Crytek Bringing CryEngine to Wii U

[Woodsey]

"But can the Wii U run Crysis, hmm? PC elitists, assemble!"

So... old... must... not... tear... off... own... face...

 

[RA92]

I've already been suspended once for having a pop at PC gamers so I'm being cautious here. But... surely a game isn't worth that much fucking effort? Then again I have heard people speaking about ArmA games as if it's serious, world-changing shit so maybe this stuff just gets in your head and turns you into a pseudu-military wannabe-killing machine.

Pseudo-military wannabe machine...?

Ignoring that bit... no, ArmA isn't your typical run-and-gun shooter - it's a tactical war simulator. You set way points for your troops, manage your squad, call in air-strikes, etc over an enormous battlefield, not to mention a powerful editor. Every vehicle is controllable by the player himself. Basically, it gives you enormous control over a large scale battlefield. It's fitting that Bohemia is remaking Carrier Command (which spans over an archipelago of 32 islands). All these - large maps, complex AI routine - require quite a bit of oomph. Bohemia, for example, is making Carrier Command a multiplatform title - but they're not releasing it on the Xbox360 or PS3, but on the next gen consoles that'll hopefully have the hardware to run it.

Some people may find them pointless, but then again, the original Carrier Command and Hostile Water are considered major developments of gaming history. They fill a niche. It's nice for the gamers who want more depth in their manshoots.

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[Not G. Ivingname]

But can the Wii U run Crysis, hmm? PC elitists, assemble!

Sorry, we kinda moved on, considering Crysis is 4 year old now. Consoles are too late to the party.

Not to worry, ArmA 3 is our next source of sadomasochism - a shining beacon to hardware killers.

2000 AIs on one battlefield, anyone?

Let the trial by fire commence!

Funny story: Back when Crysis was a young game, only just released, my brother's PC actually did start smouldering when he tried to run it. The graphics card ran too hot (or something I didn't really hear through my laughter) and it just started smoking like a chimney at a funeral home.

You think that's bad?

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This video is 2 years old, and this guy had to overclock his CPU to 4.6GHz to run ArmA 2 with 1700 AIs. He encountered 5 blue screens of death, 4 fatal errors, and about 15 system restarts as he tried to overclock his CPU to its limits (ArmA is more CPU-intensive than GPU). He had to get ice in plastic bags and cover his CPU, plus about 8 fans, just to try and keep it cool.

We salute these brave men and women - people like your brother and richiespeedisback.

O_O

Holy mother of God...

Even with all that, how did that guys computer not turn burn it's way to the Earth's core?

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

yet another third party pledging their support for Nintendo. And of course probably another round of faux-hardcore gamers still predicting doomsday.

 

[NLS]

Guess that means the WiiU uses DirectX9 as it's API then.

No reason the WiiU couldn't run Crysis 2, it's a DirectX9 game after all, if it can't run a game based on a nearly decade old piece of software, then Mr Miyamoto needs a slap.

I doubt the Wii U is using DirectX 9. It will probably use some custom or OpenGL based API just like the PlayStation 3 (PS3 can run Crysis 2, and it doesn't have DX9).
DirectX is exclusive to Microsoft's operating system and consoles.

 

[kurokenshi]

"But can the Wii U run Crysis, hmm? PC elitists, assemble!"

You rang!

As long as it doesn't affect PC versions of their games I'm not worried.

 

[Zer_]

i think the most interesting thing to take away from the Crytek's comments are that the Wii U hardware is apparently already finalized and in the hands of developers.

But Can it run the CryEngine they will be making for xbox 3 and ps4?

-_-'

[sub]Son of a *****...[/sub]

i know this quoted view will be repeated often to the point of being meme like and there is little point in trying to combat it in the uninformed but if the rumours about the Wii Us chip hardware being only one generation behind current top end PCs are correct its highly unlikely any xbox 3 or ps4 produced in the next 3 years will greatly outstrip its performance.

there are certain cost/heat/size/technology considerations that have to be taken into account when building a viable console and all 3 manufacturers will build their machines out of PC technology at least one generation behind on smaller than was used in that generation current PC mainstream wafer technology to reduce power consumption and heat.

wafer technology doesn't change that quickly and to go smaller than the current PC mainstream incurs much production higher cost and certain associated technological risks.

so basically the whole "xbox 3 and ps4 will blow it away" thing isn't really likely to happen unless Microsoft and sony decide to wait for PC technology to advance and thusly give the Wii U a substantial amount of time with the next gen market all to itself.

Guess that means the WiiU uses DirectX9 as it's API then.

Microsofts API only runs on top of Microsoft OSs (like in the xbox and windows PCs)

graphics chips abilities can be and are called directly when they are used in other hardware/software environments.

when referring to the chips going into a non Microsoft consoles you can, at most, use the chips DirectX compatibility as a measure of capability but little more.

no console apart from the xbox actually runs DirectX (DirectX 8.1 in the original xbox and DirectX 9.0c in the current xbox 360)
both consoles run a custom Microsoft OS.

PS. CryEngine 3 runs in DirectX 9, 10 and 11

Technically the 360 uses a custom version of DirectX. The C1 graphics chip was designed by ATI and incorporates a unified shader architecture (at the time this was not present in current gen PC GPUs).

The reality is that the 360 supports DX9's feature set along with some DX10 capabilities.

 

[TriGGeR_HaPPy]

You think that's bad?

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This video is 2 years old, and this guy had to overclock his CPU to 4.6GHz to run ArmA 2 with 1700 AIs. He encountered 5 blue screens of death, 4 fatal errors, and about 15 system restarts as he tried to overclock his CPU to its limits (ArmA is more CPU-intensive than GPU). He had to get ice in plastic bags and cover his CPU, plus about 8 fans, just to try and keep it cool.

We salute these brave men and women - people like your brother and richiespeedisback.

Interesting thing I learnt during 2nd year Computer System Architecture at uni: Overclocking is stupid, don't do it (in layman's terms).

(EDIT: In this post, I'm talking about merely overclocking the CPU while not changing/upgrading the other components in a computer to make good use of the faster CPU speed.
Overclocking can work, but only if you also upgrade a lot of the other hardware to match the new speed. If you don't do this, then the rest of this post is what happens. And if you do upgrade the required other parts of your machine to match this new speed... Then you obviously have money, why not just also buy a CPU that runs naturally at the faster speed?
It's quite bad how many people think that overclocking the CPU to 2 (or more) times the CPU's natural speed, while doing nothing else to their computer, is in any way a good idea. >_> )

If your CPU runs normally at, say, 1GHz, s'all well and good. Overclock it to 4GHz, and you've got 4 times the speed, right?
Wrong.
In general, you'll maybe get about a 1.1 or 1.15 times faster overall computer speed from overclocking. No matter if you overclock it from 1GHz to 2GHz, 3GHz, 4GHz, etc, you won't actually be making your computer "faster" (due to many things I won't go into right now ), all you'll be doing is making your CPU overheat, and if you overclock regularly, it will die a lot faster than if you didn't overclock.

My point being, I'm willing to bet that a lot of the problems that person encountered was due to him effectively cooking his CPU to a crisp. All for a realistically not-noticeable difference in game performance.

 

[RA92]

I still couldn't care less about the Wii U. It is funny, however, to see what PC "gamers" say in threads like these.

"This game can only run on PC, and I had to use orphans blood to cool it down, and overclock it 80 times before it exploded and killed my entire family. FUCK YEAH! PC GAMING!"

I don't understand why you have to be such a butthurt fanboi about this. Just because some gamers are more into performance than you are doesn't invalidate their status as gamers.

It's almost like you have an inferiority complex, and need to cry out to validate your existence.

 

[ph0b0s123]

Why is this a surprise. The latest report is that the Wii U has an AMD / ATI Radeon 4000 GPU, which is DX 10 and was perfectly fine running Crysis.

As to Crytek wanting to put versions of Cryengine on as many devices as possible, well duh. I expect mobile devices will be next. Nvidia's Kal-El quad core SOC would probably be a good target....

PS. CryEngine 3 runs in DirectX 9, 10 and 11

DirectX 10, 11 allegedly as no-one has seen it doing that yet, until a certain patch is released.

 

[yundex]

I still couldn't care less about the Wii U. It is funny, however, to see what PC "gamers" say in threads like these.

"This game can only run on PC, and I had to use orphans blood to cool it down, and overclock it 80 times before it exploded and killed my entire family. FUCK YEAH! PC GAMING!"

I don't understand why you have to be such a butthurt fanboi about this. Just because some gamers are more into performance than you are doesn't invalidate their status as gamers.

It's almost like you have an inferiority complex, and need to cry out to validate your existence.

Hardly, kid. I do a bit of PC gaming myself. What would I be a fan boy of, exactly? Your post is flawed. It seems more like most people have the inferiority complex and have to brag about their super computers in the same way a man with a small penis buys a Dodge Viper to compensate. Don't lash out when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Since I have used gucci outfits I bought for 1/3 the price I am insecure or have an inferiority complex as well? I don't see any "bragging" in this thread, some people just make more money than you do, and some of those people are even gamers! How dare us talk about the things we like! What else are we supposed to do with our money? NOT buy the best gaming machines, cars, clothes and food we can?

 

[yundex]

Hardly what I was getting at. It doesn't matter, apparently. I make a large salary and wear expensive suits when the mood strikes, but I certainly never talk about how great my suit is. It wasn't really this thread that my post belonged. It was a few other threads where people were talking about some new PC game that was crashing computers because of the specs it required. I just took that natural hatred for something so ridiculous over to this thread.

And if you talked about how great your suit was, I wouldn't care. I don't know what threads you're talking about but they sound interesting

 

[Jabberwock King]

I personally can't wait to hear about the recall notices that will go out following numerous reports of self-destructing Nintendo-Shits. (I refuse to call it the Wii-U, as I still hold some level of self respect, so deal with it.)

 

[lacktheknack]

"But can the Wii U run Crysis, hmm? PC elitists, assemble!"
Of course it will be able to. Crysis is like 4 years old by now?

What was an unbeatable multi thousand dollar top of the line bleeding edge gaming PC just *one* year ago is barely average now... Three or four years in PC time is four generations.

And each generation just costs a fraction of the previous one. I remember spending all my money on a ? 610 3D card (ATI 9700 PRO in 2004?). Now I got a much, much better one for ? 120...

It's a running gag, man. And besides, it was so damn far ahead of it's time that it took two generations for computers to even BEGIN running it at all-maximum at 60 FPS.

Anyways, this engine looks amazing. I wonder if they'll use it for more than four games this time around?