Destiny 2 Gameplay Trailer Released, PC Version to be on Blizzard Client

[ffronw]

Okay, did they now say that the PC version will be out on September 8th or did you add that to the article yourself? Because I've seen other sites report that the PC version doesn't have a set release date yet and will be out after the console versions.

Well shit. Thanks for confirming that, Bungie. And thanks for the heads up. They made that known right after I posted this yesterday.

 

[Bilious Green_v1legacy]

woah, never thought Blizzard would put non blizzard games in their system. I mean I know Activison owns them both But blizzards "brand" has always remained separate from Activisons other properties.

I expect this is Vivendi trying to build up Blizzard Client into something like Origin and avoiding the Steam tax in future.

They need an Activision IP they can afford to take a risk with, it wouldn't surprise me if their end game is to release Call of Duty on Blizzard Client too. I'm sure this will go fine, the real question is will Destiny 2 be good enough to make it a success.

Vivendi don't own Bliizard anymore, Acti-Blizz bought it's freedom from Vivendi a few years ago and they are an independent entity again. Vivendi is currently trying to devour Ubisoft (hopefully they choke on it).

 

[sXeth]

Didn't watch the entire stream, but more or less seems like mostly a general polish overhaul. Seems more story focused (And with characters beyond quest dispensers). If I understand how the kinetic/energy weapon usage works, thats nice for a bit more options.

Of the three classes they showed, the fire sword dude and the Arc staff guy just look like graphical overhauls of Sunbreaker and Blade Dancer. Changed the weapons, and added some animations, but its still a guy meleeing his way along with little teleports and a guy shooting fire attacks from a heavy melee. The shield guy looks new at least, though a more offense oriented Defender makes me wonder if what little sense of class roles there was is even more gone.

 

[RJ 17]

I can get the argument about the auction house, and I could even appreciate the argument about the subscription model for WoW (even though I don't agree with that argument - I still need to pay bills to Telstra for instance for ongoing Internet use, and F2P has tradeoffs of its own), but cosmetics? Seriously?

We've been over this before, Hawki. The issue doesn't lie in microtransactions for cosmetics, the issue lies in gambling for cosmetics. "Have some personal responsibility!" Shouldn't Blizzard show some responsibility by not marketing gambling to underage players who are much more prone to make impulse decisions?

If it was "I want that Widowmaker skin. Here's my $5, thank you for the Widowmaker skin!" it would be fine. You get what you pay for. Instead we get a system that's "I want that Widowmaker skin. Here's my $5. I got a skin for Torbjorn, two sprays, and voice line. Here's another $5. I got three sprays and a 25 credits. Here's another $5..." Now if you're gainfully employed and have your own source of income and you want to piss it away in such a manner, then it's your money: do with it what you want. But I doubt little Timmy the 13 year old playing on his father's account has a steady job...so whose money is he pissing away?

Beyond that: I'm fully aware that you're one of the bigger Blizzard fanboys on this site, but Acti-Blizzard is a multi-billion dollar corporation...they really don't need you defending their anti-consumer ways.

 

[loa]

Get that shit off of battlenet.
If nothing else, at least everything on there has a certain technical quality standard and is guaranteed decades of support by blizzard because it's blizzard games.
I'm not opening battlenet to play mediocre games by the halo guys.

There may have been questionable decisions by blizzard lately but this is still something that has been earned over decades.
Not by bungie.

 

[TilMorrow]

I havent used battle.net in many many years, back when i played WoW and i think it was called something else.

So tell me people, is this a good thing or bad thing? I like destiny and im getting it on pc either way but are there and downsides to it being on battle.net?

The Good: You get Blizzard Servers which are fucking everywhere and run well.

The Bad: Destiny 2 is going to be just as bad as destiny one just with a new coat of paint. Also mirco-transactions for sure. I can see those bs engrams going for top dollar.

 

[Hawki]

We've been over this before, Hawki. The issue doesn't lie in microtransactions for cosmetics, the issue lies in gambling for cosmetics. "Have some personal responsibility!" Shouldn't Blizzard show some responsibility by not marketing gambling to underage players who are much more prone to make impulse decisions?

By that argument, every company ever should never advertise products to children. And since Overwatch/HotS/games in general tend to have a cross-age playerbase, the analogy falls even further flat.

If it was "I want that Widowmaker skin. Here's my $5, thank you for the Widowmaker skin!" it would be fine. You get what you pay for. Instead we get a system that's "I want that Widowmaker skin. Here's my $5. I got a skin for Torbjorn, two sprays, and voice line. Here's another $5. I got three sprays and a 25 credits. Here's another $5..." Now if you're gainfully employed and have your own source of income and you want to piss it away in such a manner, then it's your money: do with it what you want. But I doubt little Timmy the 13 year old playing on his father's account has a steady job...so whose money is he pissing away?

Except that's not how it works. At all.

Okay, it doesn't work like that in HotS, I can't comment on Overwatch, but in HotS, you can buy skins with shards that you either earn through grinding, or can buy the shards - I think through gems, I dunno, I haven't had to buy shards yet, and I'm in no inclination to. So, if I do want a Widowmaker skin, all I have to do is select the skin and purchase it. If you want to talk about anti-consumer practices, the old HotS system was far more anti-consumer, since gold was the only currency, and could only be used for heroes and master skins. Everything else, from other skins to mounts, had to be purchased through real-world money. That's far more anti-consumer, since there was no other way to obtain them. So, much as I might have liked a unicorn mount, I'm not spending $25 to get it.

If we're talking about little Timmy playing with his father's account, maybe father Tommy shouldn't be trusting Timmy with his credit card if Timmy lacks self-control? I don't remember exactly when I first got the go-ahead to use a parent's credit card (it was in my teens, wanted something off Amazon), but once I got the details, I only purchased what I'd agreed to buy, and paid them the owed cash immediately. If Timmy, on the other hand, decides to splurge, then Timmy's the one who's at fault. Amazon and other sites are designed to get people to buy as much as possible. I can't call the 'gambling' aspect of Overwatch/HotS a bad thing when you're always guaranteed to get something, and can get material without spending any real-world money.

Beyond that: I'm fully aware that you're one of the bigger Blizzard fanboys on this site, but Acti-Blizzard is a multi-billion dollar corporation...they really don't need you defending their anti-consumer ways.

As I a Blizzard fanboy? Yeah, probably, to some extent, but I don't find the anti-consumer argument any less silly regardless of who's doing it (Paladins has a similar 'gambling' system, but I've got no gripes with it either). Same reason why I think it's silly to penalize casinos for people who lose their money. Same reason I think it was rediculous that someone could sue McDonalds for 'making them fat,' or really, for anyone to whine about cosmetic microtransactions in general. Also, as I said, I found the old HotS system far more anti-consumer for the reasons I described above, and I never made a secret of that before now. The unicorn example? Not the first time I've used such an example for rediculous prices, nor will it be the last.

 

[Buizel91]

Cade/Zavala on Heroes of the Storm please!

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Wow, this makes me significantly less interested in Destiny. I left WoW after WotLK and never looked back for any Blizzard titles. I don't like having to play in their ecosystem and I don't really care for the company or its fan base anymore. They've nuked their own games and lore from orbit in favor of mass market appeal and meme generators.

Warcraft 4 or a remastered Warcraft 3 would have me apologizing for my errant ways with my mouth though.