Dat mortal kombat review by IGN...

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bl4ckh4wk64

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Every review is biased and subjective opinion. Hell, they gave Mass Effect 2 a 9.7 or something because it was "overly referential." That's bullshit, I started on the second game and I understood everything by reading the codex.
 

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le picklez said:
Tzekelkan said:
I can blame the game for being stuck in the nineties. I hate the nineties. Even seeing a character designed with elements whose origins can be traced in nineties roots makes me puke vomit all over the barf.

See? It's easy. It's about as valid complaint as any. And no, I don't actually hate the nineties.
It doesn't really help the reviewer's original statement if all he has to support the '1992' statement is:"Arthur Gies described it." That's really it. No mention of the graphics before this point. He doesn't even back it up with anything much of anything. And I wouldn't blame you if you hated the nineties anyway.
Maybe he feels it reminds him of the 90'ies. Look, why is this even a debate? Don't like it then you should e-mail him and tell him that he should base it on some facts. Besides maybe he felt he didn't need to back it with facts? Maybe he felt that the average viewer wouldn't care about the art style is from the 90'ies..
 

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FACT: EVERYTHING in IGN is compared to Modern Warfare two, which is like their god. Anything not named MW2 automatically loses 1.5 to 2 points. The only shining light in that cesspool of mediocrity is Matt Fowler and his wrestling wrap up. How good is he? I don't watch wrestling.
 

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IGN seems to do this a lot. It actually took points off of Homefront for (paraphrased) "looking good, but not as good as Uncharted or Crysis." Fucking seriously?
 

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IGN seems to do this a lot. It actually took points off of Homefront for (paraphrased) "looking good, but not as good as Uncharted or Crysis." Fucking seriously?
"Well shit. Ocarina of time is good and all, but god dammit, it is not pretty. If it looked like Crysis it would be good. But it doesen't. 0.3"
 

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No boss should game break. Thats just unnecessary and bad developing. Now what qualifies as game breaking, well, thats subjective.
 

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An 8.8 isn't good enough for you? Hell, I've played games that were rated 4s and found them to be good. In short: Everyone! Listen! REVIEWS DON'T MEAN SHIT! GET OVER YOUR IT! So your favorite game isn't a 12,000,000 out of 10. If you like it, then it is good. There you go, the awnser to every review complaint thread!/Counter-Rant
 

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le picklez said:
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Let's be honest, it upset you because it got an 8/10, which is apparently an F for a triple-A release nowadays. If he gave it a 10/10 and wrote a bunch of pros that were merely unsubstantiated opinions, you would not be complaining
I'm upset because the cons are not cons. If you're going to dislike something give a valid reason. For example: "I don't enjoy call of duty on the xbox because the online community is filled with jerks, making exploits spread like wildfire and cheap tactics widespread." <- See that? That's a legitimate complaint. Not "the art style looks old".
That's not a legitimate complaint at all, you are complaining about the quality of a game based upon it's community rather than the game itself.

That'd be like me saying "Team Fortress 2's combat sucks, the level designs are poor, the sound effects are low quality and it's extremely repetitive, but the online community is really nice so I think it's a great game".

Note: I like the game, it's just an example.
 

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IGN gave Killing Floor a 7. I played 6 hours of it today, with 5 other friends. Reviews are just someone else's opinion, at the end of the day.
 

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le picklez said:
Brawndo said:
Let's be honest, it upset you because it got an 8/10, which is apparently an F for a triple-A release nowadays. If he gave it a 10/10 and wrote a bunch of pros that were merely unsubstantiated opinions, you would not be complaining
I'm upset because the cons are not cons. If you're going to dislike something give a valid reason. For example: "I don't enjoy call of duty on the xbox because the online community is filled with jerks, making exploits spread like wildfire and cheap tactics widespread." <- See that? That's a legitimate complaint. Not "the art style looks old".
Based on your amount of posts I'll give you a heads up on this forum. If you say something about a review I can promise that almost everyone will say "Reviews are subjective". If you think he reviews are unfair this is probably the worst place to say so. You will be called out for stating an opinion as fact.
 

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You could do what most should do in this situation and not care. Reviews don't reflect your taste in games in the least. Hell, they shouldn't even matter. You should rent the game and find out for yourself if you like it. I understand that they're a good guide but they shouldn't be the be-all-end-all.

For example, I'm a huge fan of Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2. By all reviews I shouldn't be.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dynasty-warriors-gundam-2

The same goes for Ar Tonelico 3.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/ar-tonelico-qoga-knell-of-ar-ciel

In short just worry about reviews as a guide, not a deciding opinion. They don't matter as much as you think and a game you like getting bad reviews shouldn't make you rage.
 

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I agree with Tzekelkan, reviews are subjective, and I'll add that so are the people that view these reviews. I don't watch or read a review hoping for good or bad, I generally go in just to get a sense of what other people think. If someone hates a game, i won't blast them for it, they hate the game, and that's their opinion, and in the case of a review it's their opinion (honest ones only) that really matter. Really though, why be upset about an opinion? Unless you're somehow hindered by what another person thinks it shouldn't be an issue.

That's like being angry at someone who thinks Coke is nasty. It's just a soda, some will like it some will not. Why get mad about it? Why watch a review on IGN and get mad if it's not positive or as positive as you think it should be? Better still, would you really want a reviewer evaluating games you were considering spending money on if all they did was appease viewers with softball reviews that, rather than being honest, simply said whatever they thought wold make others happy?
 

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I feel I'm pointing out the obvious when I say:
A: A lot of the costumes etc, while awesomely rendered, do look like awesomely rendered versions of the (still naff) lycra get up the MK cast wore in the 90s, and
B: Have you ever fought a Mortal Kombat boss? Shao Kahn, MK3. An exercise in frustration. Bosses can be difficult, sure, and still fun, but overly hard bosses who your moves just bounce off, and can do things like stunlock you with the same move until they decide to do something else are just frustrating to fight.
While everyone is coming out with the hatespeech IGN has done its best to earn over the years, those are completely legitimate complaints, from my perspective.
 

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Tzekelkan said:
le picklez said:
Which seems really subjective rather than objective.
Reviews are subjective, because Everything is subjective. The fact that they didn't like the style may not have anything to do with your enjoyment of the game. I'd say "anything to do with the objective value of the game", but Everything is subjective.
Pretty much this.

That's why I'd rather read garbage reviews that glowing ones. Then I can see what people are whining about, and see if those issues matter to me or if I've had a similar experience.

Reviews that go on and on about how the game is perfect usually contain FAR more bullshit than the ones that point out flaws.
 

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Ironically, the boss fights were the main reason I despised the Street Fighter Series. Now I've learned to despise based on its features and art design along with some of its normal set of characters
 

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AI-cheating boss fights in games piss me off no end. Especially in fighting and RTS games. You spend hours of your time developing strategic skills in relation to certain situations...and the 'opponent' cheats. The fights should be hard within the rules of the game, and should be about skill, not how much you can spam. It's just lazy design.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
No boss should game break. Thats just unnecessary and bad developing. Now what qualifies as game breaking, well, thats subjective.
So what's your opinion on Galactus then? I thought he should be about what he is. Hard as hell but if you stay calm and remember what the game has taught you up to that point you can beat him. (Just make sure you do it with the character whose ending you want to see, I have seen Caps ending a lot....)

As for MK I'm really surprised to hear that it's graphics on characters are lackluster when I still play MK vs DCU (It's still one of my favorite games actually) partially because it's such a beautiful game and I feel that they did an excellent job on MKing up the DC characters. I would be surprised if this were really a step back in graphics. The cutscenes were especially breathtaking and the story was surprisingly good. It sure made a lot more sense than MvC3 to me.