Defending one's self

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sidhe3141

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Act nuts (in a "subtly-off" way rather than a "violently insane" way). And hope this gang has a "don't mess with the crazies" policy. And use everything I know about psychology (admittedly, not that much) to manipulate them into leaving or at least holding off.
 

SideburnsPuppy

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If I'm in a crowd? I scream at the top of my voice, "Help me, I'm being assaulted!" and pray that there's at least one Samaritan with a cell phone will contact the proper authorities. Your 8 years of karate may leave you itching for a fight, but my 6 years of Jiu-jitsu have taught me that violence is ugly and should be avoided.
 

Talshere

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Providing you dont have a smartphone, or more accurately something build more like a k750i, held in your fist with your thumb over the top it makes a good bludgen. Any set of keys with a single key braced between your 2 middle finger and supported from the back so as not to cut yourself also makes a good makeshift knuckle duster. A solid metal ring adds to any punch, though it will injure your finger and damage the ring, your call.

Be careful doing this. If you start pulling weapons no matter how makeshift and THEY have weapons they thus far haven't used, you might have just escalated the whole issue from a beating to actually defending your life.

Remove any items like watches or glasses the moment you think there might be trouble, as well as tying up your hair if needed.

If your attacked with weapons a jumper or a belt make good defences if you can get them off without opening yourself up, but you must be aggressive once you have neutralised the weapon or youll lose your defence and they will get their weapon back.

Generally speaking, the best tactic in these instances it to try and drop the first person who comes at you as fast and brutal as possible. Even most black belt would have a hard time going 7 on 1 if they all rush together, fortunatly these groups are usually lead by one or two individuals with the rest just following, you you can drop these first 1 or 2 before the other move forward, and do it in a way that they wont be coming back (IE a bloody nose isnt going to work, you need to snap and arm or KO them or alike), then you break moral in a horrific way and generally can buy yourself enough time to escape providing you don't show weakness.


Sometimes it'll go tits up though, and you'll still get the shit beaten out of you unless you actually kill someone, which sadly is the only thing not covered under self-defence as "reasonable force" :p


Tbh as well, its sad to say. But if you dont think youll be able to drop one of them, and you dont think youll be able to get away. Its often just better to accept what your guna get. Fighting back, regardless of what anyone else tells you escalates these issues if you dont do it right first time. Second time round they will be more careful and more brutal, to insure you dont get a look in. If you dont even run, they will become bored much faster, because they haven't had to work to get you, part of kicking the crap out of someone like that is running em down first. Its base, animal nature. They arnt after killing you, they want sport. Its no fun if you dont run.
 

HeySeansOnline

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If theres a pipe or something along those line (durable, long) I'd pick it up. Next option is take my keys and make impromptu brass knuckles. Also toss my bookbag (weaponise whatevers handy if there is something if I can, sharp pencil, I once had a door hinge in there don't ask why). And in the end fight for my safety, If I lose I lose, hopefully I go down kicking.

Granted this is all from the position of some schmuck in a chair whos not in the best shape woth no self defense training. I'd like to think I'd do these things but most likely I wouldn't get the chance and would get beaten to hell.
 

Nailz

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Lemon Detective said:
You don't necessarily have to overpower and defeat the entire group (gang is a bit much, say 4 or 5 guys), you just have to try to make enough an impact to slow them down so that the crowd can break it up.
I've been in this situation more times than I'd like and not once have I come away with any serious damage. Without crowds unfortunately. Here's one of my nasty lil' RL experiences. I was walking home with a couple of friends early one morning (1-3 am) and when we get to this corner of a building, all of a sudden some people round the corner and throw a punch at one of my friends. I happened to have an umbrella on me. One of the fellows comes after me so I back up, and when he follows I Knocked him flat out onto his back and railed on him a bit. But I knew there was a bunch of people and I knew my friends weren't too scrappy so instead of curb stomping that assholes face I backed up and let him stand. This dude starts coming after me again, so I rail on him with my umbrella until he pulls out a knife and his huge friend starts chasing me. I ran up the street (I'm not going to fight a dude with a knife and his ogre sized friend)and called the cops. I was up the street by the time they had run halfway.

Long story short, one of my friends had gotten into a random car and drove across the street, also called the cops. The other friend got away as well with only a few bruises, when they realized he was one skinny ass dude vs all of them they kind of backed off, people had stopped and called the cops fairly obviously. When me and my friend were waiting for the cops nearby, I looked at my umbrella and the metal handle was completely bent backwards. It was satisfying to know that douche who went after me was going to be sore for a while.

Anyway, not a fun thing to think about. Knock on wood no one has to deal with this kind of shit from all these pathetic douche bags who rail on people for fun.
 

Berethond

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Congrats to anyone here who admitted they'd get the shit kicked out of them - to anyone else; really now, who are you fooling? Only yourself.
It's all about the Nike Defense, man. The only good self-defense.
 

Yureina

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To put it simply? I'd terrify them into backing away. How would I do this? If someone actually did try to attack me physically, I'd probably end up revealing to them what I am in my core when under assault by others: a rabid animal with absolutely no self-restraint. In other words, that gang will have entered a fight that someone is going to get killed in if it lasts much longer. Could that be me? Perhaps, but I'd do my best to take one of them down with me or, at the very least, to put up such a fight that the survivors will be plagued by nightmares for the rest of their life.

Beware. :eek:
 

electric method

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As an aside here, most folks with martial arts training (eg. karate, judo etc) are NOT trained for multiple opponent situations. Furthermore the training they do receive doesn't involve the level of commitment to violence needed to survive, let alone win the scenario. Most will hesitate to carry through an attack because they have never trained for having to use what they know for real. It's the difference between someone trained for combat and someone trained for tournaments. The two are completely different worlds and how they are approaced are totally different. This is why most would be "heroes" end up hurt or dead.
 

JLML

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JLML said:
Pull out my Shinai and try to keep them all in front of me. With luck, a good Tsugi Ashi, A nice Kiai and a hard swing at the leaders head would scare them enough to leave me alone. What, pretty much every time I'm in town I have my Shinai with me. <.<
Quick Googling has indicated that a "Shinai" is one of those kendo sword things.

Why the hell would you carry that to town with you? Nutter!
Because almost every time I go to town I have training later that evening. Thus, I bring my Shinai. That's why I carry it with me to town.
 

Betancore

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I wouldn't stand a chance against even one person, much less several. Unless that one person was a small child. But I bet even a small child could take me down. I'd just flail a lot, run like hell, and try to draw as much attention as possible.
 

Valksy

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Most people have no idea at all how to fight, despite all the swinging-dick bullshit I am reading here.

Here is a pro-tip for you - run the fuck away and scream "fire" as loud and as often as you can because a "gang" of people will kill you.
 

blankedboy

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See, crowds are a horizontal sprawl. This is the problem, everyone thinks within two dimensions. Half a second of Hyper§couting and I'm a couple metres in the air, then off I go in a random direction.
 

ilspooner

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I would beat them all up easily using nothing but a toothpick.
If I was actually in that situation, I would run for the hills. Yeah, I'm a wuss. :(
 

Steppin Razor

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A gang of people eh? Well if I could, "FUCK FUCK, RUN LIKE HELL!" said in a very, very manly way.

If I couldn't escape, I'd have to hope for the best. I have no hope for victory, but I'm a pretty tough bastard, so depending on how they attack me it might take them a while to take me down. Maybe I can hope that one of them tires out a little and I can take him down with me?
 

Ethylene Glycol

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I'd drive my nails into the leader's eyes, then slam his head against the sidewalk until it reaches the consistency of chunky salsa, laughing all the while. :3