Creators need to know when to stop!

[BlindMessiah94]

So this past decade we have been victim to the decade of the reboots. Almost every novel, comic, pre 90's tv show or movie, has now been remade or is being remade or in cases like Indiana Jones is being tacked on with more sequels even after resolutions to storylines have been achieved.

Granted we all have the choice to "not see" these movies, and some of these movies may even be better than their past counterparsts (ie- the new Batman movies) but I am just getting sick of it to a certain degree. When a show has an end in mind, and knows where it is going, without trying to "keep things open" for ad infinitum sequels and revamps, I have personally tended to enjoy them much more. It seems a series' reputation can guarantee it's sales, so screw trying to create something that has an end in mind - let's just keep at it until it stops making us money.

Thoughts?

 

[ma55ter_fett]

Its all about the money... follow the money and at the end of the rainbow you will find a little man dressed in green who lost all his gold in the houseing market.

 

[FranzTyphid]

I actually rather liked Indianna Jones:3

 

[Binerexis]

I quite agree with you, I like it when something actually 'ends'. Yes, I may sit back after the film and say that I want more but unless the 'more' is absolute gold, I'm just going to end up disappointed.

Yahtzee put it quite well in one of his videos. What the hell are future generations going to think of all these remakes? They're probably going to think that we all suffered from a horrible case of amnesia and decided to re-write pieces of history.

 

[David Bray]

Its all about the money... follow the money and at the end of the rainbow you will find a little man dressed in green who lost all his gold in the houseing market.[/quote

Yup. It's all money. Sometimes it will bring joy as with the Batman films or Star Trek but most times it will bring sadness and formulaic writing. Yet we will continue to watch because, despite our better knowledge, a new take will always be interesting.
Will the A-Team be good? Will Spiderman - Retcon be good? We can only wait and see.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

At least they are leaving the Cowboy Bebop franchise alone... what?!... Keanu Reeves as Spike?

 

[gim73]

I don't know, they put out some decent stuff that needed a movie adaption like 300 and Watchmen.

Sometimes remakes are better than the original. Sometimes we don't need a reboot (spiderman/hulk). I would much rather watch the remake of Star Trek than Twillight, but that is just because I value my sanity and liked the new movie.

 

[Motiv_]

Take a look at Halo, or Call of Duty, or Guitar Hero.

Guitar Hero 1, 2, 3, Classic, World Tour, Metallica, DJ Hero, and I'm sure there are others I couldn't bother to care about.

Halo 1, 2, 3, alternate time paradox spinoff, RTS spinoff, and now an official Prequel to the first game.

Call of Duty 1, 2, Alternate Call of Duty 2 [AKA Big Red One], 3, Modern Warfare, World At War, Modern Warfare 2.

Pretty much, the mind of game companies nowadays is..

Why should we even bother with a new IP? People buy the same old recycled shit year after year anyway, and new IPs are expensive and time consuming to make.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

I'm probably going to get some flack for saying this, but I think Joss Whedon is one of the biggest culprits of not knowing when to stop. He doesn't make sequels to no end or anything and I don't think he's doing it "for the money" but I found both Buffy and Angel to get very stale in the last 2 seasons. I can only imagine what Firefly would've been like if it had gone on for 5 seasons. Granted I would've loved to see a complete season of it, but still, the Serenity movie tied up most everything and I doubt we would've got that unless the series had been canned.
He tends to love putting his characters through huge character changes (which I love) but then once they've all changed it's like...Ok....what do we do now? Firefly may have become a steaming pile of horse manure and wouldn't be the show we all love so much.

 

[HardRockSamurai]

To be fair, creators don't need to stop making reboots, they just need to stop making so many. This decade has had the most movie remakes than any other decade in movie history, largely due to the improvement of independent film-making technology and the lack of creativity that has struck our movie companies as of late.

Not all remakes are bad, hell, some are so good they transcend common movie fare and become pieces of auteur mastery (Sam Raimi's Spiderman, Christopher Nolan's Batman, and Werner Herzog's Bad Lieutenant are good examples of this.) People don't need to stop remaking things, they just need to stop making shitty ones.

 

[tomtom94]

On the other hand, some excellent things end on cliffhangers but deserve more.
*cough Red Dwarf cough*

But yes. The sequel or remake old shit mindset is getting stale, but as long as people continue to pay money for it...

 

[Sephychu]

On the other hand, some excellent things end on cliffhangers but deserve more.
*cough Red Dwarf cough*

I heartily agree.

 

[FISHFINGERS]

There is plenty of new stuff out there, but it feels like it's getting harder to find.

On the other hand, some excellent things end on cliffhangers but deserve more.
*cough Red Dwarf cough*

I heartily agree.

Personally I don't think so, to me "Red Dwarf back To Earth" was a bit of a disappointment and to be honest they should have ended the show after series 7.

 

[Jonny49]

To be fair, creators don't need to stop making reboots, they just need to stop making so many. This decade has had the most movie remakes than any other decade in movie history, largely due to the improvement of independent film-making technology and the lack of creativity that has struck our movie companies as of late.

Not all remakes are bad, hell, some are so good they transcend common movie fare and become pieces of auteur mastery (Sam Raimi's Spiderman, Christopher Nolan's Batman, and Werner Herzog's Bad Lieutenant are good examples of this.) People don't need to stop remaking things, they just need to stop making shitty ones.

You hit the nail right on the head. There's nothing wrong in remaking something, as long as it's done well. It can't just be the exact same film, it needs to make the enough change so it can on it's own two feet but it still needs to respect the original (like Zack Snyder's remake of Dawn of the Dead).

 

[rockingnic]

Take a look at Halo, or Call of Duty, or Guitar Hero.

Guitar Hero 1, 2, 3, Classic, World Tour, Metallica, DJ Hero, and I'm sure there are others I couldn't bother to care about.

Halo 1, 2, 3, alternate time paradox spinoff, RTS spinoff, and now an official Prequel to the first game.

Call of Duty 1, 2, Alternate Call of Duty 2 [AKA Big Red One], 3, Modern Warfare, World At War, Modern Warfare 2.

Pretty much, the mind of game companies nowadays is..

Why should we even bother with a new IP? People buy the same old recycled shit year after year anyway, and new IPs are expensive and time consuming to make.

There's really nothing wrong with those IPs, they just need to improve on some minor parts but you can add to those IPs instead of creating a new one. There's alot of games that need a completely new IP but never got a sequel and that's probably why too. I actually hope they don't change the IPs of Halo, CoD (MW mainly), and GH (hope they actually change the "style" with the over sized jaw bone character creator).

 

[Sephychu]

There is plenty of new stuff out there, but it feels like it's getting harder to find.

On the other hand, some excellent things end on cliffhangers but deserve more.
*cough Red Dwarf cough*

I heartily agree.

Personally I don't think so, to me "Red Dwarf back To Earth" was a bit of a disappointment and to be honest they should have ended the show after series 7.

Your counter-argument makes sense.

 

[WINDOWCLEAN2]

Other creators however need to know when to speed up!

H-L3
Conkers even badder fur day.
SW Battlefront 3

Anyone of these in the next 3 years and I will be forever satisfied

 

[BlindMessiah94]

Other creators however need to know when to speed up!

H-L3
Conkers even badder fur day.
SW Battlefront 3

Anyone of these in the next 3 years and I will be forever satisfied

Or how about Starcraft 2? I think that wins the award for "Hurry the frak up already"

 

[Caligulove]

it's where the moneys at, man!

But sequels always abound because things have changed with the blockbuster movies and other types of film.
At the same time, the sequel is not always a bad thing- there are a lot of movies where the sequel was better than the first. It just doesn't fit every genre or every story to have more and more plot tacked onto it. What's worse are those open-endings that make you realize theres another one... sometimes I want closure!

At some point there will have to be new ideas, though. The well is only so deep for transferring other media to film. The deepest of which being novels. Which aren't always a bad idea I will admit. Have yielded some good films