Death to E3!
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I truely agree. Didn't hear about Assasins Creed 2 trailer for like 3 days. Then I saw it, and Fangasm'd
want to know how to make E3 better? MAKE IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC!!! now we only get to watch demos and decide to buy or not if we could get people into E3 and try demos they can decide better which really do you buy a game you saw on tv being played or one that you tried and know is good, at least sell tickets!
I sometimes wonder if writers like Shamus Young are a dying breed--those who truly grasp and love crisp exposition, surgical-precision analysis, flawless introductions, themes and transitions.
Within the massive mob of cloyingly unfunny and clearly thoughtless works here on the Escapist, there exists a number of truly awe-inspiring creators: Andy Chalk (in his analysis of video game narratives in "You Can't Be the Hero if You're the Rapist"), Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (his Zero Punctuation reviews are an exercise in the adroit manipulation of verbal cues, syntax and diction) and Susan Arendt (who provides consistent, unrelenting yet academically uplifting humor in her reviews). These people, these truly adept thinkers, give me reason to believe that video games are more than products of consumer culture--video gamers like Shamus Young assure me that Video Games are far beyond the temporal framework of commercial consumption.
That the world of video games and video gamers may possibly be the incontestable products of human ingenuity, rationality and development.
Within the massive mob of cloyingly unfunny and clearly thoughtless works here on the Escapist, there exists a number of truly awe-inspiring creators: Andy Chalk (in his analysis of video game narratives in "You Can't Be the Hero if You're the Rapist"), Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (his Zero Punctuation reviews are an exercise in the adroit manipulation of verbal cues, syntax and diction) and Susan Arendt (who provides consistent, unrelenting yet academically uplifting humor in her reviews). These people, these truly adept thinkers, give me reason to believe that video games are more than products of consumer culture--video gamers like Shamus Young assure me that Video Games are far beyond the temporal framework of commercial consumption.
That the world of video games and video gamers may possibly be the incontestable products of human ingenuity, rationality and development.
Liked the article, but "A half million"?
I work in the exhibition business and let me tell you, those booths at E3 ( the ones for the major players) from what I saw in the vids, are A LOT more expensive then that. Half a million will probably buy you the floor space for some of these booths, and just that. And those huge led screen walls are expensive, trust me.
It's probably about triple that, from 1.5 and higher depending on how crazy the booth is.
I work in the exhibition business and let me tell you, those booths at E3 ( the ones for the major players) from what I saw in the vids, are A LOT more expensive then that. Half a million will probably buy you the floor space for some of these booths, and just that. And those huge led screen walls are expensive, trust me.
It's probably about triple that, from 1.5 and higher depending on how crazy the booth is.
As soon as they let Nintendo showcase their latest Wii crap it meant the end of E3, hell, if it weren't for Microsoft and Sony(and i don't like microsoft much) E3 woud have had this verdict handed to them alot sooner, of course the article does point out that gaming magazines and websites have almost made E3 obsolete long live the good gaming companies.
I agree, I mean sure there are somethigns they drag on about or whatever, but if that bothers you, just ignore E3.loremazd said:
Honestly shamus all i ever see your articlas about are just simply complaining about what bother you.
What's this E3 you are talking about?
Not being serious of course, but I don't follow it either, so that would mean I'm not a hard core gamer. I pick up bits and pieces of posts on this website, but that's it.
If the world would be better without an E3? Well it would make gaming land a bit more bland perhaps. Surely the developers need a good week of party, booze and whore's to blow off some steam from all the hard work. All the sensation around them makes them feel important, which is I suppose not a good thing at all.
I am undecided.
Not being serious of course, but I don't follow it either, so that would mean I'm not a hard core gamer. I pick up bits and pieces of posts on this website, but that's it.
If the world would be better without an E3? Well it would make gaming land a bit more bland perhaps. Surely the developers need a good week of party, booze and whore's to blow off some steam from all the hard work. All the sensation around them makes them feel important, which is I suppose not a good thing at all.
I am undecided.
I liked it, until I found out it's only about half as long as the first game and you're bombarded with annoying support characters. I mean I beat the game and all but then I traded it in.Barry93 said:
Why does E3 need to die? I mean sure they hype up games but it's your fault you buy/play them. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just a convention for gaming like there's star wars/star trek conventions. If you don't like it then don't pay attention to it, it's that simple. E3 can stay as long as it wants, it's not harming anyone or anything. Stop bitching how you got hyped up over a game because of E3, it's celebrating/promoting games, they're doing their job. Hey if you got hyped over a game, it worked! Is that so surprising?
You could always read the article I wrote, and write a rebuttal for that one. Also, could you provide a link to the article you're talking about? If someone wrote about how hyping up games is bad I'd like to read it.rockingnic said:
Thanks.
Oh, and because people are evidently stopping halfway through the article and missing the last two lines:
I'm not REALLY suggesting E3 should die. I'm suggesting that the smaller developers should stop wasting money on it. (For them, the entry fee is a hefty price, and they just don't get much attention, if any.) The last line of the article should make it pretty clear that the thing is crazy, expensive, and chaotic, but it's not all bad.
I'm not REALLY suggesting E3 should die. I'm suggesting that the smaller developers should stop wasting money on it. (For them, the entry fee is a hefty price, and they just don't get much attention, if any.) The last line of the article should make it pretty clear that the thing is crazy, expensive, and chaotic, but it's not all bad.
I was actually talking about how getting a game hyped up so you're persuaded to buy it before you know when it's good or bad. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm not saying it's good either. I'm just saying E3 is pure marketing, there's nothing more to it. And I'm not referring to your article either.Shamus Young said:
Interesting. I haven't been around a trade show booth since my company had one in the dot-com days, and I had to guess at how much that one cost.asiepshtain said:
1.5 mil? Man, that could buy a lot of playtesting and polish. It would be interesting to look back for games that failed due to budget shortfall or buggy launches, and see if any of them had a booth at E3.
E3 is where the big guys come to show off the latest and greatest tech.
E3 is the hype machine that keeps the gamers running.
E3 is about dreams only money can make.
E3 is what keeps me gaming.
E3 keeps me dreaming
and innovating.
I had lost faith getting dream job in games when e3 went dull. But when E3 came back, and went live on the internet, I started to dream again.
E3 is the hype machine that keeps the gamers running.
E3 is about dreams only money can make.
E3 is what keeps me gaming.
E3 keeps me dreaming
and innovating.
I had lost faith getting dream job in games when e3 went dull. But when E3 came back, and went live on the internet, I started to dream again.
Didn't they try getting rid of E3 a couple years back? I think one year they tried to just "tone it down a bit" and focused it more on developers than consumers, but instead all of the hype just got redirected to other conventions like PAX and Leipzeig.
I think E3 is a great thing for the industry, it heightens the competition between developers and the big three manufacturers, which leads to a lot more innovation than we would have otherwise.
I think E3 is a great thing for the industry, it heightens the competition between developers and the big three manufacturers, which leads to a lot more innovation than we would have otherwise.
This is under the fallacy that marketing money is taken out of the game development money pit. I would assume that the marketing cubicle in the office is separate from the Q&A department, wouldn't you? While some connection between office spaces is necessary, it's not like the guys at Marketing go up to the Texture Department and say "Hey guys, can we dig into your funds for 10 mill or so? Thanks brah!"Shamus Young said:
And really, 1.5 million may seem like alot, but really it's chump change when you think about it. Last I remember, the average game budget is around 100 million or something, though I have no idea how accurate that is.