Critical Miss: Children of Steam #2

Isaac The Grape

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Souplex said:
You are aware that PC game sales make up like 7% of the market right?
PC gamers are what I refer to as a "Megaphone minority" a group that despite not reflecting a majority seems like they are bigger than they are by how loud and obnoxious they are.
Wow.

Insert foot in mouth.

OT: First comic that has actually made me want to keep reading this comic.
 

LGC Pominator

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I, of the console gaming crowd will be happily unaffected by this, I used to play on PC mind you, however an incident of extreme elitism that saw me getting ostracised from my clan pretty much killed PC gaming for me.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, it is PC gamers that are killing PC gaming because they are the ones that drive away the audience.

You know in 6 years of being an XBox Live Gold member, I haven't ever come across the "drunken frat boy" groups that apparently define it, nor being a long time halo fanatic, have I had to encounter the "screaming 12 year old" demographic that apparently make halo such an awful game to play.
Why? Because I game with the friends I make on XBL in party chat, those sorts of people are a rarity, they don't join our parties because they are invite only, someone wants to join in because we are kicking ass, then they message us, but we never have problems with the sort of sweary, shouty, screamy sorts that XBL is accused of being made up of.

And before I am told that it is because I probably don't play enough games to have run in to those sorts of people, my GS is 61,643. Sixty One Thousand, with 153 games played, I certainly have enough experience of XBL to know that the accusations levelled against our online community are false.

Now how does this relate to the comic?

Simply: The IGN guys, no one (in my experience) in the console fandom behaves or talks like that, and, if I may reiterate, halo is the single franchise I play the Most, so that always annoys the hell out of me.

If steam were turned off, and PC gamers were forced to experience different things then that might actually broaden peoples horizons.

Apart from that small issue, I think you guys do an awesome comic and I am looking towards the next issue!
 

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LGC Pominator said:
I, of the console gaming crowd will be happily unaffected by this, I used to play on PC mind you, however an incident of extreme elitism that saw me getting ostracised from my clan pretty much killed PC gaming for me.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, it is PC gamers that are killing PC gaming because they are the ones that drive away the audience.

You know in 6 years of being an XBox Live Gold member, I haven't ever come across the "drunken frat boy" groups that apparently define it, nor being a long time halo fanatic, have I had to encounter the "screaming 12 year old" demographic that apparently make halo such an awful game to play.
Why? Because I game with the friends I make on XBL in party chat, those sorts of people are a rarity, they don't join our parties because they are invite only, someone wants to join in because we are kicking ass, then they message us, but we never have problems with the sort of sweary, shouty, screamy sorts that XBL is accused of being made up of.

And before I am told that it is because I probably don't play enough games to have run in to those sorts of people, my GS is 61,643. Sixty One Thousand, with 153 games played, I certainly have enough experience of XBL to know that the accusations levelled against our online community are false.

Now how does this relate to the comic?

Simply: The IGN guys, no one (in my experience) in the console fandom behaves or talks like that, and, if I may reiterate, halo is the single franchise I play the Most, so that always annoys the hell out of me.

If steam were turned off, and PC gamers were forced to experience different things then that might actually broaden peoples horizons.

Apart from that small issue, I think you guys do an awesome comic and I am looking towards the next issue!
(sigh...)
 

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LGC Pominator said:
I, of the console gaming crowd will be happily unaffected by this, I used to play on PC mind you, however an incident of extreme elitism that saw me getting ostracised from my clan pretty much killed PC gaming for me.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, it is PC gamers that are killing PC gaming because they are the ones that drive away the audience.
Okay, so you basically left a platform because... of something the community said? Why should other people's opinion change your practice? Do you game for fun, or for the privilege of saying you're part of a community that is not elitist? Have you ever been to a XBox 360 vs PS3 flame thread? Did it kill off console gaming for you? And generalizing the whole PC gamer's market under the 'elitist' hallmark (and saying it's killing the platform) is any better than generalizing console gamers as snotty 14-year-olds is better... how?

And of course, it's the PC gamers' fault that back in the days when the XBox came out, retailers started a trend of not keeping PC titles in stock and devs started to make shitty PC ports helping to 'kill off' PC gaming. And for your kind information, PC gaming is not dying, thanks a whole lot to Steam.
 

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I, of the console...
I have a very diverse close circle of friends coming from all walks of gaming, be it console, pc, MMOs, casual, etc. And we all understand each other. Never has anyone tried to divide ourselves into our respective platforms. No one is a pc gamer or a console gamer, we should just be gamers. When someone or a community is a jerk to you, it's not because of the platform that they game on, it's just because they are jerks period. These people are not just destroying pc gaming, they're destroying gaming as whole.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
LGC Pominator said:
I, of the console gaming crowd will be happily unaffected by this, I used to play on PC mind you, however an incident of extreme elitism that saw me getting ostracised from my clan pretty much killed PC gaming for me.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, it is PC gamers that are killing PC gaming because they are the ones that drive away the audience.
Okay, so you basically left a platform because... of something the community said? Why should other people's opinion change your practice? Do you game for fun, or for the privilege of saying you're part of a community that is not elitist? Have you ever been to a XBox 360 vs PS3 flame thread? Did it kill off console gaming for you? And generalizing the whole PC gamer's market under the 'elitist' hallmark (and saying it's killing the platform) is any better than generalizing console gamers as snotty 14-year-olds is better... how?

And of course, it's the PC gamers' fault that back in the days when the XBox came out, retailers started a trend of not keeping PC titles in stock and devs started to make shitty PC ports helping to 'kill off' PC gaming. And for your kind information, PC gaming is not dying, thanks a whole lot to Steam.
No I left because I was kicked out of my clan when they found out (on IRC) that I had played Halo, no matter what I said, from that point on I was not a true gamer, it then turned out that everyone else in our clan who was at the midnight launch of Halo 2 was kicked out too, that is what killed PC gaming for me, It isn't that I would generalise the whole PC market as elitists, rather, I simply didn't feel the same passion for Pc gaming after that point, and it was the elitism that mainly ruined it for me.

I don't feel any antipathy towards the main PC crowd, but at the same time I hate being referred to as some sort of Drunken frat boy whenever I am on this site (and others) simply because I play halo and don't enjoy PC gaming as much, I am English for christs sake, I don't even know what a frat is! (however the drunken 20 year old part kinda fits the bill )
 

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ksn0va said:
LGC Pominator said:
I, of the console...
I have a very diverse close circle of friends coming from all walks of gaming, be it console, pc, MMOs, casual, etc. And we all understand each other. Never has anyone tried to divide ourselves into our respective platforms. No one is a pc gamer or a console gamer, we should just be gamers. When someone or a community is a jerk to you, it's not because of the platform that they game on, it's just because they are jerks period. These people are not just destroying pc gaming, they're destroying gaming as whole.
Thats a cool way of looking at it, guess I do encounter a lot of jerks online
 

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So yeah, Slowbro. Surely Toby would be a better name for them?

After that rather obscure competitive pokemon reference I have this to say, that was pretty good. I do like these little story arcs.
 

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The past two comics have been great, this one was good but the first was just hilarious. I loved the kfc part.
 

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And thus is steam's fatal flaw revealed. Server congestion like the kind we saw when Fallout New Vegas released or an internet outage renders all your "property" useless.

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you are now aware that you can play any game in your steam library while not connected to the internet.


To everyone heralding the death of PC gaming: keep it up and some day it might come true, but don't hold out hope. The death of PC gaming has been imminent for longer than some of you have been gaming. I am meaning to insinuate that it's never going to happen, yes. It's just a myth that console-based companies like to perpetuate. That's called self-interest.
 

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warmonkey said:
Ghengis John said:
And thus is steam's fatal flaw revealed. Server congestion like the kind we saw when Fallout New Vegas released or an internet outage renders all your "property" useless.

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you are now aware that you can play any game in your steam library while not connected to the internet.
Ah well live and learn. As you may surmise I hardly deal with it. I only remember it from the old days where if I wasn't connected to the net I couldn't start up half-life. But you and steam can have my apologies right here and now. Kinda makes the whole comic pointless then doesn't it?

As for the second half of your post, it has nothing to do with me.
 

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2. Escapist building: These forums are known for their PC elitism and this comic mocks that.
Yeah, I thought the Slow-Bros! were parodies of what mainly Steam users or PC gamers viewed consol gamers.

...Trying to explain my point, but I can't seem to do that well.
 

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Where I live, the shipping and the taxes can cause a game to cost 80, even 90$ on day 1. If I buy them from steam, I can get them for 20$-40$ less, so fuck retail.
Steam also offers-

Unlimited downloads of your purchased Title
2 special sales a week and massive deals on holidays
A clean, convenient and easy to use marketplace and library management utility
Automatic Updates
Cloud Saves
IM Features
IRC Style Community Chat
Guilds & User Blogs
Easy joining of friends games.
The ability to preload money on your account
The ability to gift games to friends
4 Pack deals
Unobtrusive DRM
Built in Anti-Cheat software
UI Modding support
Game Modding Support
Active User Forums for every game and publisher
Demo's
Free Games
Tabs to easily sort new releases, top sellers, coming soon and special offers
A working search function
Convenient market place browsing
Access to game manuals without having to purchase the game
News related specifically to the games you own
The ability to gift spare copies to friends
The ability to add many retail CD keys
The ability to add non-utility games and programs to the users Library
The ability to review and suggest games for friends
A recommendations feature that suggests games you may enjoy
PC and MAC titles where you buy one version and receive both
Automatic Graphic Driver Updates (For AMD/ATI only)
A listing of all your transactions showing when you purchased a title and how much you personally paid for it.
Offline mode so that once you have activated a game once online you may use it without an internet connection.
Achievements
Tracked User stats such as hours played
Hardware surveys that let you trace adoption trends within PC gamers
Backup features to allow you to burn your games to disc

Which kind of makes up for the DRM issue for me.