Developers Are Unhappy with PSN's Return

[DJ_Bunce]

I like the use of the word "may". I am neither pleased nor impressed with Sony or their welcome back package. On top of that, the network is still down in Japan, with no end of that in sight.

My welcome back is that far delayed I went and bought an xbox, and I there was a time I swore I would never do that...

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Hang on, so is Sony passing the buck on to the developers of the free games? Meaning, instead of eating the cost themselves, they are not letting the developers get a "sale" off the free game? That's... kind of fucked up. Or am I misreading this?

You're misreading it. The games are "free" because Sony's eating the cost of providing them.

Makes me wonder how ever will thos devs be able to afford their gold plated cars and their diamond rims lol.

 

[Photocopier]

If multiple games that I want come out, I will buy all of them. I will then play them one at a time. Just because I have a game I'm playing currently doesn't mean I can't get any other games. Silly developers

 

[Sabinfrost]

As a hardcore gamer if you release a quality game I want, I'll pick it up, I don't mind that the network has been down and that Sony are giving me free games.

 

[TxMxRonin]

I can't trust sony with a home address, let alone a credit card number...and even if I could, I would feel bad about Sony getting a cut of the money, which they use to pay lawyers that harass innocent Linux developers while ignoring the people working on piracy...so PSN cards are out of the question; I might as well donate to the KKK or some terrorists or something.

I don't feel bad for the developers either...DLCs for disk games could be done easier and safer through in-game activation codes instead of the PSN store. Not only that, but they wouldn't have to give sony a cut, a PSN crash would not affect them, and if there was a breach, it would be much smaller. As for download-only, any developer that releases a game as download-only on a single platform clearly isn't interested in getting a lot of customers to begin with...even before the network went down, there were a lot of people who never visited the PSN store anyway.

As for the free games, they are all ancient download games...Sony claimed that they worked long and hard to provide a list of disk games and not the typical Sony store BS...and then they gave us a list of typical Sony store BS, all old games that were already in the PSN store, and which are either already owned or simply unwanted by 99% of the community. If someone chooses to play these games instead of the new games, then the new games didn't deserve to sell in the first place; there are games from the Sega Genesis that I would rather have...and that is in spite of the fact that I own the "Sonic Ultimate Genesis Collection".

You shouldn't own a keyboard.

 

[Knight1172]

Microsoft and, hell, even Nintendo must be laughing themselves silly. First Sony pisses off their Customers, now they're pissing off the developers.

Just asking, but what are the chances of this reducing Sony in any major way, though? Don't they make 90% of profits from TVs, DvD Players, etc?

 

[Cenequus]

The devs who are upset can go fuck themselves. Not like THEY had their credit card info stolen. Your profits might go down? What about innocent gamer's bank accounts?


Ironic how PSN going down made me considerate to PS3 gamers.

Well thing is those devs are actually losing money(or atleast they say so) while you could just change you credit card info and lose nothing. I ahte people playing the victims over nothing.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

There's just no pleasing some people. If comsumers want to buy something, they will. The timing of release doesn't matter as much as this guy thinks.

Nonsense. Timing is extremely important. Remember Avatar? You think that would have done as well as it did if it had been released at the same time as the year's other big releases? It would have made SOME sales, but nothing compared to the huge sales it saw, largely as a result of being about the only big-budget action flick released around that time.

I don't know why any developer would even consider selling a game on PSN for at least a month. News flash: the big scare with PSN was CREDIT/DEBIT CARD information being stolen. Now, what do you need to have to make purchases online? Hmm?

Right now there are a LOT of barriers to selling games on PSN.

Lost customers:
-Former customers now suing Sony
-People who don't trust PSN with their info
-Folks busy playing free games

Not to mention new, non PSN releases which people haven't been able to go online with, like Mortal Kombat, LA Noire and others. So there's people who are just wanting to play their already-owned games on PSN. After having to cancel all their credit cards last time, it takes a certain kind of person who would be willing to do the EXACT SAME THING again and expect a different result. Especially after Sony basically said, "screw you all, these games are all you're getting from us. Never mind we waited a week to divulge vital security info to our customers, or the massive lawsuit looming over us. Nah, we can still tell our fanbase to screw off and be happy with what we give them."

I like Sony games, but I cannot stand their corporate policies, and their PR department should be fired.

 

[GeneticallyModifiedDucks]

it made me want to throw up, we lose card information, and sony are worried that we're going to play the two games they're going to give us? Microsoft are bad enough, but that's disgusting

Sony isn't complaining. It's other developers. Learn to read. (Why would Sony be complaining, they're going to increase the player base of inFamous tenfold just 2 weeks before the launch of the sequel)

 

[mikecoulter]

I have a lot of trust in Sony, when everything is back up and running I think they'll do it to a good, secure standard.

To display this trust I'll be buying a few games, as well as downloading my free games from the offer.

 

[Zom-B]

Nonsense. Timing is extremely important. Remember Avatar? You think that would have done as well as it did if it had been released at the same time as the year's other big releases? It would have made SOME sales, but nothing compared to the huge sales it saw, largely as a result of being about the only big-budget action flick released around that time.

You may have a point, but using Avatar, the highest grossing movie of all time, is silly. Avatar brought in 2.7 billion/i> dollars worldwide, almost a billion more than the previous record holder, Titanic.

If you think any of the other top nine grossing films of 2009 had even a chance of affecting Avatar... well, I don't know what that says about you, but I really think you're wrong on this one. Avatar was a juggernaut that nothing could stop.

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[Saelune]

The devs who are upset can go fuck themselves. Not like THEY had their credit card info stolen. Your profits might go down? What about innocent gamer's bank accounts?


Ironic how PSN going down made me considerate to PS3 gamers.

Well thing is those devs are actually losing money(or atleast they say so) while you could just change you credit card info and lose nothing. I ahte people playing the victims over nothing.

The devs should just make good games. I realize that making games is a buisness, but that doesnt mean they should just not give a crap over the players. Bad enough we already have EA and Activision being the evil soulless corperations. We dont need more. I can only be so lenient with the devs.

 

[samsonguy920]

Developers are being a bit over self-entitled here and seriously off the mark in their thinking. The attacks on Sony hurt players more than it did Sony, so Sony is doing this to try to keep the customer base up so it doesn't end up actually hurting Sony. And players aren't going to be playing only the free games. Seriously. There's a lot of stuff out now and coming out that players are quite eager to play on the PS3.
But feel free to whine, devs and pubs. Sony will feel free to drop you from their system if you don't like what they are doing. Then you can whine about losing a third of your sales.

Okay this is new

never seen it go all vertical on me.

ReCaptcha seems to be getting to the point where only machines can read their gibberish(which seems to defeat the purpose). I'm kinda wishing that would get thrown out of the forums.

 

[Revolutionary]

I guess I'd be kind of annoyed if I was a Dev effected by this, Oh well I'm all pumped for my free stuff.

 

[Paul Hearding]

If I put all my time and livelihood on the line developing a game, then I might be miffed too if it was lost in this whole PSN debacle.

The game industry (as well as the movie industry...and well, pretty much any capitalism-based industry) seems to make a lot of money off of hype these days. So, while all the hardcore-gamers will buy a *great* game that will stand up on its own merits, the bulk of the money isn't made from the hardcore gamers. The bulk of it comes with the initial rush, backed by hype.

I mean, if you spent a good year or two of your life developing a game and all of a sudden the amount of money you were going to make off of it was cut drastically, I'm sure you could see where they are coming from...

 

[Live4Lotus]

I can't trust sony with a home address, let alone a credit card number...and even if I could, I would feel bad about Sony getting a cut of the money, which they use to pay lawyers that harass innocent Linux developers while ignoring the people working on piracy...so PSN cards are out of the question; I might as well donate to the KKK or some terrorists or something.

Did you seriously just compare Sony to the KKK and terrorist organizations?

I'm sorry, but that's just flat out idiotic.

In the sense that it is wrong to give money to an organization who will spend that money on evil projects, then yes, they are in the same boat.

In the sense that Sony attacks have hurt me personally, yet neither the KKK nor any terrorist ever has, Sony is actually worse, at least for me personally.

Let me restate more clearly...ME giving money to Sony is like a victim of Sept 11 giving money to Al Qaeda...obviously not in scale, but in principal.

...And no, I won't give money to Sony, the KKK, or Al Qaeda...but if I was forced to choose one, I think my money would go to buy crosses to burn.