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Dahni

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Basically, me and my best friends have this hanger-on, also called Emma, but to save confusion, I'll call her L.

two and a half years ago, me and Emma were part of a big group of friends. so was L. at this point she wasnt creepy. she was just a little more quiet than everyone else but still contributed something to the group. But all of a sudden, L disappears. Doesn't say anything to anyone. Just disappears. For a full two years, she doesn't contact anyone from school. Then in August at the start of our 5th year, here she is. She turns up and finds our group in ruins. Me & emma have seperated off to form our own little four person group. Me, Emma, Robert and Ross & it was this way for a year or so before L came back. L comes back, the old group no longer exists, so she starts following me and Emma around. She sort of thought that since we were her friends before, we'd be her best friends now. This is not the case. She doesn't contribute anything. She doesn't talk, she doesn't come out when we invite her to places, nothing. At lunch she sits quietly eating her lunch, we ask her questions and we get one word answers or she'll repeat an answer someone else already gave. When the bell rings at the end of lunch, she will stand and wait, staring at me and emma, waiting for us to move. She'll follow us to our class then go to hers. Her teachers don't ever mark her as late, even if she comes in halfway through class. She has 100% attendance but when she gets bored, she phones her mum and goes home. She refuses to do essays, especially for homework, and teachers don't bat an eyelid. She hasn't sat a single NAB and for those of you who don't know what they are, you basically need to pass all three of them for each subject to be able to sit the final higher exam.

From the start of August until now, we've continually tried to help her make the effort to actually be our friend but she never responds. She's a hanger-on and nothing more. We want to try talk to her about it but she might do what she did to another group she latched onto a week into 5th year. She accused them of being bullies and moved on to us. How can we tell her to make an effort to be our friend or to leave us alone?

tl;dr - ex-friend won't leave us alone. doesn't even try to be our friend. we've put up with this for about 5 months now. how can we get her to leave us alone without invoking an accusation of bullying?
 

Katherine Kerensky

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Sounds like something traumatic happened to her.
I'm not sure how you could broach the subject with her...
maybe just try and draw her out a bit, ask about her interests and such.

Edit: And kinda what LordCuthberton said
 

BonsaiK

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LordCuthberton said:
I would go to the "Relationship thread".
It's okay, I'm reading. ;) Not really a "relationship problem" though so I'll answer it here instead.

Dahni said:
Basically, me and my best friends have this hanger-on, also called Emma, but to save confusion, I'll call her L.

two and a half years ago, me and Emma were part of a big group of friends. so was L. at this point she wasnt creepy. she was just a little more quiet than everyone else but still contributed something to the group. But all of a sudden, L disappears. Doesn't say anything to anyone. Just disappears. For a full two years, she doesn't contact anyone from school. Then in August at the start of our 5th year, here she is. She turns up and finds our group in ruins. Me & emma have seperated off to form our own little four person group. Me, Emma, Robert and Ross & it was this way for a year or so before L came back. L comes back, the old group no longer exists, so she starts following me and Emma around. She sort of thought that since we were her friends before, we'd be her best friends now. This is not the case. She doesn't contribute anything. She doesn't talk, she doesn't come out when we invite her to places, nothing. At lunch she sits quietly eating her lunch, we ask her questions and we get one word answers or she'll repeat an answer someone else already gave. When the bell rings at the end of lunch, she will stand and wait, staring at me and emma, waiting for us to move. She'll follow us to our class then go to hers. Her teachers don't ever mark her as late, even if she comes in halfway through class. She has 100% attendance but when she gets bored, she phones her mum and goes home. She refuses to do essays, especially for homework, and teachers don't bat an eyelid. She hasn't sat a single NAB and for those of you who don't know what they are, you basically need to pass all three of them for each subject to be able to sit the final higher exam.

From the start of August until now, we've continually tried to help her make the effort to actually be our friend but she never responds. She's a hanger-on and nothing more. We want to try talk to her about it but she might do what she did to another group she latched onto a week into 5th year. She accused them of being bullies and moved on to us. How can we tell her to make an effort to be our friend or to leave us alone?

tl;dr - ex-friend won't leave us alone. doesn't even try to be our friend. we've put up with this for about 5 months now. how can we get her to leave us alone without invoking an accusation of bullying?
Has anyone actually SPOKEN to L about the issue? How about you (privately) sit down with her and have a chat about it? Ask her why she hangs around with you when she doesn't interact. Be polite and friendly, yet cautious and respectful. Sounds to me here like something else is going on underneath the surface, maybe something very private.
 

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You sound like you've fallen into the twilight zone.
Dahni said:
She'll follow us to our class then go to hers. Her teachers don't ever mark her as late, even if she comes in halfway through class. She has 100% attendance but when she gets bored, she phones her mum and goes home. She refuses to do essays, especially for homework, and teachers don't bat an eyelid. She hasn't sat a single NAB and for those of you who don't know what they are, you basically need to pass all three of them for each subject to be able to sit the final higher exam.
Theory:

Perhaps she went away for a few years to a special camp where she learned telepathy. She spends her time rifling through your memories of her and others. She discerns that you're uncomfortable with her and she enjoys hearing your mind squirm. She also controls the teachers; making them mark her as present, and give her good grades on the testy thingys.

Makes perfect sense and it answers all the questions.

try this. Look strait at her, and rick roll her. Hear the song in your mind as loud as you can. If she laughs. You've got a telepath on your hands.
 

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There's probably something there that you don't know about. A reason her teachers don't do anything and a reason she doesn't sit exams. The girl probably has bad issues at home or some other disturbance than is well known by staff, but not you.

Have you tried outright ignoring her presence?
 

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BonsaiK said:
Has anyone actually SPOKEN to L about the issue? How about you (provately) sit down with her and have a chat about it? Ask her why she hangs around with you when she doesn't interact. Be polite and friendly, yet cautious and respectful. Sounds to me here like something else is going on underneath the surface, maybe something very private.
This answer semes to be the most reasonable, it seem slike somthing bad has happened to her dome time, if she keeps acting weird may i suggest a doctor, regualr or phsyciatrist to talk to her about it, or if your school has one, a counsellor. I wouldnt ignore this person, she may... you know... commit suicide... which would not be good for anyone.
 

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Like everyone else has said, it sounds like theres something else going on with her, you need to sit down with her and talk to her about the issues you're having, be sure to let her know that you're there to talk to and to help if she ever needs it, it might take a while but she might eventually open up a bit, no one just dissapears for two years for no reason, so something obviously happened that affected her
 

BonsaiK

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LordCuthberton said:
BonsaiK said:
LordCuthberton said:
I would go to the "Relationship thread".
It's okay, I'm reading. ;) Not really a "relationship problem" though so I'll answer it here instead.
Fair enough, I thought it would be best if they spoke to you and your expierence than the many other users who input flawed advice!
Thanks for your vote of confidence. I try to give advice that doesn't suck. Hopefully most of the time that holds true.
 

Dahni

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BonsaiK said:
LordCuthberton said:
I would go to the "Relationship thread".
It's okay, I'm reading. ;) Not really a "relationship problem" though so I'll answer it here instead.

Dahni said:
Basically, me and my best friends have this hanger-on, also called Emma, but to save confusion, I'll call her L.

two and a half years ago, me and Emma were part of a big group of friends. so was L. at this point she wasnt creepy. she was just a little more quiet than everyone else but still contributed something to the group. But all of a sudden, L disappears. Doesn't say anything to anyone. Just disappears. For a full two years, she doesn't contact anyone from school. Then in August at the start of our 5th year, here she is. She turns up and finds our group in ruins. Me & emma have seperated off to form our own little four person group. Me, Emma, Robert and Ross & it was this way for a year or so before L came back. L comes back, the old group no longer exists, so she starts following me and Emma around. She sort of thought that since we were her friends before, we'd be her best friends now. This is not the case. She doesn't contribute anything. She doesn't talk, she doesn't come out when we invite her to places, nothing. At lunch she sits quietly eating her lunch, we ask her questions and we get one word answers or she'll repeat an answer someone else already gave. When the bell rings at the end of lunch, she will stand and wait, staring at me and emma, waiting for us to move. She'll follow us to our class then go to hers. Her teachers don't ever mark her as late, even if she comes in halfway through class. She has 100% attendance but when she gets bored, she phones her mum and goes home. She refuses to do essays, especially for homework, and teachers don't bat an eyelid. She hasn't sat a single NAB and for those of you who don't know what they are, you basically need to pass all three of them for each subject to be able to sit the final higher exam.

From the start of August until now, we've continually tried to help her make the effort to actually be our friend but she never responds. She's a hanger-on and nothing more. We want to try talk to her about it but she might do what she did to another group she latched onto a week into 5th year. She accused them of being bullies and moved on to us. How can we tell her to make an effort to be our friend or to leave us alone?

tl;dr - ex-friend won't leave us alone. doesn't even try to be our friend. we've put up with this for about 5 months now. how can we get her to leave us alone without invoking an accusation of bullying?
Has anyone actually SPOKEN to L about the issue? How about you (privately) sit down with her and have a chat about it? Ask her why she hangs around with you when she doesn't interact. Be polite and friendly, yet cautious and respectful. Sounds to me here like something else is going on underneath the surface, maybe something very private.

yes we have, we invited her over to my house and for once she actually came out.
we asked her why she was away for so long, she said she wasn't well and got tutors and stuff.
which we thought was fair enough.
But her doctor told her she was perfectly fine now and was capable of coming to school. She told us this but not the school. So she uses this as an excuse for everything.
teachers tell her to wear proper trousers, she replies "my legs are too thin for anything else" & that's it.
they tell her to stop being late for school, she complains to her guidance teacher who gives them a thrashing.

Her family are very well off, every year they're all over the world, first class flights and everything. She gets everything she wants.
But she's also a compulsive liar. She told us she had a boyfriend. First he was 17. then he was 18. then he was 19.
First he lived in a very rich area of our town with his brothers, then he lived in the city. But she's only ever mentioned the fact that he moved out of his parent's house up north to live nearer to her.

She was always closer to Emma, than me, so Emma tried talking to her alone and still nothing.

It reduces Emma to tears because it drives her totally insane. Me and Emma can no longer be as open with each other because she's there listening to all our conversations.
 

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So she is shy and nervous and hasn't found her feet at school yet. If you must bin her, try not to be jerks about it.

And what happened in the missing two years?
 

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Sounds like someone had a mental breakdown and is trying to come back to grips with social interactions, to be honest.
 

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Dahni said:
BonsaiK said:
Has anyone actually SPOKEN to L about the issue? How about you (privately) sit down with her and have a chat about it? Ask her why she hangs around with you when she doesn't interact. Be polite and friendly, yet cautious and respectful. Sounds to me here like something else is going on underneath the surface, maybe something very private.

yes we have, we invited her over to my house and for once she actually came out.
we asked her why she was away for so long, she said she wasn't well and got tutors and stuff.
which we thought was fair enough.
But her doctor told her she was perfectly fine now and was capable of coming to school. She told us this but not the school. So she uses this as an excuse for everything.
teachers tell her to wear proper trousers, she replies "my legs are too thin for anything else" & that's it.
they tell her to stop being late for school, she complains to her guidance teacher who gives them a thrashing.

Her family are very well off, every year they're all over the world, first class flights and everything. She gets everything she wants.
But she's also a compulsive liar. She told us she had a boyfriend. First he was 17. then he was 18. then he was 19.
First he lived in a very rich area of our town with his brothers, then he lived in the city. But she's only ever mentioned the fact that he moved out of his parent's house up north to live nearer to her.

She was always closer to Emma, than me, so Emma tried talking to her alone and still nothing.

It reduces Emma to tears because it drives her totally insane. Me and Emma can no longer be as open with each other because she's there listening to all our conversations.
You still haven't really discussed the issue with her. The issue isn't why she went away for so long, or what her family situation is. The issue is her behaviour, and how it's affecting you. You need to sit down with her and discuss that with her, find out why she does it, and make sure she understands how this affects you, and that she is not to do it. That doesn't mean you can't be sympathetic of course, but nor should you sacrifice big chunks of your life for her.
 

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Dude, I kinda know what you're talking about. I have this friend who use to be a part of a group of friends, but back then he wasn't awkward, last year we grew apart or should I say I and all my friends grew apart from HIM. But he doesn't accept that, no matter how much we tell him to "f" off he just goes away and comes back.Its gotten to a point where it's almost like I'm dreading to go to school because of his awkwardness, like he's not a bad guy but he just didn't "grow up" when everyone else did, like there's me and my friends all relatively tall deep voices all that then theres him small, squeaky voice, cocky attitude, I'm not saying that's why but it's definitely a contributing factor along with the fact that if you show him any kindness he will cling on to you and his innocence. It has actually gotten to a point where yesterday at school while he was talking to me I put my hands around his neck!
 

Dahni

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Valksy said:
So she is shy and nervous and hasn't found her feet at school yet. If you must bin her, try not to be jerks about it.

And what happened in the missing two years?
5 months she's been following us around, compulsively lying. Yes she's shy and nervous but me and emma have done EVERYTHING we can to make her feel comfy, from toning down how we act, to trying to involve her in every conversation, waiting on her after class, walking home with her, and she still makes no effort whatsoever to be our friend. We want to be friends with her but after 5 months of trying, we're wanting to give up cus we've got exams in just over a month and we don't need the added stress.

She said she wasn't well during the missing two.
No idea what it was, but aye.
 

Dahni

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BonsaiK said:
Dahni said:
BonsaiK said:
Has anyone actually SPOKEN to L about the issue? How about you (privately) sit down with her and have a chat about it? Ask her why she hangs around with you when she doesn't interact. Be polite and friendly, yet cautious and respectful. Sounds to me here like something else is going on underneath the surface, maybe something very private.

yes we have, we invited her over to my house and for once she actually came out.
we asked her why she was away for so long, she said she wasn't well and got tutors and stuff.
which we thought was fair enough.
But her doctor told her she was perfectly fine now and was capable of coming to school. She told us this but not the school. So she uses this as an excuse for everything.
teachers tell her to wear proper trousers, she replies "my legs are too thin for anything else" & that's it.
they tell her to stop being late for school, she complains to her guidance teacher who gives them a thrashing.

Her family are very well off, every year they're all over the world, first class flights and everything. She gets everything she wants.
But she's also a compulsive liar. She told us she had a boyfriend. First he was 17. then he was 18. then he was 19.
First he lived in a very rich area of our town with his brothers, then he lived in the city. But she's only ever mentioned the fact that he moved out of his parent's house up north to live nearer to her.

She was always closer to Emma, than me, so Emma tried talking to her alone and still nothing.

It reduces Emma to tears because it drives her totally insane. Me and Emma can no longer be as open with each other because she's there listening to all our conversations.
You still haven't really discussed the issue with her. The issue isn't why she went away for so long, or what her family situation is. The issue is her behaviour, and how it's affecting you. You need to sit down with her and discuss that with her, find out why she does it, and make sure she understands how this affects you, and that she is not to do it. That doesn't mean you can't be sympathetic of course, but nor should you sacrifice big chunks of your life for her.
it's difficult to talk to her about it because she gets bitchy.
Would it make any difference if I wrote a letter out about all this and gave it to my guidance teacher? he could probably help us sort all this crap out....
 

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Dahni said:
BonsaiK said:
You still haven't really discussed the issue with her. The issue isn't why she went away for so long, or what her family situation is. The issue is her behaviour, and how it's affecting you. You need to sit down with her and discuss that with her, find out why she does it, and make sure she understands how this affects you, and that she is not to do it. That doesn't mean you can't be sympathetic of course, but nor should you sacrifice big chunks of your life for her.
it's difficult to talk to her about it because she gets bitchy.
Would it make any difference if I wrote a letter out about all this and gave it to my guidance teacher? he could probably help us sort all this crap out....
Sounds like she doesn't want to talk about it. No doubt there's a reason for that.

Writing a letter to your guidance teacher might work if he's not an asshole. Going to see him/her might work even better, but make sure whatever method you choose that you're able to articulate your concerns very precisely without leaving out anything important. You don't want to accidentally come off like you're just being a snobby prick, you want your guidance teacher to know that you do actually care about this person's welfare.
 

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I can sum up this thread in about 3 seconds, confront it all we can do is speculate and take random stabs in the dark asking on the internet is an awful, awful idea. Your on the right idea track if your school has a councellor it's probably worth bringing it up, or sit her down yourself and tell her as a friend your concerned.
 

Valksy

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Something about her behaviour does seem hinkey and I would be looking in the general direction of some sort of mental health issue. That said, it is certainly not up to you to try and deal with it. Communicating with the guidance councillor is one idea - if you have ever had any contact with her folks, that is another. Seems like something has gone on with her and you have neither the tools nor the duty to cope and you are entitled to focus on yourself in your upcoming schooling.

If push comes to shove, ask your folks to communicate with her folks. Take yourself out of the picture. Seems to me like you want rid of her and are worried about doing something potentially triggering or dangerous and her folks have the duty to deal with her problems safely.
 

Distorted Stu

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oh ive had this before! Its liek an attention call. She either hates you or wants to be your friend but is scared of the social interaction. Thats from my experience anyway. You are just best of talkign to her about it.