on all of his leads. Most fans of Metallica shun Megadeth and miss out on a genuinely virtuosic guitar player.
 

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vdgmprgrmr said:
I also hate it when people analyze stuff way too much.

I mean, look at the OP's avatar.

A monster in the middle of two masses of color, which are very similar to each other. He's obviously trying to speak out against discrimination based on race (the monster between the colors represents "monstrosity" between the two groups, in this case, people of one color and people of another color), because we're all pretty much the same (represented by the similarity of the colors).

ABSURDITY!

I especially hate it when crap like this happens in, say, high-school English class. "Obviously, X is a symbol that Y." and I get looked at funny when I suggest "Um, maybe X is just a plot device meant to cause turmoil?"
Strangely enough, your avatar says a lot about you. The changing between the various symbols suggest that you are undecided as to how you want to be portrayed. The orange symbol represents your past, which you have strong links to, and the at symbol shows that you are progressive and you embrace modern life. The radioactive symbol shows you are dangerous, and tries to warn people of you, because you are afraid of hurting them. The fourth symbol then represents your secretive sign, it is not a well known one, which shows you don't want to, or feel you aren't easily understood.

It's strange how just one small thing can show a stranger so much about the real you.....
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
...So, what you're telling me is...
"Tool fans are a bunch of tools."

Ohohohohohoh I am so hilarious.

I can't imagine why people come up with this stuff.
*sigh* You beat me to it again...
 

Berethond

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Crash486 said:
berethond said:
ThePoodonkis said:
Though I enjoy tool, I've never really tried to analyze their songs.
A friend of mine tells me what their about, the underlying symbolism, reasons for writing, et cetra. I just smile and nod most of the time. I just listen to the music for the music.
However, I do try and find the time signatures, but I do that with every song I listen to. They're no special case, just a bit more challenging.
Time signatures are ridiculously easy, though.
Even those people that are all 'OMG Prog-Rock is so musically intricate and chordally complex!!!!!111!!!1'

They don't know nothing.
You're obviously not a percussionist because there's nothing further from the truth. We're not talking about 4/4, 2/4, 6/8 etc. We're talking weird signatures like 9/8 and 7/8. Just try keeping time in a signature like that, let alone writing and composing a whole song in it. If you want a good example of a really crazy time signature, listen to Lateralus, particularly the bridge that begins around 5 minutes in.
Actually, I am a percussionist. And I am currently playing a song in 12/8 that has a single measure of 15/8 followed by a 6/8 and then a 9/8.
I have also played a song in the past that was in 9/8, with a single measure of 7/8 thrown in just for fun.
And I'm going to go listen to Lateralus right now.
We shall see.