Dark Souls isn't hard. It's just impenetrable. Nothing is explained and you have to figure out how it works, and that may involve dying again and again till you figure it out, but once you do you can just cruise through areas and beat the whole game in 10 hours (speedrunners can do under a half hour, but those people are gloriously crazy).Adeptus Aspartem said:Hm, i've always wondered how hard is DS compared to Ninja Gaiden or the easier Binding of Isaac or Super Meat Boy?
How improve?Daystar Clarion said:Poison face darts?
What are you, a fukin kasul?
Get on mah fukin level scrub.
Fair enough, you probably won't get two hours without using some speedrun techniques. Seems like if you were just playing and knew where and what everything was and how to beat them you could do it in ten. But that's not because it's scary hard, just because there's a lot of running around, and fighting bosses takes time without oneshot tricks.Chaosritter said:Two hours? Not really. I know there are a bunch of crazy speed runs, but they all exploited glitches to skip a good part of the game.oldtaku said:Once you do you can just cruise through areas and beat the whole game in 2 hours (speedrunners can do under a half hour, but those people are gloriously crazy).
Huh, that's a suprise. Seeing as i enjoy BoI alot and never felt it was particulary crazy hard. Just takes a few tries to learn the items / enemies but that's true for all the mentioned games (replace enemies with evil sawblades for smb).oldtaku said:Dark Souls isn't hard. It's just impenetrable. Nothing is explained and you have to figure out how it works, and that may involve dying again and again till you figure it out, but once you do you can just cruise through areas and beat the whole game in 2 hours (speedrunners can do under a half hour, but those people are gloriously crazy).
Given that, it's easier than a game that requires constant high level combat technique like Ninja Gaiden. It's also easier than Binding of Isaac because everything is always in the same place and you'll never be screwed by random dungeon. I guess you could sort of compare it to SMB, but it's not nearly as twitchy.
So basically, people are confusing its opacity for difficulty.
not actualy dark souls 2 have aready been beaten in 2 hours 39 mins without using single real glitch (i was watching it from start to end no idea whether or not there is aready faster run. the only thing that can actualy be seen as glitch was pushing one of the early bosses from cliff to cause instant dead and that is actualy more of feature of boss since it takes amazing skill to execute without dying yourself not to forget the boss can be beaten in 2-4 mins without it + the same guy finished dark souls 2 in his second run in 3 hours 22 mins before he had much of an idea for optimal routes)Chaosritter said:Two hours? Not really.oldtaku said:Dark Souls isn't hard. It's just impenetrable. Nothing is explained and you have to figure out how it works, and that may involve dying again and again till you figure it out, but once you do you can just cruise through areas and beat the whole game in 2 hours (speedrunners can do under a half hour, but those people are gloriously crazy).
I know there are a bunch of crazy speed runs, but they all exploited glitches to skip a good part of the game.
Noobest has the currently fastest Any% run at 2:03:50 (can be seen here http://www.twitch.tv/noobest/c/3901965 how do I link properly?)drakonz said:Snip
That a pretty big "if". Because , as we all know, gamers are known for their patience. Hold on while i check my pre-orders for an early access alpha to a game on steam.username sucks said:I think it's very misleading that the Souls games are portrayed as being so difficult. Sure, you'll die, but if you move cautiously and stay focused you can get through just about anything. It doesn't even take any special skills, I have a friend who was introduced to gaming through Dark Souls, and they love it. It just doesn't work if you take the strategy of charging through everything that works in most games.
That "if" is the reason the game is so popular. "Gamer" simply refers to people who play video games. It's the whole reason we have different gameplay genres. Some like the fast paced action of a shooter, some like the strategy in an rts, ect. Saying someone is a gamer doesn't say anything about their personality or traits, just the medium of entertainment they like.krazykidd said:That a pretty big "if". Because , as we all know, gamers are known for their patience. Hold on while i check my pre-orders for an early access alpha to a game on steam.username sucks said:I think it's very misleading that the Souls games are portrayed as being so difficult. Sure, you'll die, but if you move cautiously and stay focused you can get through just about anything. It doesn't even take any special skills, I have a friend who was introduced to gaming through Dark Souls, and they love it. It just doesn't work if you take the strategy of charging through everything that works in most games.
OT: really good point . i really hope they don't get to 6. They'll probably make a reboot at 4 .