Dark Souls PC, biggest over-rated garbage ever

[Pink Gregory]

Someone explain to me where 'highly-rated by many people who have enjoyed it' becomes 'over-rated'?

 

[lacktheknack]

They probably should have gone the http://www.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SuperMeatBoy-2012-02-17-13-06-13-16.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--ukUbH9XhD8/Ta1CZLmQ3MI/AAAAAAAACjI/00rDz13m9VQ/s1600/SuperMeatBoy_PC_002.png

http://bjrose.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/meat-boy-control.jpg

For the record, I play with a keyboard.

All I was really hoping for was for the port to be low on glitches, which appears to be the case (I don't see people complaining of glitches, just everything else). Since people have already modded out much of the bad stuff, I'll probably grab it at some point.

 

[Rumpsteak]

To be fair, the need to use a peripheral control device isn't new to PC games. The ability to use many different input devices to get different levels of success has been one of the strengths of the PC has it not.

Edit: Ninja'd by Dexter up there.

 

[Thatrocketeer]

Eh, it's actually pretty funny seeing all these people defend a shitty cash in port. What's more is that some of these people will actually rage at developers for making a shitty cash in port in other games. The hypocrisy is just too sweet.

 

[Bricky]

Since your complaint seems to be entirely related to controlls i'd advice getting a controller. If you already own a console you can just connect their controller.

The game was made for controllers/console originally so sadly Keyboard and mouse don't suit it well.

but that is the point, why would you sell a game that is not adapted properly to the keyboard????

Because people demanded they release it for the pc, which their publisher forced them to with a short deadline and with no prior experience.

A keyboard was never the optimal input device for action rpgs such as these. The good thing about a pc is, you can use whatever input device you want with it. I personally do own a ps3 and a xbox as well, so i just used the Xbox controller. I don't see why i should force myself to play everything with a keyboard. It might be great for a few genres, but nothing is perfect.

With a controller it's at least as good as the console version.

Although I agree with most of your points i have one question. Why does everyone keep saying that From Software have no experience with developing for the PC? A quick search on steam shows that they developed a game called Ninja Blade that was released in 2009 and published by ND + bitComposer Games.

I know it didn't get reviewed very well, but they still have experience with the PC? Or is it a different part of their development team that made Dark Souls?

 

[Lovely Mixture]

Someone explain to me where 'highly-rated by many people who have enjoyed it' becomes 'over-rated'?

Yeah really. It was acclaimed on consoles and sold well on PC with mixed reception, hardly overrated.

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Damn Dexter, you really are the voice of reason where-ever you go (I say this with 100% seriousness BTW).

 

[00slash00]

dear op: are you serious?

first of all, a game pad is as vital to pc gaming as the joystick was back in the 90s. if your playing a game that was designed for a controller and cant play it because all you have is a keyboard, its kind of your fault.

it was your other point that really annoyed me though. your claim that dark souls never should have come to pc. why did they bring dark souls to pc, you ask? because of you and the numerous other pc gamers who begged and petitioned for a pc port. now that its here all i see are people complaining about how its not a superior version or about how controls designed for a controller dont work on a keyboard. as a pc gamer, i am very happy we got the port at all. do i wish we had better graphics and smoother performance than the console version? of course, but after all the effort we put in to get this port in the first place, im not going to turn around and say "fuck you, the port isnt good enough and this game sucks." its attitudes like this that make pc gamers come off as elitist, arrogant, whiny assholes. its why console gamers hate us and part of the reason companies dont like developing for us (though piracy is obviously the bigger issue there). im not saying we should accept mediocrity, but we should be at least a little gracious when companies are willing to listen to fans and provide us with a game we want.

 

[hazabaza1]

Devs said that the PC version would be bad. Should have waited for it to go down in price, sucks to be you.

 

[shrekfan246]

That's a real interesting tale, old bean.

It has already been established quite thoroughly the the port is garbage mate, and I'd have to say biggest piece of over-rated garbage ever is not a fitting title.

More a "shitty port you should really get for console because it's actually a pretty solid game on one of those systems."

Actually, as long as you get the mod that unlocks the resolution and play with a controller, the port is pretty good. It's stable, plays just as well or slightly better than the console version, and looks more crisp because while the application-implemented anti-aliasing sucks and doesn't work properly with aforementioned mod, it supports forced AA through whatever graphics control panel your card has, which is more than I can say for Darksiders 2. I've made it to Anor Londo without any issues whatsoever, and it's actually had less crashes than quite a few 'good' ports (as in, it hasn't crashed on me once in over 20 hours of gameplay).

 

[StriderShinryu]

Someone explain to me where 'highly-rated by many people who have enjoyed it' becomes 'over-rated'?

It's very simple actually. When the majority opinion does not perfectly coincide with the opinion of the poster, then the majority is clearly wrong and their rating is over what it should be (aka over what the poster would rate it).

 

[Darkmantle]

Eh, it's actually pretty funny seeing all these people defend a shitty cash in port. What's more is that some of these people will actually rage at developers for making a shitty cash in port in other games. The hypocrisy is just too sweet.

Except it's not a cash grab port. They were not going to port it at all because they KNEW they were going to fuck it up. They TOLD all these PC gamers signing the petitions that if they did do a port it was going to be subpar. And the PC gamers said they want it anyway.

But then they got EXACTLY what was promised to them, and they complain like you just stole their candy. FS fucking warned you, you can't cry foul now.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

There's really no excuse for not using one for a game DESIGNED with one in mind.

*spins around a ball peen hammer*

Sure there is. Just like there are people out there who find using MK+B uncomfortable there are also people who find using controllers uncomfortable... and not the "I'm unfamiliar with this so I won't try' uncomfortable but the 'if I keep at this I will be in pain' sort of uncomfortable.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

You obviously haven't followed the development of this game at all. They SAID it would be a shit port and that they had no fucking idea of what they were doing. Also: you said that all the core things were good and all you complained about is easily fixed by GETTING A GAMEPAD. Yes, I know, the lack of keyboard support is utter balls and worse than I was expecting it to be, making it so that I gotta wait till I go Stateside in a couple of months to actually get to play it.
Also: "Next gen Skyrim."
How the fuck can it be a "next gen" Skyrim if it was RELEASED BEFORE Skyrim?
Edit:

Eh, it's actually pretty funny seeing all these people defend a shitty cash in port. What's more is that some of these people will actually rage at developers for making a shitty cash in port in other games. The hypocrisy is just too sweet.

Not sure you knew this, but the only reason this port exists is because there was a petition from PC gamers for it to be made. The devs said the port would be godawful, but people said it was OK. Its not a cash-in if it exists because of a petition from the people who are complaining about it being a cash-in.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

But all that is besides the point, which is that the port is pretty bad. This is pretty much an objective fact. There are good ports, there are adequate ports and there are bad ports (and then there's Resident Evil 4, but that's another story). I am not saying Dark Souls is a bad game (or that it's a good game), I'm saying that the PC version was ported poorly. Reasons can be clearly listed, from bad controls, inadequate visual prompts all the way to a lack of basic graphical options.

I guess having a rather optimal setup made me overlook some of the flaws.

In that case i'd only recommend it for people who already have a 360 controller or who don't mind spending 10?-20? on one.

Personally, I prefer the PS3 controller. Demon's Souls was a PS3 exclusive and Dark Souls seems to be designed with that controller in mind.

 

[TrevHead]

To be fair, the need to use a peripheral control device isn't new to PC games. The ability to use many different input devices to get different levels of success has been one of the strengths of the PC has it not.

That's the crazy thing isn't it, back in the day when plane / space sims and mech warrior was all the rage, anybody ranting on about these games playing shit with a K&M would have been laughed at by the rest of the PC gaming community and told to get a joystick.

I don't know if it's because PC gamers rallying to the clarion call of m&k due to the console FPS banging on the gates or the fact some can't understand the difference between a WRPG and a console 3rd person ARPG which is designed around the pad, but it's strange that so many PC gamers only use m&k for everything while consoles have a ton of different peripherals and gamers who are willing to use them.

 

[RJ 17]

Personally I'd say that Dark Souls, in general, is the biggest piece of over-hyped garbage ever.

Buuuuuuuuuut that's coming from a guy who concluded the only reason the game was ridiculously difficult is because the mechanics and controls were designed specifically in a way to get you killed a lot.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Personally I'd say that Dark Souls, in general, is the biggest piece of over-hyped garbage ever.

Buuuuuuuuuut that's coming from a guy who concluded the only reason the game was ridiculously difficult is because the mechanics and controls were designed specifically in a way to get you killed a lot.

Could you explain that controls bit? I find Dark Souls to have very tight, responsive controls.

 

[RJ 17]

Personally I'd say that Dark Souls, in general, is the biggest piece of over-hyped garbage ever.

Buuuuuuuuuut that's coming from a guy who concluded the only reason the game was ridiculously difficult is because the mechanics and controls were designed specifically in a way to get you killed a lot.

Could you explain that controls bit? I find Dark Souls to have very tight, responsive controls.

I can't remember what the controls even were. I literally rented it and took it back a few hours later, convinced that the game wasn't just difficult because of hard enemy attack patterns or just making your character take a lot of damage per hit. I remember clearly thinking that the controls were half-way rigged to be awkward and get you killed as a result of it. But it's been wwwaaayyy too long since my couple hours of gameplay (rented it the day it came out for the 360) for me to remember anything specific about the game other than I didn't like it.

But that's why I put that second part into my first post, it was to explain that while I didn't like the game at all, I fully acknowledge that it could very-well be for a BS reason.

 

[Mirroga]

The topic starter has been suspended anyways by this topic. I don't think there's any more reason to judge and decide. But, eh, the fire rose. DESHI BASARA!

On-topic anyways, has anyone actually ever played DMC3 in their PC with keyboards and said to themselves "This plays a lot better here than with a controller." Because if they did, then they wouldn't have problems with Dark Souls PC port.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

I've been playing it with M&K ever since I got it.

I can't afford a gamepad anyway and I'd rather buy a new game than buying one so I'll stick to my trustworthy M&K thank you very much.Now,it took me a while to get used to the controls and remap everything and eventually it payed out..somewhat.

The mouse sensitivity and camera are quite atrocious,but since I am a stubborn bastard I've tried looking passed it and pressed on by continuing to play.

I've enjoyed the game thus far and will continue doing so until the end.

To those that say that it's not possible to play this game on M&K I say you are wrong.

Regarding the Gamepad > M&K debate I can say this.I've been a PC gamer all my life and don't own any consoles.I've been playing with M&K for a very long time and that is my "standard" play style.I don't find it acceptable for any console Action/RPG or even any game for that matter that gets ported to the PC to not have a functional M&K support.

@ Mirroga: Yes,I've played DMC3 with M&K without ever thinking that I needed a controller.

My 2 cents.