declared Non-Canon

[emeraldrafael]

The Series of Unfortunate Events: The End (Book 13). The book was fine except I thought the ending felt insubstantial and far to "Happily Ever After" for a book of Unfortunate Events.

The last book was happy?

 

[goldendriger]

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They will, and by then they wont be the demographic. Besides, capcom has nothing to do with pokemon.

Anyway, whatever. haters are gonna hate, but it bothers me that Gamefreak bother to put games out and immediately everyone says, "oh, thats gay. The new pokemon dont look good compared to my charizard." Well thats great. But my Blaziken beats the shit out of your charizard and then rapes it when its done, just so it knows who is boss.

Well firstly, as for the capcom thing, you see i may be what you call a "Moron" i have no idea why i put Capcom instead of Nintendo O.0 Buuuuut anyway, i guess you're right, people just arnt gonna like newer stuff just cause its new. I still wanna have a game where i can go to every region though =/

 

[Wereduck]

OT: To me the Stargate Episode "200" isn't canon. A minor thing, but It's all I can think of right now.

There are certainly a few SG-1 filler episodes that I could do without but "200" was awesome. Unless you mean that there would never have been a "Wormhole X-treme!" movie - you're probably right about that part.

Don't get me wrong. "200" ranks alongside my all time favourite SG-1 episodes, and is by far the most entertaining, but I don't consider it in continuity with the series. In the Stargate Universe "200" never actually took place. Just because something isn't in canon doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. I put is as non-canon mainly due to the ending where Walter suddenly changes into combat gear.

Good point; awesome but it probably does have more implausibilities per second than any other episode of the show.

 

[emeraldrafael]

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They will, and by then they wont be the demographic. Besides, capcom has nothing to do with pokemon.

Anyway, whatever. haters are gonna hate, but it bothers me that Gamefreak bother to put games out and immediately everyone says, "oh, thats gay. The new pokemon dont look good compared to my charizard." Well thats great. But my Blaziken beats the shit out of your charizard and then rapes it when its done, just so it knows who is boss.

Well firstly, as for the capcom thing, you see i may be what you call a "Moron" i have no idea why i put Capcom instead of Nintendo O.0 Buuuuut anyway, i guess you're right, people just arnt gonna like newer stuff just cause its new. I still wanna have a game where i can go to every region though =/

I'm not going to call you a moron. I try to stay above insults, otherwise I would have swore up a storm a few posts back.

Anyway, you'll need a console port, though most people dont consider Hoen (misspelled that) canon, only a few pokemon came out of it that were really any good, and a good portion were/are now uber, while the rest were OUs. So I dont think gamefreak will revisit that. I mean, they took out the HM Dive and hasnt come back yet.

 

[Grey_Focks]

You know, I once heard rumors of Star Wars prequels. I assume they decided to scrap those ideas altogether and just make KotOR. I think that was a smart move.

Also shame that they never got around to making those Tranformers movies. Could've been cool.

 

[Anchupom]

The whole "lost Appa" story arch of season two of Avatar, the last airbender.
I thought it was well done, and kinda touching, but it seemed like they were adding in peril and angst for peril and angst's sake.

 

[thenumberthirteen]

OT: To me the Stargate Episode "200" isn't canon. A minor thing, but It's all I can think of right now.

There are certainly a few SG-1 filler episodes that I could do without but "200" was awesome. Unless you mean that there would never have been a "Wormhole X-treme!" movie - you're probably right about that part.

Don't get me wrong. "200" ranks alongside my all time favourite SG-1 episodes, and is by far the most entertaining, but I don't consider it in continuity with the series. In the Stargate Universe "200" never actually took place. Just because something isn't in canon doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. I put is as non-canon mainly due to the ending where Walter suddenly changes into combat gear.

Good point; awesome but it probably does have more implausibilities per second than any other episode of the show.

Wormhole X-Treme was the same. I mean they mention the Stargate TV show and Movie at the end.

They were special episodes to celebrate 100 and 200 episodes. They were just a bit of fun.

Generally I stick with established canon so I don't selectively forget certain episodes. However the Star Trek: Voyager episode "Threshold" where they travel to Warp 10 and turn into lizards is SO non-canon in my eyes. They really wrote themselves into a mess there, and I'm glad it was never mentioned again. I mean Star Trek is well known for having extraordinary technical maguffins and cop outs; in TNG they effectively found a way to reverse the ageing process, and I can't wait to see what the JJ Abrams movies do with "Trans-Warp Beaming". Instant travel to anywhere, and being able to turn a lizard back into a person? Bullshit.

On the subject of Trek I think of Enterprise as Canon (maybe a bit of fuzziness to get it to fit with TOS) and I loved the way they tried to explain why Klingons didn't have head ridges until the Movies.

 

[Layzor]

Anything that celebrates something. Like... the 200th episode. THe 100th episode. The 1000th episode.

And the majroity of Simpsons/Family Guy episodes are non canon, cause very few actually show any progression through time.

The original definition of a comedy is something along the lines of "ending with everything being back where it started" it has nothing to do with humor.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

Star Trek: Nemesis.
Data lives.

also the Star Wars Prequels and both Force Unleashed games.

 

[DocMcCray]

Bionic Commando has never been put on a next gen console yet. And his bionic arm certainly isn't the consciousness of his dead wife.

Raiden was never a wimpy crybaby human. He has always been a badass ninja from birth.

Speaking of Metal Gear, they never made any NES versions. There were 2 MSX games, however.

I'm still waiting patiently for a sequel to Metroid Prime 3.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

Highlander 2. it makes me sugsfih129efh08f!"!!!!

 

[Sarkule]

The movie that was supposed to wrap up the Fullmetal Alchemist anime, the original one. If they would have just ended it with a short scene or something where one of them said something along the lines of "Hey, look! Maybe we could get back this way!" or something. No, it ended horribly and with bad taste. Yuck. I just pretended I never saw it. If you plan on watching the show, don't watch the movie. The show was great, though.

Can't think of anything else...

Pretty much the last part of the FMA series, after it went away from the manga.

 

[Ensiferum]

The Doctor is not half-human on his mothers' side. He only said that because he was delirious from regenerating.

 

[Spy_Guy]

What happened to the Bond franchise after Die Another Day? There were talks of a sequel... but I have no idea what became of that...

 

[mjc0961]

have you ever declared something Non-canon
a series that create a particularly bad sequal that you simply forgot about and pretended the series was already over

im doing this right now the the Ratchet and Clank series who after a stunning and amazing conclusion, are bringing it back as a coop beatem up

im sorry insomiac but your not sucking me into this one
i will go ahead and pretend this one doesnt exist

What? There was no conclusion to that series. Only to the "Future" games which are the first ones to have a story told over multiple games. But the series itself was never meant to be over, the ending of A Crack in Time made that quite clear. I don't know where you got the notion that A Crack in Time was supposed to be the last of Ratchet and Clank for good, but it's quite silly. I also don't know where you're getting your info about All 4 One, but it's not a beat-em up.

That out of the way, my stuff:

There is only one Matrix movie.
The only Die Hard movies are Die Hard and Die Hard With a Vengeance.
They also never made a Home Alone 3 about some other kid being bothered by other villains that aren't as awesome as Harry and Marv.
Isn't it a good thing that The Simpsons ended after just a few seasons? It would have sucked if it kept going on for 20 or more while not being even remotely funny anymore.

There is no such thing as Command and Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight. We're still waiting for a sequel to C&C3 to see if the world gets consumed by tiberium or if we get it under control and take back the planet.
There is no such place as the Johto region in Pokémon and thus certainly no games set in such a place.
The Mega Man X series ended with Mega Man X5, just as Inafune intended.
Dead Rising 2 did not have an overtime mode where you ran around collecting random, pointless crap. (Thankfully, this retcon is fully supported by Capcom themselves. Thanks Dead Rising 2 Case Zero!)
Anyone remember those Sonic the Hedgehog games back on the SEGA Genesis? Those were pretty good, it's just too bad we haven't seen a new one since Sonic & Knuckles came out in 1994.
Speaking of 1994, isn't that also when the last Final Fantasy game came out? #6 I think. It's a good thing Square quit while they were ahead rather than bogging us down with terrible game after terrible game that spent less time being games and more time being movies with each release.
I'm also glad that there isn't a Metal Gear Solid game with Raiden as the main character again coming out.
I wonder why there were no Burnout games after Burnout Revenge. Ah well, at least they didn't make some awful open world game that steals control away from you every 5 seconds. Better no game than that kind of game.

Yup. Technically, the Megaman Zero series is an alternate to X6 and beyond. Anyone who's played 4 will get how.

No, sadly the Zero series altered itself to include things that happened in X6 and beyond.

Spoiler: Spoilers for various X and Zero games inside.

Originally, Zero was going to be dead at the end of X5 and stay that way until Ciel finds and revives him in in Z1. However, they later decided that Zero coming back for X6 happened, and Zero later seals himself. Then Zero's original body is stolen, Zero is revived in a copy body to help X fight off Weil (guy who stole Zero's original body for his own purposes), and then Zero seals himself AGAIN and stays there until Ciel finds him in Z1.

So sadly, as much as I would have loved the entire Zero series to pretend that X6 and beyond never existed, it clearly embraces those games as canon.

Furthermore I don't know what you think in Z4 says that X6 and beyond never happened. Z3 makes it all quite clear that X6 and beyond did happen, and Z4 does nothing to retcon any of that.

No! That's not my call to make. Only the original creator has the right to declare what is or is not canon, or in the absence of the original creator, whomever is left in creative control of the thing. Whoever goes around declaring things non-canon because they didn't like it obviously has their head stuck so far up their own ass that they now breathe shit instead of air.

Oh settle down man. It's just a different way of saying "what part of a series didn't you like?" I don't think any of us are seriously trying to deny that anything we've said doesn't actually exist. I certainly wouldn't seriously debate with somebody that there is no C&C4 or that Final Fantasy only had 6 games in the series.

 

[Wereduck]

Generally I stick with established canon so I don't selectively forget certain episodes. However the Star Trek: Voyager episode "Threshold" where they travel to Warp 10 and turn into lizards is SO non-canon in my eyes. They really wrote themselves into a mess there, and I'm glad it was never mentioned again. I mean Star Trek is well known for having extraordinary technical maguffins and cop outs; in TNG they effectively found a way to reverse the ageing process, and I can't wait to see what the JJ Abrams movies do with "Trans-Warp Beaming". Instant travel to anywhere, and being able to turn a lizard back into a person? Bullshit.

On the subject of Trek I think of Enterprise as Canon (maybe a bit of fuzziness to get it to fit with TOS) and I loved the way they tried to explain why Klingons didn't have head ridges until the Movies.

I know I've read somewhere on The Escapist that "Threshold" actually is officially non-canon (thank God for small mercies).

As for Abrams, although I enjoyed the reboot the whole thing blows established Trek lore to hell. I'm curious to see where he takes it but I see many problems ahead besides the interplanetary transporter. It certainly violates the established canon but maybe it's another looking-glass universe or somesuch. We'll see whether he's got an explanation and whether it's worth bothering with.

I did like Enterprise's explanation for the changing Klingons though. Probably the best thing to come out of the last two seasons.

 

[Savagezion]

What is up with all the Indiana Jones 4 hate? How does 2 get a pass and not 4? 2 is the wost Indiana Jones movie ever made, so bad I find it insulting to the audience that enjoyed 1. Crystal skull should be in more than Temple of Doom.

I let the author tell me what's cannon pretty much. Sometimes they destroy their story by doing that but that's why I call them retarded and move on.

 

[Sarkule]

The movie that was supposed to wrap up the Fullmetal Alchemist anime, the original one. If they would have just ended it with a short scene or something where one of them said something along the lines of "Hey, look! Maybe we could get back this way!" or something. No, it ended horribly and with bad taste. Yuck. I just pretended I never saw it. If you plan on watching the show, don't watch the movie. The show was great, though.

Can't think of anything else...

Pretty much the last part of the FMA series, after it went away from the manga.

The first half was definitely better than the second, but none of the show was bad at all. It's just the movie that was absolutely horrible.

Eh, the second half wasn't bad, just completely different from the manga, and fair enough, they needed to finish it eventually.
And yeah, the movie was quite horrible.

 

[Vryyk]

There are only three Star Wars films. Nuff said...

Yeah, it's a shame old man Lucas never got around to making those prequels. Maybe it's for the best though.

 

[F-I-D-O]

The three mandalore episodes in SW: Clone Wars
I love the republic commando books, but Lucas decided to do a ret-con, taking away this story (which contributed much needed grey area to the SW universe) so he could make the mandalorians more accesible to kids.
Ok, I can deal.
Wait, Mandalor is called a Duchess now? They're peaceful? She had a romantic relationship with Obi-Wan, a Jedi?
Fuck you Lucas.
*Rereads Republic Commando books with sadness, as the ret-con eliminated any chance of a second Imperial Commando book.