Day-One DLC Files Appear on Mass Effect 3 Discs
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i don't think the shit storm for ME3 is 'a brewin' any more, pretty sure its in full effect now, this will only fan the flamesgigastar said:On disc DLC files in Mass Effect 3?
And its only going to get worse when Zeel comes back.
Why are people surprised by anything EA-Bioware does? They're a bunch of greedy assholes and will do these things to make sure they get the most money from you by doing the least amount of work, then complain you're the problem when you tell them they're assholes for doing it.
Well I'll be god damned...looks like I've a large platter of crow to start eating since I was one of the one's defending Bioware's side of the story...if the character's assets actually were on the disc then I was most assuredly mistaken to give them the benefit of the doubt.
To be fair, though, downloading the character is a full download...one would think that if all you were doing was unlocking the character's data on the disc itself, it wouldn't take 5 to 10 minutes to download.
To be fair, though, downloading the character is a full download...one would think that if all you were doing was unlocking the character's data on the disc itself, it wouldn't take 5 to 10 minutes to download.
About the article, not surprised in the slightest as it was too good of a marketing move and easy way to make cash not to take it. What mass effect fan worth his/her salt will pass over a prothean team mate?
But that's not why I'm posting.
Rather am posting to say I love the style in which the article was written, neutral and without obvious biases from the author. Certain choices of terms like brouhaha amongst certain groups of gamers surprised me as I know certain other news writers wouldn't have been so diplomatic and would have instead gleefully injected their own viewpoints in their news articles. Though a fair amount of escapists seem to eat it all up, I find its rather poisonous and unprofessional.
So yeh nice article.
But that's not why I'm posting.
Rather am posting to say I love the style in which the article was written, neutral and without obvious biases from the author. Certain choices of terms like brouhaha amongst certain groups of gamers surprised me as I know certain other news writers wouldn't have been so diplomatic and would have instead gleefully injected their own viewpoints in their news articles. Though a fair amount of escapists seem to eat it all up, I find its rather poisonous and unprofessional.
So yeh nice article.
Nothing wrong with being wrong if you recognize your mistakes at the end of the dayRJ 17 said:
Is it weird that I assume all day 1 DLC is on the disc? I tend to unless told otherwise. So I'm not 'shocked' with project $10 out there having it on the disc is a time saving step for developers I'd think.
That makes me no less irritated by this skeezy practice.
That makes me no less irritated by this skeezy practice.
I'm not surprised by anything any more, stuff like this just keeps constantly turning me off from modern gaming. I never played any of the mass effect games so to be honest I don't care, I don't buy DLC unless its for things like littlebigplanet where I get some cool outfits or level packs. But stuff already on the disc I paid the 60 bucks for and gotta pay more to get that's not even important is bullshit. Abusing the DLC idea for shit like this is just horrible, it makes people angry, not excited to buy your game but you still insist on doing it. Where is all the money going to when we pay for these games? I want to know, they should follow Extra Credit's advice. Make games 40 bucks at launch and then charge 20 bucks for the DLC/Online codes, they'll get their money and we'll be happy to pay for that much since the game was so cheap.
I just hope it doesn't get much more worse from here, are they gonna rip out the real important things and make us pay 10 bucks to see cutscenes or some shit?
I just hope it doesn't get much more worse from here, are they gonna rip out the real important things and make us pay 10 bucks to see cutscenes or some shit?
Yay! I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembered that. The 'From Ashes' dlc was announced ages ago - Bioware said they were developing dlc with an extra character. This was obviously planned during development of the main game. So I'm not surprised that there are some files relevant to the dlc on the disc for the main game. This isn't proof that game content has been locked out on the main disc. It's only proof that the dlc was planned alongside development of the main game. I will wait for someone to successfully access the 'From Ashes' dlc from the disc without an additional download before I throw my dummy put of the pram.Irridium said:
This isn't even Project $10. That was a way of making money from people who buy used games.ace_of_something said:
This is Project FuttBuckery.
... which is funny when Bioware then comes out and states that they only started work on From Ashes after Mass Effect 3 went gold.Simonoly said:
HMM.
I have to wonder, what's next for Bioware? If gamers didn't feel compelled to buy this game due to it being part of a trilogy, it would have crashed immensely from the sheer amount of bad press.
Mass Effect ends on a sour note. Dragon Age is dropped off a cliff. The Old Republic.. probably not as bad but it's not the game most of us wanted. What's their next franchise? And how can they expect us to be on board when they have done so much shady, abusive things to us in all their other series?
This really looking to be the last hurrah from Bioware. From here on they'll just be like Maxis, what's left of them being exploited to such a disgusting degree that it puts Zynga to shame. As someone who once put Bioware as his favorite developer, this all really hurts to say.
I don't know what it will take for EA to start caring more about the customers than their shareholders, but so many good developers have already been driven through the mud over the last 15 years.
Mass Effect ends on a sour note. Dragon Age is dropped off a cliff. The Old Republic.. probably not as bad but it's not the game most of us wanted. What's their next franchise? And how can they expect us to be on board when they have done so much shady, abusive things to us in all their other series?
This really looking to be the last hurrah from Bioware. From here on they'll just be like Maxis, what's left of them being exploited to such a disgusting degree that it puts Zynga to shame. As someone who once put Bioware as his favorite developer, this all really hurts to say.
I don't know what it will take for EA to start caring more about the customers than their shareholders, but so many good developers have already been driven through the mud over the last 15 years.
Which they probably did. Sure there was beginning concepts of it well before the DLC process began, that content was probably cut with shreds of it left in the game.Loop Stricken said:
It could be the conspiracy everyone's making it out to be but content starting to be worked on can be cut mid-production and end up as DLC. I see no problem here unless the entirety of the character's arc is on the disk and locked like the speculators rage at.
Yea, I thought this had been an issue for a while.Loop Stricken said:
At least it seems like even the fanboys are getting fed up with this crap.
The question is will sales suffer enough to stop publishers from carving out game content as "bonus" stuff. I'm thinking probably no.
I'm curious as to how much they will get away with before they have to pull back. Endings being sold separately?
See, the haters are still the ones overreacting compared to the fanboys over protecting.GonzoGamer said:
Game production takes a lot of time and isn't set in stone. The script only proves to me that he was an idea at one point but then was cut due to deadline constraints. Every developer (except Valve) has deadlines to keep in order to keep making games, if you can't fit it in the game it gets cut.
It's most likely that the character was getting into production and was one of the much later things cut leaving plenty of work done on the character left useless until they could finish it up after it went gold. Pieces of that unfinished work easily could show up on the disk.
Until someone can confirm that the content about the character on the disk is exactly the worst case scenario of fully, polished, playable content locked on the disk which would be perfectly functional otherwise... It's still overreacting and jumping to conclusions because this entire game has been surrounded by people just dying for reasons to hate Bioware jumping to conclusions.
I really just don't care anymore, I have already gotten my monies worth ten times over from how much time I put into the demo let alone how much I will put into the retail game. They obviously planned this DLC out sometime during the development, my money is on that they just couldnt finish it in time and so just made it DLC. Having done the mission I can say the content is just a fun bonus and not really essential to the overall experience, very much like Zaeed.
Sure, they could have integrated his plot into the story and made him more way more relevant but I think it would have been too huge a stretch that this last Prothean just happens to be a great scientist, who just happens to find his way after 50k years right into Shepards hands at the right time.
Sure, they could have integrated his plot into the story and made him more way more relevant but I think it would have been too huge a stretch that this last Prothean just happens to be a great scientist, who just happens to find his way after 50k years right into Shepards hands at the right time.
Hmm..if this is true, that is really shitty of them. They outright lied to the public..."oh well golly gee, From Ashes was started after the main game went gold, but wouldn't you know it the DLC folks worked so diligently that it will be day-1 DLC." They obviously had it completed before the game went gold and decided to sucker people into adding an extra $10 to the purchase price. From what I've seen, the DLC is not absolutely important to Shepard's 'quest', but it is filled with A LOT of lore directly related to the main conflict of the plot.
If the pirates can create a crack to unlock all the content on the disc which I paid for, I will definintely consider taking advantage, fuck these scheming bastards...just as I will be using a no-Origin crack once it becomes available.
To the people who just shrug as say "I don't care, derp, I wouldn't care if the original price tag was $70, derp, I don't care if the company bends me over and rapes the shit out of me, derp", YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! YOU ARE THE REASON WHY GAMING IS TURNING INTO MASS-PRODUCED BULLSHIT DESIGNED TO SQUEEZE EVERY RED CENT OUT OF THE CONSUMER...fuck you.
If the pirates can create a crack to unlock all the content on the disc which I paid for, I will definintely consider taking advantage, fuck these scheming bastards...just as I will be using a no-Origin crack once it becomes available.
To the people who just shrug as say "I don't care, derp, I wouldn't care if the original price tag was $70, derp, I don't care if the company bends me over and rapes the shit out of me, derp", YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! YOU ARE THE REASON WHY GAMING IS TURNING INTO MASS-PRODUCED BULLSHIT DESIGNED TO SQUEEZE EVERY RED CENT OUT OF THE CONSUMER...fuck you.