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A Pious Cultist said:
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I just love the Escapist's tolerance of technical support threads. We need a section for this. Every time I've asked on this forum for some help, it's always been ignored.
I know man, we're so shit not answering any and every thread within 15 minutes *roll eyes*.
You. Just get out. I have already replied to not one, not two, but three of you people today, and if you can't be bothered scrolling down less than a page of comments you should not post.
 

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I can't turn it off under performance options (I already disabled it via command prompt and it's greyed out) and I can't find the exe for the DEP.
Try re enabling it via command prompt and disabling it in the performance area. The problem with Windows (/linuxfanboy) is that one program will cascade others open so manually killing one program may not kill the three or so that are also running. Check your account is the master account before making these changes, just to be sure.

I actually meant the .exe for the program that won't run, it may be a property applied to the program but try that last.

I hate DEP and UAC, there ought to be an "I'm a power user, cut that shit out" button.
There isn't a general "Turn DEP off" button in the performance area, sadly (there's a reason nobody likes Vista). There's one that deactivates it for particular programs and one that only turns it on for integral Windows programs. Neither of these provide a solution to the issue so I'm just going to see if it was just an issue with the game and reinstall it.
 

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MurderousToaster said:
I just love the Escapist's tolerance of technical support threads. We need a section for this. Every time I've asked on this forum for some help, it's always been ignored.
I agree completely with this. We need two more forums: one for game help, one for technical support.
(Partly to make that badge for posting in 10 different forums vaguely achievable)

OT: Is it an issue inherent with Vista? Ie have you tried it with other games?
I can't recommend much but you could try booting up Safe Mode and disabling it that way, or running JKA through Safe Mode... I don't know, honestly.
You do realize that to get that badge, you need to post on the Escapist's Sister site right?

http://www.warcry.com/

Post a couple times here, and come back. If you don't get it right away, then you should get it tomorrow.

As for the idea of seperate forums, no. This would probably get a lot more answers if it was in Gaming Discussion over Off-topic. Technical Support falls under Gaming discussion in my opinion. As for help, well you'd have to be more specific then that.

As for your problem Murderous Toaster, I can't really help you. I wish I could, but I don't own the game, nor have I run into a similar problem.
 

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Right there. If JKA is still crashing when you have it set to only integral programs, than something is seriously wrong. A lot of older games just can't run because of the way Vista and Windows 7 are set up because they require functions that are no longer supported - example is Final Fantasy VIII.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
tomtom94 said:
MurderousToaster said:
I just love the Escapist's tolerance of technical support threads. We need a section for this. Every time I've asked on this forum for some help, it's always been ignored.
I agree completely with this. We need two more forums: one for game help, one for technical support.
(Partly to make that badge for posting in 10 different forums vaguely achievable)

OT: Is it an issue inherent with Vista? Ie have you tried it with other games?
I can't recommend much but you could try booting up Safe Mode and disabling it that way, or running JKA through Safe Mode... I don't know, honestly.
You do realize that to get that badge, you need to post on the Escapist's Sister site right?

http://www.warcry.com/

Post a couple times here, and come back. If you don't get it right away, then you should get it tomorrow.
That's my point - what's the point of having a 10 forums badge if we don't have 10 outright forums right here on the Escapist?
Just sayin'.
 

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tomtom94 said:
maddawg IAJI said:
tomtom94 said:
MurderousToaster said:
I just love the Escapist's tolerance of technical support threads. We need a section for this. Every time I've asked on this forum for some help, it's always been ignored.
I agree completely with this. We need two more forums: one for game help, one for technical support.
(Partly to make that badge for posting in 10 different forums vaguely achievable)

OT: Is it an issue inherent with Vista? Ie have you tried it with other games?
I can't recommend much but you could try booting up Safe Mode and disabling it that way, or running JKA through Safe Mode... I don't know, honestly.
You do realize that to get that badge, you need to post on the Escapist's Sister site right?

http://www.warcry.com/

Post a couple times here, and come back. If you don't get it right away, then you should get it tomorrow.
That's my point - what's the point of having a 10 forums badge if we don't have 10 outright forums right here on the Escapist?
Just sayin'.
:/ So you can get more people to go to the site owned by the same company. Its not rocket science. That's why they have the video badges. So people will watch the stuff they wouldn't normally watch.
 

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To all of your questions apart from the last one, no.

I have an ATI video card, yes, but I've been able to run JKA fine until recently whereby it would crash and then it would tell me that DEP had closed it as a security risk.[/quote]

In that case, something has changed with your windows during that time. I assume you've done a full viral scan with the scanner set to scan everything.

Have you updated your video card drivers at some point, without trying JKA afterwards and are only now noticing a problem?

Do you by any chance have a system recovery point from a time you know JKA worked? A system update might not have installed correctly, leading to DEP going haywire.

I am seriously thinking your DEP module of Vista is somehow damaged.
 

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Right there. If JKA is still crashing when you have it set to only integral programs, than something is seriously wrong. A lot of older games just can't run because of the way Vista and Windows 7 are set up because they require functions that are no longer supported - example is Final Fantasy VIII.
That doesn't work. Several people have already told me that (alongside me finding it myself), and setting it to only integral programs or adding it to the ignore list doesn't work. Also, JKA DID work before. This isn't an issue with a game I've just installed - I've had it installed and working for about a year.
 

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MurderousToaster said:
Bobzer77 said:
MurderousToaster said:
I just love the Escapist's tolerance of technical support threads. We need a section for this. Every time I've asked on this forum for some help, it's always been ignored.
I think your problem there is that you assume a bunch of people on the internet are waiting fervently to solve any problem you have as soon as you post it.

Try asking on the games support forum if you want that service, if not be happy when someone has the time to answer you.

Also as far as I knew the Escapist wasn't created as a tech support forum...
I think your problem is that you don't understand that if someone has used a website for a fairly long time and considers it a trusted source of information and that it also has intelligent members they'll consult it first before going to the trouble of creating an account on an entirely different site. Also, I have already explained to two other people that the reason I was complaining about the general tolerance levels of tech support threads on this site is because I've seen tech support threads sink, some mine, a lot of the time.
So what? Whats wrong with them sinking? I agree that this is a great site with a community who probably want to help but it's not their problem if they can't or they don't want to. You can't just expect random people on the internet to have the answer to your problem. Be grateful if they do but don't whine if your thread sinks into oblivion, if you want definite support stop being lazy and register on the games tech support forum.
 

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Bobzer77 said:
MurderousToaster said:
Bobzer77 said:
MurderousToaster said:
I just love the Escapist's tolerance of technical support threads. We need a section for this. Every time I've asked on this forum for some help, it's always been ignored.
I think your problem there is that you assume a bunch of people on the internet are waiting fervently to solve any problem you have as soon as you post it.

Try asking on the games support forum if you want that service, if not be happy when someone has the time to answer you.

Also as far as I knew the Escapist wasn't created as a tech support forum...
I think your problem is that you don't understand that if someone has used a website for a fairly long time and considers it a trusted source of information and that it also has intelligent members they'll consult it first before going to the trouble of creating an account on an entirely different site. Also, I have already explained to two other people that the reason I was complaining about the general tolerance levels of tech support threads on this site is because I've seen tech support threads sink, some mine, a lot of the time.
So what? Whats wrong with them sinking? I agree that this is a great site with a community who probably want to help but it's not their problem if they can't or they don't want to. You can't just expect random people on the internet to have the answer to your problem. Be grateful if they do but don't whine if your thread sinks into oblivion, if you want definite support stop being lazy and register on the games tech support forum.
I'm sorry if asking for help and then getting annoyed because nobody helped me with the issue that I've been tearing my fucking hair out over for three hours. I'm sorry if this bothers you, and I'm sorry if it affects you personally. I don't see why you feel compelled to contribute nothing but irritation to a thread, but that's your choice.
 

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MurderousToaster said:
Bobzer77 said:
MurderousToaster said:
Bobzer77 said:
MurderousToaster said:
I just love the Escapist's tolerance of technical support threads. We need a section for this. Every time I've asked on this forum for some help, it's always been ignored.
I think your problem there is that you assume a bunch of people on the internet are waiting fervently to solve any problem you have as soon as you post it.

Try asking on the games support forum if you want that service, if not be happy when someone has the time to answer you.

Also as far as I knew the Escapist wasn't created as a tech support forum...
I think your problem is that you don't understand that if someone has used a website for a fairly long time and considers it a trusted source of information and that it also has intelligent members they'll consult it first before going to the trouble of creating an account on an entirely different site. Also, I have already explained to two other people that the reason I was complaining about the general tolerance levels of tech support threads on this site is because I've seen tech support threads sink, some mine, a lot of the time.
So what? Whats wrong with them sinking? I agree that this is a great site with a community who probably want to help but it's not their problem if they can't or they don't want to. You can't just expect random people on the internet to have the answer to your problem. Be grateful if they do but don't whine if your thread sinks into oblivion, if you want definite support stop being lazy and register on the games tech support forum.
I'm sorry if asking for help and then getting annoyed because nobody helped me with the issue that I've been tearing my fucking hair out over for three hours. I'm sorry if this bothers you, and I'm sorry if it affects you personally. I don't see why you feel compelled to contribute nothing but irritation to a thread, but that's your choice.
Wow hypocrite much?

I had no problem with you asking for help but when you moaned in your bump that no one was helping you that was irritating.
 

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Bobzer77 said:
MurderousToaster said:
Bobzer77 said:
MurderousToaster said:
Bobzer77 said:
MurderousToaster said:
I just love the Escapist's tolerance of technical support threads. We need a section for this. Every time I've asked on this forum for some help, it's always been ignored.
I think your problem there is that you assume a bunch of people on the internet are waiting fervently to solve any problem you have as soon as you post it.

Try asking on the games support forum if you want that service, if not be happy when someone has the time to answer you.

Also as far as I knew the Escapist wasn't created as a tech support forum...
I think your problem is that you don't understand that if someone has used a website for a fairly long time and considers it a trusted source of information and that it also has intelligent members they'll consult it first before going to the trouble of creating an account on an entirely different site. Also, I have already explained to two other people that the reason I was complaining about the general tolerance levels of tech support threads on this site is because I've seen tech support threads sink, some mine, a lot of the time.
So what? Whats wrong with them sinking? I agree that this is a great site with a community who probably want to help but it's not their problem if they can't or they don't want to. You can't just expect random people on the internet to have the answer to your problem. Be grateful if they do but don't whine if your thread sinks into oblivion, if you want definite support stop being lazy and register on the games tech support forum.
I'm sorry if asking for help and then getting annoyed because nobody helped me with the issue that I've been tearing my fucking hair out over for three hours. I'm sorry if this bothers you, and I'm sorry if it affects you personally. I don't see why you feel compelled to contribute nothing but irritation to a thread, but that's your choice.
Wow hypocrite much?

I had no problem with you asking for help but when you moaned in your bump that no one was helping you that was irritating.
The idea with my bump was to stop the thread from going onto the second page of Off-Topic, after which it would be completely gone and nobody would post in it at all. If you've never experienced frustration in your life (in which case you live an utterly blessed life), I'll tell you right now that when you're as frustrated as I was (at the level of having to reattach my space key to the keyboard from thumping) patience is something that goes straight out the window alongside politeness. 20 minutes seems like an age when you're in a rage over the incompetency of Vista.
 

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All right, I'll try google'ing it for ye. I don't own the game but you are obviously upset. It would have been easier if you had posted your specs though.

1.) Have you tried turning it off and on again? :D

2.) Have you tried running it in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

3.) Have you tried running it from CDDRIVE:\autorun.exe?

4.) Have you tried updating you drivers?

5.) Have you tried rolling back your drivers?

5.) Do you have a virus- or malware-infection?

6.) Have you tried 800x600?

7.) Have you tried running as administrator?

8.) Is the game patched and up to date?

9.) Have you tried this?
Dominick O'Dierno Says:
May 26, 2008 at 11:56 pm | Reply

I?m sure you may have got the game running by now. But I fixed teh OpenGL problem by using GLDirect:

Download and install GLDirect. It makes OpenGL games use DirectX instead.

You may need to download DirectX 9. Don?t worry, it won?t mess with any of your Direct X 10 stuff.

Make sure that GLDirect has rendering set to your Video card rather than software rendering.

Here is the link. ftp://ftp.scitechsoft.com/gld

After install, click the free-gldirect-code.txt. It has the free registration info on it. The product used to be shareware, now they have released it for free. Got Jedi Academy running on Vista with this.

10.) This?
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April 12, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Reply

Ok? I have a sony Vaio Laptop..running Vista, Installed JKA .. worked fine?

I could only see one server so I downloaded the JKA 101 patch? Launched JKA multiplayer.. failed to work?with the openGL error as per mentioned, I read this forum and tryed a number of things? Here is how I got it to work

Located the JKA folder with in Program files? Right click on ?jamp?

Properties ? Compatibility

THEN
Ticked ALL THE BOXS

(tick)Run this program in compatibility mode for ?windows XP (service pack 2)
(tick) Run in 256 colours
(tick) Run in 640 X 480
(tick) Disable Visual themes
(tick)disable desktop composition
(tick)Disable display scaling on high DPI settings

Privilege level
(tick)Run this program as an administrator..

Made a shortcut from the file to the desktop after clicking these settings..
bang ? bobs yur?.auntie

11.) This?
Perfectus Says:
November 25, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Reply

Solution = (at least for me and 3 of my friends)

I have found that bypassing splash screen and or desktop shortcut works in many cases on several old games i have wished to play on vista.
so?
open up your installation folder eg: program files/lucas arts/jedi academy/game data: there are 2 exe files here
?jamp?=multiplayer
?jasp?= single player

go to properties on which ever you are trying to get to work and run in compatibility mode for xp AND run as administrator.

Voila!! retro gaming action for all.
Enjoy

12.) Or this?
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Wink Try this!
I have an idea. You will need to reinstall the game for this. When you want to install the game again , close that splash screen (JA launcher , you know what I mean) , go to My Computer , right click on your CD (DVD) drive icon , select "Open" , go to "GameData" folder , right click on "Setup.exe" file , go to "Compatibility" tab and set compatibility with Win 98 or XP. Since I don`t have Vista , this procedure may be slightly different on your computer , but you get the general idea. Click "OK" then doubleclick that "Setup.exe" file. When the installation completes , restart OS. Then go to your LucasArts / JA folder and set the same compatibility on all .exe files you find. That should solve your problem , but don`t be surprised if it doesn`t. Vista is still quite buggy and game unfriendly , so there may be no solution for your problem at all. Try my suggestion and inform me about a resoult.

I hope I helped you. Bye.

13.) Have you tried turning it off and on again again?

I don't know if any of this work. I barely remember the actual game and have never owned it.
 

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Hey I got your fix I spent months looking for the fix bc i missed playing jka MP so much. i finally found it. First go here and download the ATI 10.4 display drivers uninstall current display drivers and install the 10.4 version. This is for windows vista/7 64 bit version. There is a 32bit version available for download if thats what you have. Direct link below.

http://www.oldapps.com/ati.php?old_ati_drivers=114 (Catalyst control center version 10.4 display drivers)

Ok here's the fix for version 10.4 display drivers. Only involves replacing one file within the 10.4 display driver folder. After you have installed the 10.4 version, click on the link below to download this one file named "atioglxx.dll". Run a search for the file "atioglxx.dll" if you can't find it. All your doin is replacing the current 10.4 version atioglxx.dll file with this one. Below is a direct link for the 10.4 version fixed atioglxx.dll file. Copy paste and your done. Good luck.

http://www.filefront.com/17248996/atioglxx10_4.rar/ (ATI 10.4 Drivers File) <-- the fixed file in version 10.4
 

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It's not a DEP problem, its a problem related to ati drivers... Disabling the DEP doesn't work as noted above!