Crysis, Why The Hate?

[Joeshie]

Sure the story was a pile of shit, but the gameplay and graphics were superb. Being able to customize your guns on the fly along with having multiple abilities really allowed you to tackle enemies in various ways.

Obviously, it's not someone anyone is going to remember ten years from now, but it's still a pretty good FPS.

 

[stompy]

Obviously, it's not someone anyone is going to remember ten years from now, but it's still a pretty good FPS.

Hopefully, we do remember it. I hope that developers remember how making your game nigh impossible to play on the average gaming PC, how focusing on graphics led to an average game that was a resource hog... I hope they remember that it don't sell. Not too well anyways.

 

[Flangle]

Right thank you all for your comments but I see some people went over the top a little.
This was only meant to be a happy little thread where we gaily conversed about Crysis' positives and negatives. Stop the hate, if you really hated it as much as you said Saevus why play it?

Personally i think Crysis as more of a test program for the new graphics.
P.S I'm supprised with the amount of replies i got overnight!

 

[Unknower]

For fuck's sake, there's medium settings for graphics. You guys would have been perfectly happy if Crysis would have been a lot uglier because then you could play it with highest settings. But no, not having the highest on makes the game suddenly unplayable, impossible to play and other bullshit like that.

Crysis has great gameplay. Nanosuit is actually something new, rather than the "generic nano-tech suit" Yahtzee said it is. The suit modes and the energy it drains are really well balanced and it gives you freedom which many other games completely lack. The huge maps allow sandbox style of approach to how you do objectives. Weapon customization is another great feature. For example, assault rifle with a sniper scope or a reflex sight, a grenade launcher, laser sight and a silencer was my preferred weapon in multiplayer. Only incendiary ammo and flashlight are totally needless in that feature. Firing modes are a nice feature too. AI is mostly great, with occasional hic-ups. Physics allow you to destroy a wall to make a new entrance to a hut and throw barrels at enemies or to put a C4 to a barrel and then throw it to a enemy.

Crysis' multiplayer Power Struggle is nicely complex, but not complicated. With fixes it could be really great, but now it has too many problems with hackers and aircraft being too strong.

Story, well, story is mediocre (though the original version was better, Crytek was stupid when they changed the plot) and it is my biggest gripe with Crysis.

Use of music is also nice, as it's good and it changes based on the situation (not like in HL2, where they played a song when you crossed an invisible line). Especially great in multiplayer, when the appropriate music starts to play when you're trying to nuke enemy base.

All in all, even though it was horribly bugged in release (it still has some annoying bugs after the patches) and didn't lead us to the Promised Land, I think Crysis is one of the best FPSs I've played and I'm planning on buying Crysis: Warhead.

 

[Samirat]

Psh, Crysis is awesome. I replayed it the other day, and it was even better the second time through.

Even on Delta mode, enemies die with a single shot from any gun to the head.

From a precision rifle, or pistols. I've seen 3 direct hits to the head from the AK shrugged off like nothing;

The only enemies that can take a head shot with any gun and live are the ones with nanosuits. There are some instances where, at long ranges, a headshot is the only way to kill them, since their body armor absorbs the impact of the decellerated bullet. Even then, however, a single headshot takes them down, even from a pistol, or smg.

 

[Saevus]

Unknower, when you say the nanosuit is something new... ever played Deus Ex? That's got all the 'suit modes' of Crysis, and more.

Bin-gooo.

The 'weapon customization' is pretty much 'Do I want the red-dot or a scope?' and little more than that. Deus Ex offered MEANINGFUL weapon customization. It actually offered you several completely valid ways to complete an objective, without this 'Uh, well it's an open area, so it must be sandbox!' bollocks.

Stop the hate, if you really hated it as much as you said Saevus why play it?

You made this thread to know why people hate Crysis; now you know. I played up to the escape from the excavation site or whatever, and decided that I'd seen enough to know how the game played. A good FPS is Bioshock; a good FPS is HL2: Episode 2; a good FPS Crysis is not.

 

[Unknower]

Unknower, when you say the nanosuit is something new... ever played Deus Ex? That's got all the 'suit modes' of Crysis, and more.

Nope and I don't think I got a very good picture how it works when I read about Deus Ex on Wikipedia. Anyway, I got the impression that Deus Ex's nano-augmentations give you a constant bonus while in Crysis you can only have one mode on at a time, which drains energy,

 

[Saevus]

Unknower, when you say the nanosuit is something new... ever played Deus Ex? That's got all the 'suit modes' of Crysis, and more.

Nope and I don't think I got a very good picture how it works when I read about Deus Ex on Wikipedia. Anyway, I got the impression that Deus Ex's nano-augmentations give you a constant bonus while in Crysis you can only have one mode on at a time, which drains energy,

Thank you for completely missing one of the absolute pinnacles in brilliant game design.

 

[pha kin su pah]

an assault rifle will never be a sniper rifle no matter which way you paint it. WTB variety.

a pretty game, and a pretty bland game.

 

[Danny Ocean]

I liked it enough to stay up overnight playing it, does that mean I have low standards?

 

[karn3]

Generally I enjoyed Crysis, sure there were a few irritating sections and as soon as the island goes icy it turns to a pile of lame, but the first 4/5 of the game are very fun to play. The suit powers are nicely balanced even on easy, and this demands that you be strategic in your attacks on the little bunches of koreans. The suit powers are almost endless fun, I like pretending to be a predator from the film. The bit where your in a tank blows, and its heart wrenching to think that it could have been so much better. It irritates but I don't hate it.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

Hopefully, we do remember it. I hope that developers remember how making your game nigh impossible to play on the average gaming PC, how focusing on graphics led to an average game that was a resource hog... I hope they remember that it don't sell. Not too well anyways.

Of course, the only problem with that is that it did sell, it sold very well in fact, enough to satisfy even the ordinarily rapacious EA.

 

[ladyparvati]

why so hate for CRYSIS ? :

i guess ...

- people are angry because they can not play this video game excitingly due to its very high hardware performance demand out of a fair enough computer working power .
- people have to upgrade their computers to play this video game and eventually they do upgrade them with a lot of money but with this money they may intend to buy video game console .

 

[runtheplacered]

I'd have rated it at 60% or so, not the 'Game of the year!' 94% horseshit that everyone spews like rancid projectile vomit. It was so goddamn lame and mediocre that I was too pissed off to go 'Wow, look at those graphics!'.

The fact that you have so much angst about it is... weird. It's hard to take you seriously.

The game clearly wasn't THAT bad. I don't like Halo, but I'm not going to run around spewing out hate like I'm the demon in The Exorcist.

Also, comparing this game to Deus Ex is like comparing COD4 to Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. Other then the fact that both have a perspective from the first person there's not a whole lot of similarities.

I don't even particularly think Crysis is that awesome. I've played through the single player once, and that was it. Glad I did, but don't see myself doing it again anytime this decade. But occasionally I see a post so off the mark, and so unfair that I can't help but say something. How could you possibly have that much hate inside you that you have to make up crap just to hate even more? ("there's no point to a headshot when your enemy can take 10 rounds in the face without flinching" is a lie)

You might want to shed some of that teenage angst the next time you review a video game. Just a suggestion.

 

[Saevus]

I'd have rated it at 60% or so, not the 'Game of the year!' 94% horseshit that everyone spews like rancid projectile vomit. It was so goddamn lame and mediocre that I was too pissed off to go 'Wow, look at those graphics!'.

The fact that you have so much angst about it is... weird. It's hard to take you seriously.

The game clearly wasn't THAT bad. I don't like Halo, but I'm not going to run around spewing out hate like I'm the demon in The Exorcist.

Also, comparing this game to Deus Ex is like comparing COD4 to Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. Other then the fact that both have a perspective from the first person there's not a whole lot of similarities.

I don't even particularly think Crysis is that awesome. I've played through the single player once, and that was it. Glad I did, but don't see myself doing it again anytime this decade. But occasionally I see a post so off the mark, and so unfair that I can't help but say something. How could you possibly have that much hate inside you that you have to make up crap just to hate even more? ("there's no point to a headshot when your enemy can take 10 rounds in the face without flinching" is a lie)

You might want to shed some of that teenage angst the next time you review a video game. Just a suggestion.

Any more presumptions you'd care to throw out there?

It was not a sin against God. It was a severely mediocre game that was treated like it sprang forth from the loins of the fucking Hapsburgs because it had insane graphics.

And if a game is supposedly 'sandbox and flexible', then it'd be nice for there to actually be multiple effective approaches. There's scant point to being patient and taking potshots with your rifle when it's far easier and faster to cloak, infiltrate, and shotgun everything that looks at you funny. It was not open-ended by a longshot, unless you count 'Well, you can do it a few other ways if you've got a lot of time on your hands and you're a glutton for punishment'. Open-ended is Deus Ex; open-ended is S.T.A.L.K.E.R.; open-ended is Elder Scrolls.

Crysis had some really cool moments. Launching from the top of a waterfall in watercraft, while pursued by a helicopter, gunning down enemies on the shore, leaping out of the boat and firing rockets at the heli from no more cover than jungle brush made me hot and bothered. But that was about 5% of the game, at least the first half that I slogged through, when the hype surrounding Crysis indicated the entire trip would be just that good. So when a thread comes along asking for hatred, I'm going to put on my vitrioleur's hat and burn the thing for all it's worth, not review it. A review is constructive, structured, concise, and objective. A rant in some random forum thread? Not so much.

It's the pinnacle of form over function, which is proving beyond detrimental to gaming right now. I look at all the publicity, all the technology, all the buyers, and all the potential. Which was promptly wasted to make the equivalent of a rather dry turkey sandwich look like a gourmet delight instead of giving us something that could've beaten out Bioshock.

Note: look up angst sometime in the dictionary; the word you were looking for was vitriol, but you passed it up in favour of something a touch more ad hominem.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

It's the pinnacle of form over function, which is proving beyond detrimental to gaming right now.

And there's my primary problem with Crysis. It's a twelve-course meal consisting entirely of (eye) candy. And the fact that it sold so well is only going to persuade other companies to abandon complexity, story and gameplay in favor of ever-increasingly "brightly-colored dross" (to quote a certain British-born Austrailia resident) with all the depth of a smear of ketchup on a countertop.

I will admit- I only played the demo, not the full game. The demo was more than enough to convince me that I will never pay more than $15 for the full game, and certainly not the $50 it's commanding right now. It played out for me as an extraordinarily pretty Mod for Far Cry. The nanosuit's functions are little more than gimmicks, except for the stealth function, which makes things entirely too easy. For a game that prides itself on a semi-realistic approach, the fact that an alerted, unarmored enemy can take ten silenced rifle roudns to the back before dying is just silly. And yes, I HAVE placed multiple rounds into the head of an alerted enemy and seen them still stand, and this was on the Normal difficulty.

And do I need to mention the bugs? Look up videos on YouTube and see how abjectly stupid the AI can be, including dropping dead for no apparent reason at all. Although it can be supernaturally intelligent when it wants to be; shoot one perimeter guard from a distance with a silenced weapon, and people fifty feet away go on alert. I have to admit, though- I found it hilarious when two NPRK regulars crowded into an outhouse while searching for me. I was less amused when I emptied my weapon into their backs and one was still standing.

The reason this game gets so much hate is that it is the vanguard of a very dangerous trend for gaming- a plethora of one-dimensional games that rely only on looking pretty and provide absolutely nothing revolutionary, or even evolutionary, in any other aspect. I don't want to play the same game over and over again with a different shade of paint over it.

 

[Chrinik]

I may need to tell you some, in a Review given to GameStar, a german PC Game Magazine, the Head of Crytek Studios (some very middle east sounding name, i dont remember) said: "we wanted to make a Game, that people can look at in 4 Years and say "Damn, thats still top notch Grafics!", because the PCs Develop more and more, and faster then Consoles."

Thats the reason for the Grafics...

Also, Crysis: Warhead supposedly (said by the Developers) will run on a 500?(about 650$) PC and will look AS GOOD as Crysis, due to better programming...because what TAKES so much resources in Crysis is the way its programmed...using highend textures where they arent needed and realtime shadow where you will not see if its real time and scripting issues...optimizing this, and Crisis would run on any high end PC in High grafics fluently, which is what they are doing with Warhead.


Back to topic:
I dont own Crisis nor do i own a PC able to run it even in minimum, but i played it on a Macbook Pro of a friend of mine...missing the right mousebutton was a huge disadvantage, but it was playable.
The story was meh, as it is with most current FPSes but the action was there...blowing up a whole village was more satisfaction then you would think.
Enemy in a house? Just lob a nade agaist the walls and the whole cieling will bury him.

The Spaceship lvl sucked tho...

 

[Monarch of Greenwich]

I believe that the game, and really every game using the "Kry" engine, are "ok", but sadly don't really tap into what the "Kry" engine is capable of. It seems in better use in an open world game or mmo rather that a shooter...