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TheNewDemoman

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Welllll.

To start off I for one love the look of it. But from what my PC gamer (somewhat Elitist) friends have said. It is a dumbed down COD clone. I am buying it for my PS3, mainly because my laptop can run SC2 on lowest settings with 1 second control lag.


What do you guys think?

edit just saw another thread about the same thing disregard this post sorry :(
 

Flac00

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I would say your PC friends are idiots and really can't judge the depth of a game like crysis before actually trying it out first (unless they downloaded it illeagally as a beta, in which case you should slap them for piracy). I would say, buy it. Even if it was a dumbed down version of crysis 1, that is still a pretty badass game. I have tried the multiplayer demo, and it has definitely created an experience very different from call of duty, though it does share some similarities. Still, if you really want, just wait for the game to decrease in price over the summer and you can probably get it for 30 or 40 dollars.
 

Wolfram23

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I like it. To call it a CoD clone is assinine, honestly. You just can't get around the fact that having actual abilities - armour, cloak, nano vision - among a few other upgrades, it takes skill. It's almost like a fusion of RPG elements. I don't mean gain exp and buy upgrades. I mean if you ever did lvl 29 or 39 battlegrounds in WoW for example, the playing field can be pretty even and he who uses his different skills the best will win.

I recorded a few gameplay vids, maybe it'll show you how it differs:
There's a couple more on my YouTube channel
 

TheComedown

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TheNewDemoman said:
It is a dumbed down COD clone.
I don't understand why everyone keeps saying this, in terms of game play there is actually more depth then the COD games. If you actually play a little more with your head, the armor cloak nanovision increased jump and speed, mix the gameplay up a great deal more then each progressive cod game has.
 

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Flac00 said:
I would say your PC friends are idiots and really can't judge the depth of a game like crysis before actually trying it out first (unless they downloaded it illeagally as a beta, in which case you should slap them for piracy).
Or you know, downloaded the demo like everyone else.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/99830/

Have a look down on the right.
 

TheNewDemoman

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Wolfram01 said:
I like it. To call it a CoD clone is assinine, honestly. You just can't get around the fact that having actual abilities - armour, cloak, nano vision - among a few other upgrades, it takes skill. It's almost like a fusion of RPG elements. I don't mean gain exp and buy upgrades. I mean if you ever did lvl 29 or 39 battlegrounds in WoW for example, the playing field can be pretty even and he who uses his different skills the best will win.

I recorded a few gameplay vids, maybe it'll show you how it differs:
There's a couple more on my YouTube channel
Nice gameplay

One of the few people to EVER use nanovision xD
 

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i played the PC demo and loved it. your friends are either bad at it or are idiots. the big thing that completely separates the gameplay is the aility have different powers to counter your enemy. you don't run around and shoot people who die in one shot, you run around and shoot enemies with armor on so that it could take up to 2 clips to kill them. the big thing im looking frward to is the real multiplayer where more weapons will be available and the game will really come into its own.
 

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TheNewDemoman said:
Nice gameplay

One of the few people to EVER use nanovision xD
Think the reason it doesn't get used a great deal is cause the default binding is retarded, "n" is to far away same with the zoom feature, being bound to "b" also makes it a pain in the arse to use, I've been meaning to rebind these.
 

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TheComedown said:
Flac00 said:
I would say your PC friends are idiots and really can't judge the depth of a game like crysis before actually trying it out first (unless they downloaded it illeagally as a beta, in which case you should slap them for piracy).
Or you know, downloaded the demo like everyone else.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/99830/

Have a look down on the right.
ooo snap. I did not know that there was a PC demo. Ok, well now I seem like a dueche
 

Wolfram23

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TheComedown said:
TheNewDemoman said:
Nice gameplay

One of the few people to EVER use nanovision xD
Think the reason it doesn't get used a great deal is cause the default binding is retarded, "n" is to far away same with the zoom feature, being bound to "b" also makes it a pain in the arse to use, I've been meaning to rebind these.
Exactly! I now have melee and nano vision on my 2 mouse thumb buttons. Works wonderfully!

(Comedown: Thanks :D)
 

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Despite me grievences with how much the game has changed I still enjoyed it. Although I am no PC elitist and don't like to throw the "consolized" card around, I'm afraid I have to here based on the demo. The game has been "consolized" and it's a damn shame for people like me who played Crysis multiplayer since the beginning. In it's own right, Crysis 2 is good, but compared to it's predecessor...it's scaled back.

Cloak and speed have been nerfed big time:

Speed mode in the first game wasn't bound to your sprint, you had a SPRINT KEY for that. No Speed mode was it's own thing and when you turned that on you fucking flew, it really felt like you were speed hacking but it was never too fast. Now it's just your standard sprint function you find in any FPS...maybe a tad faster but still a shell of its former self. Speed was always one of those things you use to make a quick escape or clear open and vulnerable areas, not so much here.

Cloak mode drains too quickly compared to the first game, although I found this to have its pros and cons. In the first game, the drain was proportional to how much you moved, and while that still holds truing in Crysis 2 there are some noticeable differences. I don't mind it too much here because I can see why they nerfed it for balancing reasons. But why the hell does it drain so fucking fast when you are stationary? In the first game, you could sit still in cloak mode not moving for like a minute before needing to recharge...the hell is with the nerf? I would have gladly taken a quicker cloak drain for movement than have stationary drain be so damn fast.

Strength mode works generally the same as it did before, no big deal with any tweaks done to it.

Turning on armor mode is pretty odd at first, but again i can sorta see the balancing act they were trying to go with. Although it feels kind of inconsistent as sometime I take a hell of a beating and other times I drop in no time at all. Though that could just be players getting some good shots in, not a big deal to me though.

No more on the fly weapon customization is a bit of a shame, but it's not that big of a deal, more of a superficial thing. Picking your load out at the beginning of the game is fine by me.

I am very doubtful there will be any official maps that are huge and wide open like the first game. Although the PC version will have mods so this problem can be quickly solved along with player caps and hopefully vehicles as well. I wanna see some maps from the first game come back though, that would be great.

And yea there is something about the feel of it all that gives off that console vibe. Now like I said, I still had fun with the game, but it really doesn't stack up to the first game in terms of features which is a damn shame. The augments do somewhat offset this and so far they feel balanced as well as the kill streaks. They don't feel as unbalanced and broken as some of CoDs perks and kill streaks.

I really do like how kill streaks are done in this game though as you gotta go the extra step in order to get them. You can't just be a sniping ***** and rack up kills then call in the space laser or whatever. No, you gotta go over to your victims body and collect dog tags and the kill streak requires a certain amount of dog tags collected in order to execute it. And if you die but still managed to get that requirements for that kill streak before, then you retain it which is nice.

Really on the game play side of thing, I am torn. On one hand it's a stripped down version of its former self like I said. But held up by its own merits it is a fine and enjoyable game that may come a little close to call of duty but hell,it's Call of Duty with super powers...SUPER POWERS. So while I am disappointed that it's not what I expected, I had fun and I can respect it for what it is and will probably end up buying it if my next concern is alleviated.

The graphics options in the damn demo better be for the demo only and not be like that in the final game. Now I am no graphics whore, I loved Cryis for the damn gameplay with the visuals being the icing on the cake. But the demo left me worried by having really basic graphics options of: Resolution, vsync, fullscren/window, and graphics settings in its most besic; gamer? hardcore? the hell? I don't care how well optimized cryengine 3 is, I want to option to tweak AA, shadows, textures, the whole nine yards like I can in the first game and plenty of other PC games.

This better be for the demo because if this is how the full game is going to be I will be gravely disappointed that they strayed so far from the PC in order to bring this game to consoles. If that was the case they should have just kept the game on PC or consoles if they were just gonna pull this kind of stunt. It's even worse when they claimed that PC is still of their highest concern and they chuck us this demo that just sends off a lot of alarms.

*sigh* Well as you can see I'm rather conflicted on the whole thing and have this love-hate relationship right now with it as some other people may. That's just my 2 cents I guess, enough rambling from me.
 

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i just don't like the player cap 6v6? really i know the maps are smaller but 6v6 seems a little bit too empty
 

TheNewDemoman

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believer258 said:
TheNewDemoman said:
Welllll.

To start off I for one love the look of it. But from what my PC gamer (somewhat Elitist) friends have said. It is a dumbed down COD clone. I am buying it for my PS3, mainly because my laptop can run SC2 on lowest settings with 1 second control lag.


What do you guys think?

edit just saw another thread about the same thing disregard this post sorry :(
Can I ask what sort of laptop you have? Specifically, processor and which integrated graphics chip it uses? I'd like to run Starcraft 2, but I didn't think any laptop could run it respectably. Low settings don't bother me unless it will interfere with gameplay.
A standard Dell Inspiron 1545 Laptop.

And it interferes with gameplay because I have 1 sec control lag that means. No pro force fields
 

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Well if you played any of the last 4 CoD games... it's just like that with extra features(nanosuit thingies).

Crysis 1 fanboys seem to have all sorts of issues with it, and CoD fanboys are on the fence aswell, and I honestly couldn't care less, Crytek is just not a good game developer their engine is sublime but their games are painfully average.
 

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It's as much COD as it is Halo, that seems to be how Crytek wants to possition the game, not quite modern warfare and not total sci-fi space opera
 

Zhukov

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Had a go at the demo.

Yeeeaaahh... no.

I wouldn't go so far as calling it a CoD clone, as some have done, but it does feel awfully similar.

However, I appreciate the ability to jump and climb all over the place. And the armour-sprint-stealth-recharge balance is interesting.

There's certainly some fun to be had, but at the end of the day it looks like yet-another-bloody-FPS with very little to make it stand out from the increasingly bloated crowd.