Depression Quest Addresses Pain of Mental Illness

Riobux

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It seemed hard hitting, but I still find the fact they pretty much say "if you don't get therapy, you're fucked" a very mild irritation. Maybe it's because years of dealing with very mild depression (if it even is depression) I've managed to deal with without seeing a counselling psychologist; mostly because I'm not even sure if it is depression but also partially because I just think about how the goal of therapy is to give you drugs and change your behaviour to correlate in with a "correct" train of thought. The thought of ever having my mind altered scares me, as well as losing that spark that I have due to my severely negative view on things.
 

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Riobux said:
It seemed hard hitting, but I still find the fact they pretty much say "if you don't get therapy, you're fucked" a very mild irritation. Maybe it's because years of dealing with very mild depression (if it even is depression) I've managed to deal with without seeing a counselling psychologist; mostly because I'm not even sure if it is depression but also partially because I just think about how the goal of therapy is to give you drugs and change your behaviour to correlate in with a "correct" train of thought. The thought of ever having my mind altered scares me, as well as losing that spark that I have due to my severely negative view on things.
Some people can manage to live with quite weird train of thoughts, but for others, it will lead to feelings of inadequacy, to a lack of social skills and of self-confidence that will cause damages to the social and professional life. Then, it starts a vicious circle, as you are failing harder and harder, not having a rewarding job, feeling yourself truly inadequate and unworthy of having better. You feel like everything is your fault and that you shouldn't bother those who are "talking with you out of pity" as that would "scare them off as they see how worthless you actually are". And the more it goes, the more you fail, with you yourself seeing every good thing that happens to you as the beginning to a cruel joke that will slam you as to show that you're the problem.

Until you decide to eliminate the problem by yourself.


And "being tough", kicking the other into getting himself together works mostly in the movies or with people with a different problem. Here, you need a helping hand, someone who will listen to you and hopefully will not screw it even further. A good friend, a girl/boyfriend, even a coworker can really help, but in a lot of cases, the affected person will not open him/herself to it because they are sure they would frighten that individual away from them. Thus the importance of having somebody who will know how to deal with you and who you will be sure they'll keep your secrets safe. For thousands of years, this was one of the most important jobs of the priests, to listen, advise and keep their mouth shut about what they heard. This is still one of the most important job they have, and probably one of the most rational and scientifical reasons to keep religious people around. But there are also medical personel trained in the workings of psychology and communication that will be particularly helpful. Sure, some of them are conmen, but a lot if not the large majority of them will help you if you need it.

You had the luck and the will to come out of it without professional help and I did too. But a lot of other people don't have that and will slowly destroy their life and their close one's when they finally snap and kill other people or themselves.
 

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Nice to know this might make the ignorance level go down a few ticks hopefully.
Unfortunitly all it did for me was made me miss my ex, and realize my life is even more pointless without a spouse to find those few moments of relief and acceptance, since the rest is all.... meh.
 

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Well... playing that... hit pretty close to home. I'm not sure if I feel better or worse for playing that game.
 

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i played this game, and it made me think about all the low points in my life, all those moments where the pressure overwhelmed me, I was depressed, i probably still am, but this game made me realize how far i've come in the last year, how i've adjusted some goals to better suit my abilities and how good it feels to finally be free of a goal that was, while great to strive for, really did hold me back. If i hadn't had the goal of becoming an architect i would have entered school years ago, but always i looked, and was crushed by the requirements.


now i'm aout to go to school for something more creative and i'm happy about that
 

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Rufus Shinra said:
Some people can manage to live with quite weird train of thoughts, but for others, it will lead to feelings of inadequacy, to a lack of social skills and of self-confidence that will cause damages to the social and professional life. Then, it starts a vicious circle, as you are failing harder and harder, not having a rewarding job, feeling yourself truly inadequate and unworthy of having better. You feel like everything is your fault and that you shouldn't bother those who are "talking with you out of pity" as that would "scare them off as they see how worthless you actually are". And the more it goes, the more you fail, with you yourself seeing every good thing that happens to you as the beginning to a cruel joke that will slam you as to show that you're the problem.

Until you decide to eliminate the problem by yourself.


And "being tough", kicking the other into getting himself together works mostly in the movies or with people with a different problem. Here, you need a helping hand, someone who will listen to you and hopefully will not screw it even further. A good friend, a girl/boyfriend, even a coworker can really help, but in a lot of cases, the affected person will not open him/herself to it because they are sure they would frighten that individual away from them. Thus the importance of having somebody who will know how to deal with you and who you will be sure they'll keep your secrets safe. For thousands of years, this was one of the most important jobs of the priests, to listen, advise and keep their mouth shut about what they heard. This is still one of the most important job they have, and probably one of the most rational and scientifical reasons to keep religious people around. But there are also medical personel trained in the workings of psychology and communication that will be particularly helpful. Sure, some of them are conmen, but a lot if not the large majority of them will help you if you need it.

You had the luck and the will to come out of it without professional help and I did too. But a lot of other people don't have that and will slowly destroy their life and their close one's when they finally snap and kill other people or themselves.
The "being tough" thing is, I agree, something only that really exists in films. The problem with the mentality of "suck it up" is you don't see the reason or how to just suck it up. You don't see why you deserve any ounce of pleasure or enjoyment, for you are the blight in the room. You wish you could change from being the blight, but you just don't know how.

Honestly, I'm not out of it. I'm not depressed, but I get the feeling the contrast on the TV of my life has been dimmed a bit more than others so I have a more negative view on events. Something is fun and exciting, it's just good. Something isn't a pain and a mild irritation, it's annoying. The TV metaphor is the best metaphor I can think of to describe it because it doesn't feel full-blown depression (e.g I don't have sleeping difficulties), but I can't help but get the feeling everyone sees things in a more enjoyable light than I. However, I don't have the motivation to change. Not only am I not sure in my assertion; also I have to deal with analysis of society which no one likes good news and bad news sells. So in my line, it's ideal to have a pessimistic and cynical view on things. It sells more. If I tried to deal with the possible existence of depression, I really get the strong feeling that it'd have a negative impact because I just can't make the negative view points required to do well.

It's just a case of I really believe that while therapy can really help and is vital if you are beginning to fall into an endless spiral with a grim end, I do believe it's a shame this game didn't explore the idea of being not in absolute misery and shambles but not happy either. In purgatory.
 

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Riobux said:
The "being tough" thing is, I agree, something only that really exists in films. The problem with the mentality of "suck it up" is you don't see the reason or how to just suck it up. You don't see why you deserve any ounce of pleasure or enjoyment, for you are the blight in the room. You wish you could change from being the blight, but you just don't know how.

Honestly, I'm not out of it. I'm not depressed, but I get the feeling the contrast on the TV of my life has been dimmed a bit more than others so I have a more negative view on events. Something is fun and exciting, it's just good. Something isn't a pain and a mild irritation, it's annoying. The TV metaphor is the best metaphor I can think of to describe it because it doesn't feel full-blown depression (e.g I don't have sleeping difficulties), but I can't help but get the feeling everyone sees things in a more enjoyable light than I. However, I don't have the motivation to change. Not only am I not sure in my assertion; also I have to deal with analysis of society which no one likes good news and bad news sells. So in my line, it's ideal to have a pessimistic and cynical view on things. It sells more. If I tried to deal with the possible existence of depression, I really get the strong feeling that it'd have a negative impact because I just can't make the negative view points required to do well.

It's just a case of I really believe that while therapy can really help and is vital if you are beginning to fall into an endless spiral with a grim end, I do believe it's a shame this game didn't explore the idea of being not in absolute misery and shambles but not happy either. In purgatory.
Well, in my playthrough, I ended being on the way to getting things better, but still with quite a lot of problems remaining.

Anyway, as for cynism, I'm quite cynical myself (heh, one of my passions is geopolitics, so you can see that it doesn't help), but I found out that you can use this cynism to make other people laugh and give them a smile by doing some good jokes about everything. See the system as it is and then mock it ruthlessly for your enjoyment and the others'. Having friends is really one of the best things that happened to me: if the general world will rather buy bad news, your friends will buy the good ones and you can then start a virtuous cycle instead of the self-destructive one.
 

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That music... just the sound of it is enough to make someone top themselves.

Anyway I didn't play through much of the game, but what I saw of it did show a good understanding of mild-to-moderate depression. The way healthier options get struck out as your condition worsens is a stroke of genius; instead of trying to refute the supposedly sensible "just snap out of it" mentality, the game just treats that whole idea as irrelevant/impossible.



captcha: idk my bff jill

LOLWUT
 

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I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who can't take something that is even more depressing than Depression Quest, but the other game like this that just came out is called Actual Sunlight

It is super rough but the writing is amazing
 

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In a episode of the series Dexter, someone shows him (Dexter) a game where you play as a serial killer.
Dexters response to this is "Why would anyone want to be a serial killer" in a angry manner.

I would like to respond in the same way.
I get the idea, I get the point, and it might be well made, I don't care.
No one should ever seek this state of mind, no one should ever have to experience it in any way, shape or form.
 

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Couldn't finish the game.

Strazdas said:
There is a reason why people dont make games like these:
peopel paly games to escape depression, not explore it.
It's called catharsis.

rhizhim said:
that game is bullshit.

it streamlines you into giving one answer. there is no option to pick another one after you are severly depressed. and thats bullshit.
That's the point. It's really hard to explain, but by showing positive options that you can't select, and by progressively reducing the number of options you do have, the game is simulating the experience of depression.

It's actually quite clever, but that's obviously gone completely over your head.
 

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Rattja said:
In a episode of the series Dexter, someone shows him (Dexter) a game where you play as a serial killer.
Dexters response to this is "Why would anyone want to be a serial killer" in a angry manner.

I would like to respond in the same way.
I get the idea, I get the point, and it might be well made, I don't care.
No one should ever seek this state of mind, no one should ever have to experience it in any way, shape or form.
The game is just trying to help people understand what its like to be depressed. A lot of people are like " I've never been depressed, but I've been sad sometimes and I just snap out of it. Why don't depressed people just do that" and I think the game is trying to make people understand how its not that simple.
 

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Barda236 said:
Bleidd Whitefalcon said:
I was one of those people it helped... was on the brink Friday night and it pulled me off it. Would have restarted meds if I HAD any - seriously, they just don't work for some reason. Thank you for making this game, Zoe and Patrick. You saved at least one life, even if that life isn't worth much of anything.
Don't talk like that man, no matter how bad things get, life is still worth living, and I'm not talking out of my ass either, I still am suffering from depression, but I am pulling through with the help of my family and friends. Also, you have to try a couple of meds before you find one that works for you. Some kinds just don't work for somepeople.
I've tried most antidepressants. They either don't work or make the problem worse. And from the sound of it, you have a support network that I DON'T have. I'm not on great terms with my family (they've actually told me that after I move out, they never want to hear from me again. For any reason) and I don't have any friends. Motivation to get through this, where art thou?
 

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rhizhim said:
nope, you pretty much got the only ending this game has.
and thats kind of the problem with it. a depression is more "flexible" than this.

on the other hand, i should take this more like an autobiography,just like dys4ia
A depression is more flexible than what you see in the ''game''?
Wow, you certainly have absolutely no idea how it is to be so depressed you'd wish you could just kill yourself and be gone from the world.
This ''game'' shows you the world of a severely depressed person, showing you how what you think is a super easy option to take is in fact bloody hard to do.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about so please shut up and educate yourself a bit more before you start preaching how depression is flexible and it's really easy getting out of the vicious circle where you just dig yourself deeper and deeper.

Anyways, played the game and chose the option I did in my own life. After 4 years I finally managed to get out the cycle and now I'm pretty much stable, still on medication and occasional therapy sessions, but at least I'm doing better.
Marvelous game, recommend it for everyone that knows someone depressed so they might learn a bit more of how hard it is to 'open' up and talk about it.
 

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complexion99 said:
I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who can't take something that is even more depressing than Depression Quest, but the other game like this that just came out is called Actual Sunlight

It is super rough but the writing is amazing
I'm interested.

Is it in a similar format? Also, is it free? Because I'm flat broke.