Deep Silver Apologizes for Mutilated Dead Island Torso
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This isn't about women's rights. If it was a statue of a man's torso it would still be fucked up.Daft Ghosty said:
Because it's a mutilated torso.
That's fucked up.
Seriously.
This coming from someone who spent the elementary school shooting aftermath on /r/imgoingtohellforthis.
Yes I would. I'm more then a gamer. I love horror films, among other genre as well. I see it for what it is. A kind of art. It isn't appealing to allot of people who are wound to tight. Something everyone has to keep in mind. This is not real. It isn't for everyone, but neither is the game. So again yes I'd buy it, and place it on top of my desk along with about two dozen other figures from other games and movies. But I wont. I enjoyed the first game for the most part, but it really lacked in allot of parts, and was buggy. I'm afraid that while I like the statue, I wont buy the game to get one.Susan Arendt said:
That's funny because a few posts mentions it being a problem because it is a woman. But lets put that aside. The statue is nothing compared to what you see in the game, much less other games that do far worse. I could care less that it is a chopped up torso. Why? because it isn't real. It is for a mature rated horror game, but a G rated kids game. There are things in this worlds that should rile people up. This video game, and its collectors edition isn't one of them. When the company hacks up a real body, and tries to sell that, then get back to me. Until then they can pop out statues that would make a sailor blush, and I could give two cents about it. I'm an adult. When I don't like something that has no affect on me, I just ignore it totally.Phlakes said:
There really is worse things in this world, than a statue for a horror game.
*edit corrected a spelling error
To everyone asking "What's the problem?":
It's a nasty sexualization of dead things. That's the problem.
It would just be creepy and gross if it was a fully clothed torso (although the mutilated additions are just begging for attention and controversy), but it's outright disgusting when they've put it in a bikini because sex.
http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/417/417838.jpg
Mmmmmm, sexyyyyyyy.
See the issue?
And no, "It takes place at the beach" isn't a good rebuttal. Bikinis are rarely that skimpy.
It's a nasty sexualization of dead things. That's the problem.
It would just be creepy and gross if it was a fully clothed torso (although the mutilated additions are just begging for attention and controversy), but it's outright disgusting when they've put it in a bikini because sex.
http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/417/417838.jpg
Mmmmmm, sexyyyyyyy.
See the issue?
And no, "It takes place at the beach" isn't a good rebuttal. Bikinis are rarely that skimpy.
Probably. I think this more of an outcry of "No violence against women", rather than "OMG Skimpy Zombie in a Bikini". Does this remind anyone else of the goat sacrifice for GOW3?Tanis said:
You know I only glazed over the first news post about this because it's only a zombie torso, big deal. How many horror films and zombie games have dismembered limbs and such on screen? How many heads have we decapitated?
Did we play two different versions? Because I remember doing this whenever I got angry with the game.Susan Arendt said:
Was adding the statue a really stupid idea? Well, yeah. There's really no point to that.
Was the level of outrage justified? I don't think so, no. It was a frivoless move, but I don't think people should freak that much over a fake chunk of a fictional character, if that even is anyone specific. I can't imagine anyone would really be interested in keeping any such object, but people shouldn't freak out as much as they are.
a decision was made to include a gruesome statue of a zombie torso, which was cut up like many of our fans had done to the undead enemies in the original Dead Island.
It was pointless to manufacture this object, sure. But if it's something available to players in the game itself, then why are people freaking out over this, when anyone can get the same effect multiplied in the game, itself?
Was the level of outrage justified? I don't think so, no. It was a frivoless move, but I don't think people should freak that much over a fake chunk of a fictional character, if that even is anyone specific. I can't imagine anyone would really be interested in keeping any such object, but people shouldn't freak out as much as they are.
a decision was made to include a gruesome statue of a zombie torso, which was cut up like many of our fans had done to the undead enemies in the original Dead Island.
It was pointless to manufacture this object, sure. But if it's something available to players in the game itself, then why are people freaking out over this, when anyone can get the same effect multiplied in the game, itself?
In the same vein as Smilomaniac above. The walking dead season 2 collector's edition blu ray is a zombie head with a screw driver in the left eye socket. In short gory packages is nothing new.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Walking-Dead-Complete-Limited/dp/B007MS5B6Q
http://www.amazon.com/The-Walking-Dead-Complete-Limited/dp/B007MS5B6Q
Guy 1: "We sincerely regret the decision to include a dismembered female torso with the European collectors edition of Dead Island: Riptide."
Guy 2: "Yes, next time it will be male."
Guy 2: "Yes, next time it will be male."
The issue isn't purely for gory reasons.Daft Ghosty said:
The fact that they decided to put the torso in a bikini sexualizes the gratuitous violence it represents.
Also, since The Walking Dead's collector's edition was of a HEAD, that is to say something that can be humanized and sympathized with, a bikini-clad corpse does not show humanity.
And don't try to claim there wasn't an attempt to sexualize it. I could understand the reasoning if there was a head attached, but they chose solely to draw attention to boobs and violence.
If it had clothes, but no head and gore, it'd be fine. That would represent pure gore.
If it had a head, but was still bikini clad and mutilated, it'd be fine. We could say it was just a representation of one of the zombies from the game.
If it was just a bikini-clad torso, but no gore or head, it'd be fine. Then it'd just be adding a sexual twist to Venus de Milo.
It's a serious clusterfuck of all three of those aspects that make it so utterly wrong.
Right, because a gun with blood on it is totally on the same level.Smilomaniac said:
And there wouldn't really be anything wrong with it if it wasn't in the general collector's edition. I love art books and steel cases and all that. If I had the money I'd get the special edition of everything.
But you know what I, and many other people, don't love?
It starts with an M and rhymes with "futilated torso".
I mean, put it in a Really Macabre and Shit Edition and it's all good. But not here.
And before it's brought up, yes there's a distinction between this and gore in the game, even if they're both realistic-but-fake.
Because it's an amalgamation of schlocky gore and sex.Smilomaniac said:
And if that doesn't creep you out in ways soap can't reach, then I have no hope for you.
