Devin Faraci - Guy who called us terrorists

[Velventian]

Ok i`ve seen this pop up more and more and i get it, being compared to ISIS, the KKK and all the other insults it´s hard to stay calm.
But a lot of people are playing his game without even knowing it.

Forget that guy, honestly just ignore him.
Finlay the whole situation is cooling down enough that we can start discussing things in a calm an civil manner.
But that guy just wants to fuck you up, he wants you to get angry again and loose your cool.

He claims that his boss stands 100% behind him and by now i am starting to think it might be true. So maybe we have no chance to get someone to shut him up because of PR reasons but of course you can still try

But don´t let him bait you into an argument.
Maybe you know they saying:
Don`t pick a fight with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Just ignore him, no re tweets, no nothing, just don`t give him any exposure whatsoever and don`t let him get to you.
This is a man who built an career around insulting people.

https://twitter.com/devincf/

http://imgur.com/a/j8P3l

https://twitter.com/devincf/status/505220941777891328
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/503645433504071682
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/503647651103899648
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/505843640795529216
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/505829555550973952
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/505816952476954624

Edit*
Ok since this has popped up often enough now. I am aware that calling to ignore someone in thread specifically about that person isn`t quite the tactic thats gonna win me the superbowl.
Ignoring him is meant as not to respond to his twitter and such. Every tweet from someone even just trying to debate with him will be turned into an insult and used as ammunition.
So if he posts more of his slur talk about it if you want but don´t give him more retweets or let him embarrass you in front of his audience because trust me he will do that.

 

[SirDerpy]

...What?

Sorry, somebody's going to have to explain to me what this is about. Is this about something that occurred in the Godzilla-size thread, or something?

You can't really have discussion value without context, you know...

 

[Velventian]

...What?

Sorry, somebody's going to have to explain to me what this is about. Is this about something that occurred in the Godzilla-size thread, or something?

You can't really have discussion value without context, you know...

Sorry my bad i forgot the links, basically ever since that entered the current discussion all he did was trying to derail.
Started of with him comparing "anti-quinn" people to the terrorist group ISIS and by now he`s just insulting all gamers as KKK and such.

And his newest masterpiece "you must speak in simple, metaphor-free sentences to gamers" basically calling all gamers dumb.

https://twitter.com/devincf/status/505829555550973952

 

[Colour Scientist]

If you want people to ignore him, making a thread about him possibly isn't the most efficient method of achieving that.

 

[Sea Sponge]

Easily ignored seeing as I haven't got the slightest clue who he is.

 

[Velventian]

If you want people to ignore him, making a thread about him possibly isn't the most efficient method of achieving that.

I know that, which is why i haven´t done so for the last 2 days. But to me it seems like he is starting to escalate and that can turn bad very fast.
And i mostly meant ignore him on twitter or his sites.
Sure people will still get angry at what he says but it would be better if they went their anger here instead of falling for his trap and responding on twitter.

I also had hoped by starting a thread about him might pull posts about him from the "Zoe Quinn and the surrounding controversy" thread. That thread has turned into a great platform for debate and i don`t want his hate speech to poison the effort that´s building there.

 

[Mikeybb]

Taking in the content of his tweets, it seems to be little more than trolling designed to entertain his friends and followers.

In this he's as guilty as any of those he criticizes for doing it.

It deserves no response, but it should be discussed as his behavior is, it seems, only justified in his eyes and that of his followers and friends because he is on the 'right' side.

 

[Zhukov]

Called you a terrorist buddy, not me. Not "us".

Given that I possess none of the qualities that he was referring to, or possess them in minimal quantities, I am entirely confident that I am not the target of his comments.

Also...

You guys keep making all these threads about how various people are insulting "us" as if they're insulting everyone on this site or something. You should really stop doing that, because it's kind of insulting in its own way.

As far as I can tell, this particular "insult" was talking specifically about people who are being two faced, who are using a "legitimate concern" to mask their horrible behavior as being justified, and stating that at least with ISIS, you actually know where you stand with them, because they're completely upfront about what they're doing and how horrible they really are. Is it still extreme and hyperbolic? Sure it is. But your side has had plenty of people who have been just as bad, and those tend to be the people they are (semi)privately insulting. However, I don't see you creating threads calling them out for it. Nor do I see the other side creating threads calling them out about it. And yet, I constantly see complaints from your side about harassment. You're not being harassed, you're going out of your way to find excuses to claim you are being harassed, and spreading it all over public forums, such as this one, just so we all know just how much harassment you (and us too, apparently) are facing. And you doing so had gotten old a week ago.

^ ...what this fine, sterling individual said.

I thought you folks were all for having thick skins. Y'know, "Geez, calm down ya pussies, it's just a few death threats on the internet. Stop being a professional victim!"

Funny how skins suddenly get a whole lot thinner all round when the opposition starts to return fire.

 

[Zhukov]

there is no caveat on this statement:

There is to someone who does not charge around frantically declaring themselves to be a "gamer".

Or "real gamer" as people often say.

It's kind of like how I don't identify myself as a "shoe-wearer" despite the fact that I do in fact wear shoes from time to time. Two of them even. Almost every day.

These people are referring to a specific kind of gamer, and you know it. Of course, if you feel the need to throw yourself into that category then that's entirely up to you.

 

[AJ_Lethal]

Sorry, but anyone who thinks they are doing any sort of social justice by resorting to the same tactics bigoted assholes are using does not make them heroes, it makes them hypocrites.

 

[AJ_Lethal]

Sorry, but anyone who thinks they are doing any sort of social justice by resorting to the same tactics bigoted assholes are using does not make them heroes, it makes them hypocrites.

And again, no one is actually holding them up as heroes, so your point is rather moot.

Have you heard of "self-aggrandation"? They start from there.

 

[DC_78]

Snipp

I love how we still get wrapped up in the SJW stuff. Censorship is bad. Doxxing, harassment, Rape/death threats are bad. Whos says otherwise?

Normally I would agree with you Zeconte. Why should I take responsibility for a troll? I am not a troll so a thread saying trolls are vile pieces of dirt does not affect me. I remember a Jimquisition when he talks about some FPS Dev getting death threats. I thought, "that is horrible. Why would some basement dweller do that? Is it that important?" I did not feel threatened, or even honestly really cared. Then the journalists started painting with a wider brush.

The articles written about the "Death of Gamers" are no better than someone commenting on Ferguson saying to a black man, "Well the thugs that looted deserve what they got from the police. You do not see us getting so upset when X happened by the police and rioting do you? Maybe the protestors there should police their own and clean up their own culture." And then going, "But not you." Or any rant on violence in video games leading to real life violence we have seen a thousand times before. There is no interest in those articles in picking out the bad apples. They are saying the basket is rotten and they want to start over.

But that said, I self identify as a gamer. I am biased. Basically your argument against this is you saying I should not be so upset unless I am part of the problem. Well who are you to say what should or should not upset me? I am not a troll/hacker/misogynist/whatever. It is dismissive and would not fly anywhere else.

And the excuse given by those not upset is, "well they said that about them. Not me personally. So if you take offense then you are the problem obviously." Which is bull. It is a cop out. Folks that wrote those articles meant all of us, because they are sick of the criticism. They enjoy being the gatekeepers between games and the consumer. They love their internet power and influence over an industry. It is making them and their friends money.

But the gamers make it sooo hard. They want answers and accountability when all the journalists want is to promote inclusive games with women as the main character. Bull. They blacked out discussion of a click bait topic that if it was not a member of their clique involved they would have posted. Please tell me I am wrong when on the front page is an article about the new X-man director's sex scandal. People filed false DMCA's to censor topics. Which they then censored discussion on as well. The big thread is about a lot of things rotten in the gaming media the least of which is some PC agenda.

 

[AJ_Lethal]

Sorry, but anyone who thinks they are doing any sort of social justice by resorting to the same tactics bigoted assholes are using does not make them heroes, it makes them hypocrites.

And again, no one is actually holding them up as heroes, so your point is rather moot.

Have you heard of "self-aggrandation"? They start from there.

So.. they consider themselves heroes, and because no one spreads the gospel of how heroic they are far and wide, that makes it perfectly justified for you to spread the gospel of how horrible they are far and wide? That doesn't really compute.

More like "gullible people sucking that shit up and applying unseen amounts of cognitive dissonance". They only care about the ends, not the means.

The thing is, no one here is claiming that labeling and dehumanization and abuse is perfectly justified/isn't wrong. All we're claiming is that it happens on both sides, and it's wrong from both sides. However, I specifically am pointing out that no one is going out of their way to label or dehumanize or abuse your side of things on this website, but your side is perfectly willing to go out of your way to label and dehumanize and abuse the other side of things on this website. That the labeling and dehumanizing and abuse, from my perspective, is entirely coming from your side, not the SJW side, and any evidence of labeling and dehumanizing and abuse from the SJW side, has been brought to this site by you guys from outside sources, whereas you guys post your hatred of SJW's quite freely and frequently on this site of your own accord.

I didn't know calling people out for their actions was dehumanizing and labelling. And thanks for lumping me with the assholes, in an astonishing act of projection. Bravo *claps slowly*

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Just ignore him, no re tweets, no nothing, just don`t give him any exposure whatsoever and don`t let him get to you.
This is a man who built an career around insulting people.

I hope the irony of this isn't lost on you.

 

[GenuflectHonesty]

Except I never claimed someone claiming to be some nice sounding thing means they are. Again, that's a complete strawman on your part. What I'm saying is, that there's pricks on both sides, but that the pricks on the SJW side seems to keep themselves on twitter, whereas the pricks on the anti-SJW side seem to come to the escapist and make threads about "look at this SJW prick, the whole SJW movement is so contemptible because of people like this."

Who's strawmanning who now? Nobody in the Zoe Quinn thread is doing this and we aren't "anti-SJW".

 

[AJ_Lethal]

Zeconte here's a challenge...maybe you go read all mr faraci posts, in context, over the last few days. lemmie know how that works out....dodn't forget the whole boogioe angle...hell, the man even managed to abuse bomb movie bobs own multipart, grovelling but insincere apology for being associated with him.

let's up the ante:

Go ahead, I would like somebody trying to defend this shit. Just do it.

 

[DC_78]

I mean, seriously, the main argument people seem to have against both Moviebob and Faraci is that they weren't specific enough in who they were calling out for being pricks, that their generalizations could be taken to include people who were not pricks. Yet, all the outrage is focused on them for that, with none focused on the pricks that prompted them to make those comments in the first place. And yet I'm the bad guy here for finding that fact strange and pointing it out?

So we are blaming the victim for lashing out is that your case? In the ISIS one Faraci were responding literally to people telling them about Anita. Not people being dicks to them. It was their opinion of the hackers maybe? Sure why not. Why use gamers then?

See, the thing is, the thugs who looted did deserve to have heavy handed police action taken against them. Even the peaceful protestors agreed with that, and used heavy handed tactics to thwart them whenever they could, while still arguing that such heavy handed tactics didn't deserve to be used against them. That's what separates them from you. Well, that and, you know, the fact that they suffered actual physical harm and oppression, whereas you did not. The fact that you would compare yourselves to them while decrying the comparison to ISIS is highly ironic, if I do say so myself.

No I compared us to an average black man listening to someone talk about Ferguson. In the text above there friend, "someone commenting on Ferguson saying to A black man." So please stop that feigned outrage.

 

[GenuflectHonesty]

but that's imply because all the people who were doing it have since been banned for doing it and/or are creating new threads to do so in.

a. that's not simple and b. its not true.

Actually I'll be fair to Zeconte on this point Sleekit, some of the early parts of the Zoe Quinn thread were really bad about this. It moved away from it when people started focusing on the important things, but there were a lot of bans in the thread for a reason.

 

[DC_78]

but that's imply because all the people who were doing it have since been banned for doing it and/or are creating new threads to do so in.

a. that's not simple and b. its not true.

Actually I'll be fair to Zeconte on this point Sleekit, some of the early parts of the Zoe Quinn thread were really bad about this. It moved away from it when people started focusing on the important things, but there were a lot of bans in the thread for a reason.

Yes we policed ourselves so to speak without having any real power and shutdown the troll baiting Anita/feminism stuff to focus on journalism and the bad rap gamers are getting from this.

But again does not matter. Because we are evil anonymous hackers because no one can denounce the bad trolls on our side and we have to *Threats and rape are bad* every conversation just so the people that we talk to do not just throw misogynist around like every gamer is one.

 

[Brian Tams]

Yeah, Faraci was a gigantic whopping dick to say that he had more respect for ISIS than some people acting in a questionable manner on the interwebz. It also either shows a disturbing lack of information about what's happening in Iraq this very second (you know, ISIS destabilizing the region, rolling into towns and executing whole families, beheading journalists, and actively raping and enslaving women), or just show-cased the biggest case of First World Privilege the world has ever seen.

Not entirely sure which is more pathetic. To casually make such a comment like that was disgusting. Real, innocent people are dying right now in Iraq. I'll take any amount of sexist internet trolls over ISIS any day of the week.

EDIT-I've also stayed clean from the debate raging on right now. Its just that it infuriates me that Devin Faraci's comment is going to get swept under the rug and lost below the blazing seas of the debate. It shouldn't. He needs to be held accountable for saying that. Faraci should be grateful that the only problems he has to face today are assholes on the internet.