Critique: Legion

[viranimus]

I am looking for thoughts and opinions on the box I am preparing to build. Feel free to critique the hell out of it. Definitely want feedback.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=20268347

 

[DefunctTheory]

Two different monitor types are usually a bad idea, if you can help it (I speak from experience)

Just shoot for a single better video card and run both monitors to it. Dump SLI (EDIT: I mean dual video card set up, not SLI. My bad).

Strange Hard Drive choices.

Icky Case (A 2000 dollar computer deserves a 200 dollar case)

ASRock motherboard? I personally don't like that brand. But oh well.

 

[MrTub]

May I ask why you havent gone with Sandy bridge cpu?

Raptor is a waste of cash. Either buy 2x 7200 and use raid 0 or buy a ssd.

 

[MrTub]

I am looking for thoughts and opinions on the box I am preparing to build. Feel free to critique the hell out of it. Definitely want feedback.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=20268347

Have you forgotten this thread?

Two different monitor types are usually a bad idea, if you can help it (I speak from experience)

Just shoot for a single better video card and run both monitors to it. Dump SLI (EDIT: I mean dual video card set up, not SLI. My bad).

Strange Hard Drive choices.

Icky Case (A 2000 dollar computer deserves a 200 dollar case)

ASRock motherboard? I personally don't like that brand. But oh well.

You do know that ASrock is Asus right?

 

[viranimus]

Have you forgotten this thread?

Yes, I guess I had forgotten it, sorry.

On the Sandy bridge, nothing in particular discounts it, Im just finding the slightly better deal based on overall GHZ, vs price, with the bloomfield. Trust me when I say I am not solidly locked into anything atm.

Snipalotapus

Now, as for the logic behind the drives. The raptor is specifically there for installed programs such as games and MMOs. Its not a huge amount but it will be faster than a 7200 performance wise on load etc. The idea is to keep that drive with the OS as well as whatever installed game I am playing at the time. If I am not playing it, it gets bumped back to the secondary drive for storage, along with music, videos, books, etc, that do not require high speed. So there is a method to my madness there. It ends up being the better choice based on my circumstances.

On the situation with the monitors.. there is a reason for different monitors. The first monitor will be the 3d monitor. The other monitor will be on the left of the 3d monitor. I also have the monitor I am using now, which is identical to the non 3d monitor, as it is just a discontinued VE226H compared to the VE228H monitors. So that will be my tri monitor display setup. Which that is why it will not utilize an SLI configuration. I will need 2 DVI outslots from one card, and 1 DVI outslot for the second card. So understand that going for a "better" video card would not solve my situation and it will require 2 NON SLI configured cards.


The case? Ehh, I like the case. I intend to hand paint marching roman standards in blacklight responsive red on the standoff wall. Dont see any logical reason to pay 200$ for a case, So I would have to have a compelling reason or examples, which I am open to suggestions, to change the case. I just have yet to see something in a 200$ case that has impressed me more than what I found in a 100$ case. (hell, my current build was pretty top tier about 2+ years ago, and its in a 40$ case)


As for Brands... Ehh to each their own taste. I have built 4 PCs now, and each have utilized ASrock mobos. I have been quite satisfied with their performance, layout and costs. So that works for me.

 

[DefunctTheory]

SNIP

You do know that ASrock is Asus right?

Budget ASUS. And if I want ASUS, I'm going deep, deep into ASUS's non-budget fun stuff (And never touching a DFI ever again, wretched pieces of crap).

Also, you seem to be oddly obsessed with the ol' Sandy board. I know they're nice, but you're boarding on sexual obsession.

Spoiler

Snipalotapus

Now, as for the logic behind the drives. The raptor is specifically there for installed programs such as games and MMOs. Its not a huge amount but it will be faster than a 7200 performance wise on load etc. The idea is to keep that drive with the OS as well as whatever installed game I am playing at the time. If I am not playing it, it gets bumped back to the secondary drive for storage, along with music, videos, books, etc, that do not require high speed. So there is a method to my madness there. It ends up being the better choice based on my circumstances.

On the situation with the monitors.. there is a reason for different monitors. The first monitor will be the 3d monitor. The other monitor will be on the left of the 3d monitor. I also have the monitor I am using now, which is identical to the non 3d monitor, as it is just a discontinued VE226H compared to the VE228H monitors. So that will be my tri monitor display setup. Which that is why it will not utilize an SLI configuration. I will need 2 DVI outslots from one card, and 1 DVI outslot for the second card. So understand that going for a "better" video card would not solve my situation and it will require 2 NON SLI configured cards.


The case? Ehh, I like the case. I intend to hand paint marching roman standards in blacklight responsive red on the standoff wall. Dont see any logical reason to pay 200$ for a case, So I would have to have a compelling reason or examples, which I am open to suggestions, to change the case. I just have yet to see something in a 200$ case that has impressed me more than what I found in a 100$ case. (hell, my current build was pretty top tier about 2+ years ago, and its in a 40$ case)


As for Brands... Ehh to each their own taste. I have built 4 PCs now, and each have utilized ASrock mobos. I have been quite satisfied with their performance, layout and costs. So that works for me.

I've never dealt with raptors myself, but my friend has. Twice. Both times, he's come to the conclusion that they're absolute garbage. The first time, it barely outperformed his mass storage drives, and his second (Purchased 8 months ago) was straight out slower then his TB Western Digital (Or was it a Seagate...).

As for the video cards, yah, that makes sense.

And the case, well, I'm going to toot the same horn I've tooted every time I've been asked. Behold, the best case ever produced by man (Though I have my doubts such a perfect piece of hardware could be forged by man)...

...

Crap, never mind. It seems, sometime in the last week or so, they finally sold out of Coolermaster Cosmos (Unpainted).

I guess what you got will do.

 

[viranimus]

Crap, never mind. It seems, sometime in the last week or so, they finally sold out of Coolermaster Cosmos (Unpainted).

I guess what you got will do.

Is this the case your referring to? If so, that does in fact look fairly awesome. But cases are mostly an aesthetic choice. Honestly If I had my way I would set up a mineral oil case. But I move around too much and it would be impractical.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Crap, never mind. It seems, sometime in the last week or so, they finally sold out of Coolermaster Cosmos (Unpainted).

I guess what you got will do.

Spoiler

Is this the case your referring to? If so, that does in fact look fairly awesome. But cases are mostly an aesthetic choice. Honestly If I had my way I would set up a mineral oil case. But I move around too much and it would be impractical.

I much prefer the one I have, the original.

Smooth lines and simple on the eye, yet majestic in its appeal. The absolute end of the line when it comes to style, cooling, and silence.

Ick, mineral oil. I enjoy fiddling with my computer too much. Be too much of a pain in the ass if the damn thing was submersed in fluid.

That, and I dislike 'flashy' cases. I much prefer subdued, yet elegant myself (Which is probably why I didn't like your choice in cases).

EDIT: Also, the Cosmos line is fairly huge. I could fit another case in this thing, and I just love the removable hard drive bays and the under the motherboard cable management (Which I need to redo when I have the space to do so).

 

[MrTub]

SNIP

You do know that ASrock is Asus right?

Budget ASUS. And if I want ASUS, I'm going deep, deep into ASUS's non-budget fun stuff (And never touching a DFI ever again, wretched pieces of crap).

Also, you seem to be oddly obsessed with the ol' Sandy board. I know they're nice, but you're boarding on sexual obsession.

Spoiler

Snipalotapus

Now, as for the logic behind the drives. The raptor is specifically there for installed programs such as games and MMOs. Its not a huge amount but it will be faster than a 7200 performance wise on load etc. The idea is to keep that drive with the OS as well as whatever installed game I am playing at the time. If I am not playing it, it gets bumped back to the secondary drive for storage, along with music, videos, books, etc, that do not require high speed. So there is a method to my madness there. It ends up being the better choice based on my circumstances.

On the situation with the monitors.. there is a reason for different monitors. The first monitor will be the 3d monitor. The other monitor will be on the left of the 3d monitor. I also have the monitor I am using now, which is identical to the non 3d monitor, as it is just a discontinued VE226H compared to the VE228H monitors. So that will be my tri monitor display setup. Which that is why it will not utilize an SLI configuration. I will need 2 DVI outslots from one card, and 1 DVI outslot for the second card. So understand that going for a "better" video card would not solve my situation and it will require 2 NON SLI configured cards.


The case? Ehh, I like the case. I intend to hand paint marching roman standards in blacklight responsive red on the standoff wall. Dont see any logical reason to pay 200$ for a case, So I would have to have a compelling reason or examples, which I am open to suggestions, to change the case. I just have yet to see something in a 200$ case that has impressed me more than what I found in a 100$ case. (hell, my current build was pretty top tier about 2+ years ago, and its in a 40$ case)


As for Brands... Ehh to each their own taste. I have built 4 PCs now, and each have utilized ASrock mobos. I have been quite satisfied with their performance, layout and costs. So that works for me.

I've never dealt with raptors myself, but my friend has. Twice. Both times, he's come to the conclusion that they're absolute garbage. The first time, it barely outperformed his mass storage drives, and his second (Purchased 8 months ago) was straight out slower then his TB Western Digital (Or was it a Seagate...).

As for the video cards, yah, that makes sense.

And the case, well, I'm going to toot the same horn I've tooted every time I've been asked. Behold, the best case ever produced by man (Though I have my doubts such a perfect piece of hardware could be forged by man)...

...

Crap, never mind. It seems, sometime in the last week or so, they finally sold out of Coolermaster Cosmos (Unpainted).

I guess what you got will do.

haha might be true. The reason for that is where I live there is cheaper to buy a 1155 mobo & cpu then to buy a 1366 mobo and a good cpu.

So whenever bulldozers comes around and if it outperform SB and if its cheaper then I will recommend it

This is rma done during april month

So I really wouldnt have any problem recommending asrock.

 

[MrTub]

Have you forgotten this thread?

Yes, I guess I had forgotten it, sorry.

On the Sandy bridge, nothing in particular discounts it, Im just finding the slightly better deal based on overall GHZ, vs price, with the bloomfield. Trust me when I say I am not solidly locked into anything atm.

Snipalotapus

Now, as for the logic behind the drives. The raptor is specifically there for installed programs such as games and MMOs. Its not a huge amount but it will be faster than a 7200 performance wise on load etc. The idea is to keep that drive with the OS as well as whatever installed game I am playing at the time. If I am not playing it, it gets bumped back to the secondary drive for storage, along with music, videos, books, etc, that do not require high speed. So there is a method to my madness there. It ends up being the better choice based on my circumstances.

On the situation with the monitors.. there is a reason for different monitors. The first monitor will be the 3d monitor. The other monitor will be on the left of the 3d monitor. I also have the monitor I am using now, which is identical to the non 3d monitor, as it is just a discontinued VE226H compared to the VE228H monitors. So that will be my tri monitor display setup. Which that is why it will not utilize an SLI configuration. I will need 2 DVI outslots from one card, and 1 DVI outslot for the second card. So understand that going for a "better" video card would not solve my situation and it will require 2 NON SLI configured cards.


The case? Ehh, I like the case. I intend to hand paint marching roman standards in blacklight responsive red on the standoff wall. Dont see any logical reason to pay 200$ for a case, So I would have to have a compelling reason or examples, which I am open to suggestions, to change the case. I just have yet to see something in a 200$ case that has impressed me more than what I found in a 100$ case. (hell, my current build was pretty top tier about 2+ years ago, and its in a 40$ case)


As for Brands... Ehh to each their own taste. I have built 4 PCs now, and each have utilized ASrock mobos. I have been quite satisfied with their performance, layout and costs. So that works for me.

Just so you know SB outperforms everything from socket 1366, if you are not buying the 1000$ cpu and even then SB is not so far behind.

m8 I would recommend that you get a SSD instead of a raptor and if you find a mobo with z68 it got a feature called SSD caching

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68-express-lucidlogix-virtu-ssd-caching,2888-2.html