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Terrorism is a subjective word. There is no such thing as a terrorist. Say you're an American and just for fun I'm gonna compare this to 9/11 and some "terrorist's" fly planes in to your building To use they are terrorist to there country they are freedom fighter's its all subjective so I wouldn't suggest asking this question lol
 

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Crazy Elf said:
People seem to have very strong opinions on what is and is not terrorism. As such it would be most helpful to have an actual definition to go by.

So, would anyone care to have a shot at defining exactly what terrorism is?
Speaking Arabic.

Terrifying.
 

frank220

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Communists, Muslims, and Liberals. God Bless the US of A! This is what I heard two of my friends say this. Yes, they are politically retarded.
 

hopeneverdies

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Tactics used to strike fear into others.

It originated with the French Reign of Terror where everybody was freaked out about possibly dying because they looked at someone funny.
 

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odubya23 said:
DrDeath3191 said:
Terrorism : Using fear tactics that are not sanctioned by global powers to manipulate or forcefully control affairs.
Why is it not terrorism when global powers use fear tactics to manipulate or forcefully control affairs?
they're hypocrites
 

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Crazy Elf said:
People seem to have very strong opinions on what is and is not terrorism. As such it would be most helpful to have an actual definition to go by.

So, would anyone care to have a shot at defining exactly what terrorism is?
terrorism is terrorism. If you want a real answer check a dictionary.
 

Kogarian

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xmetatr0nx said:
No, websters, the US army, navy, airforce,marines, OED, and god knows how many countless other places have already definied terrorism quite well.
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xarealpersonx

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A "terrorist" is someone who fills others with TERROR! IMAGINE THAT! A word that has to do with it's own root? amazing.
 

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Chickenlittle said:
If they're willing to kill civilians to have a chance to even injure an enemy, I call that terrorism.

If they threaten to kill civilians, I call that terrorism.

If they suicide bomb, I call that terrorism.

If they use illegal weaponry, i.e. gas, I call that terrorism.

I think you get the idea.
if they use Legal Weapons, it's still terrorism, as the end goal is still the same, to terrorize their enemies. Take a look at the tamil tigers, they are both "terrorists" and "freedom fighters", they are ready to die to protect tamils, and more than willing to harm the other ethnic groups in sri lankas.

To quote a friend " ... they are the same guy protecting my family, and killing my neighbors because they are not Tamils ... "
 

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Terrorism is violence or the threat of violence against civilians to create chaos in a political order, to radically change society, to advance an ideological goal, or to provoke a response. It can generally be broken down into 3 categories.
State terrorism, that is in the manner or maoist china or Stalinist Russia. Typical of totalitarian governments.
Trans-national/international terrorism, what we usually picture when we think "terrorist" it is terrorist with no "home" country usually operating internationally for the advancement of an ideological cause. (Islamic extremism)
And then homegrown, or national terrorism, think the Basque separatist group ETA, or the Oklahoma city bombing.
 

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Terrorism: The use of violence, or threat of violence, to achieve goals that are political, religious, or ideological in state.

By this definition, you Americans (it pains me to even find that worthy of capitalization) are just as much terrorists as those you claim to be fighting.
 

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Kiereek said:
Terrorism: The use of violence, or threat of violence, to achieve goals that are political, religious, or ideological in state.

By this definition, you Americans (it pains me to even find that worthy of capitalization) are just as much terrorists as those you claim to be fighting.
I disagree. Soldiers fighting soldiers on the field of battle capture enemy soldiers and do this all the time. But real terrorists kill innocent people simply to inflict fear, regardless of whatever else happens.

When soldiers die from a roadside bomb, it saddens me, but I at least "get it." The people who bombed them are fighting their enemy on the field of combat, to get the soldiers out of their homes so they cam be safe. But when some monster drives a bomb into a carload of children, I could never "get" that. *That* is terrorism, and *that* is why some of us consider terror evil and worthy of attempting to stop.

I'm not stupid. I know there's all kinds of political power plays going on in the background, and that no side is innocent or "good," but honestly, there has to be a line. And so far the line seems to be forming at "don't kill innocent civilians, regardless of the reason." If being a muslim doesn't make the other guy a monster, being American doesn't make me one either.
 

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"The premeditated use of violence or the threat of violence by sub-national or non-state actors to generate fear or intimidation in a targetted population and thereby to affect political change. The targetted population need not be the same population against which violence is directed."

Thats mine from my Terrorism and Political Violence seminar. I got an A+ on that shit.
 

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Terrorism is an emotive term that has often been used to demonise one's political opponents. This has occurred on both so-called "sides" in the "War on Terrorism" that Bush pushed into his rhetoric. This overzealous, polarising use of the term has lead to wide international disagreements and the result is that really, one can't use the term without implying a lot more than the base original meaning. This makes it inappropriate for use in international discussions and it should - in my opinion - be dropped out of professional terminology entirely and replaced with other jargon.

Back to the base meaning. Terrorism can literally be described as violent action used to spread fear. There have historically been very few military actions that haven't in result had ramifications of widespread fear. With that said, the intent to cause fear isn't necessarily there on a wider scale in the force engaging in action. It can be an unintended result. But you'd be irresponsible to expect anything different. If you send gunners or drop bombs into a place full of civilians, the natural human response to such danger is to panic. Therefore, as Michael Franti sometimes puts it, "all bombing [read: all war] is terrorism". The problem with saying that, of course, is that calling it terrorism makes the more simple among us immediately think that it means "war=bad". It's actually a direct statement of fact, stating the easy logic that war causes terror, therefore conducting warfare is terrorism. But it's so difficult for many of us to separate the fact of the term from the emotions we attach to it.

While one man's terrorist could be another man's freedom fighter, I personally think that both have little right to take life. The only people who can allowably take life have to be able to bring it back, thereby making death and suffering reversible things, and so far that's impossible and a mere fantasy. War will realistically continue, but so will its injustice.

Of course, I'd never want to force my opinions on this to anyone else. I just think peace, and not forced peace but the peace of free will, must be sought, and that means that I disagree with pre-emptive warfare and the "other" mentality we place upon our fellow humans by calling them terrorists or any other emotionally laden word. Even people who kill others are humans, no matter how hard that is to accept, and therefore we should ideally be less ready than most nations are to take their lives for some "greater good". Only then can humanity come to grips with its' insane power to do good or evil, and turn its' back on the latter.

With the realities settled in and the injustice to a large extent unavoidable into the near future, there is obviously a need for a military force to defend each nation. If a nation is under a direct - and I don't mean this "oh some nation we don't like might have/be getting nuclear weaponry" idea, but literally "I have the weapon and now I'm going to blow up your country" kind of threat, then military action is justified in that the lives saved will ultimately outnumber the lives ended by conflict, and that an actual threat exists rather than what could be an invented one. So the existence of a military and its functions for a state as a Defense rather than a more appropriately named Attack Force (which would be a better name for some Western defense forces in terms of the conduct their politics has at times forced on them) makes sense.

Some people have pointed out so-called similarities between environmental movements and terrorist movements. I think that's a comparison of which most of you should be ashamed. Terrorist movements use military action to destroy lives. Environmental movements reduce pollution with the aspiration to save human life as well as other life, which we need to survive. Never the twain shall meet, except in one or two tiny extremist movements which are, like terrorist movements, implied to be the heads of the larger movement when in fact they're a tiny portion which is heavily divided from the rest.

And while some of you used Greenpeace as an example, I must point out that though they may break a few laws, they don't kill people. Newsflash of the year: that would go against, you know, "peace". Their main ideal.
 

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Silva said:
With the realities settled in and the injustice to a large extent unavoidable into the near future, there is obviously a need for a military force to defend each nation. If a nation is under a direct - and I don't mean this "oh some nation we don't like might have/be getting nuclear weaponry" idea, but literally "I have the weapon and now I'm going to blow up your country" kind of threat, then military action is justified in that the lives saved will ultimately outnumber the lives ended by conflict, and that an actual threat exists rather than what could be an invented one. So the existence of a military and its functions for a state functioning as a Defense rather than a more appropriately named Attack (which would be a better name for some Western defense forces in terms of the conduct their politics has at times forced on them) Force makes sense.
I would argue that pre-emptive strikes based on actionable intelligence should be valid, but (and this will be the day!) there should be sanctions if the attacking side can't prove that the threat it responded to wasn't real. After all, would it be moral if Nation A has a weapon, conceals it, and makes serious plans to deploy it on Nation B in a surprise attack, and Nation B found out and attacked Nation A to prevent this from happening?