Diablo III Looked Heavenly in 2005

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Exort said:
Mister Benoit said:
Scrumpmonkey said:
Diablo 2 came out in 2000, 2005 is well enough time and space to have another one. It sounds to me like they just canned a project that they could have completed in this timeframe and picked up another one a couple of years later that would become this version of D-III (i wonder why things got scrapped in 2005.... hmmm...)
World of Warcraft started exploding, also the heads at blizz north left and they relocated the team at the new offices.

I'm pretty sure it has to mostly do with WoW though, noone had any idea that the game was going to be THAT big, seriously, WoW is absolutely massive.
Key Blizzard north Employees start leaving at 2003 not 2005. WoW was not even release yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_North
"However on June 30, 2003, several key employees left Blizzard North"
It was well along it's way though. Also this:

August 1, 2005. 5 Gamespot:
The team behind the enormously popular Diablo franchise--most recently known as Blizzard North, the Bay Area outpost of Irvine, Calif-based Blizzard Entertainment--has been officially shuttered. Arguably, the office was moribund for months, those with ties to the Diablo franchise having departed months or even years ago to form studios of their own. In a statement today, Blizzard president and founder Mike Morhaime said the relocation will "improve our efficiency as a company" and "represents an opportunity for all of our teams to have regular, direct input on each other's projects." Those from Blizzard North who were offered relocation packages "will continue work on an unannounced project," which most believe is the third installment in the hugely popular Diablo series.
Many employees took the offer to remain with Blizzard and relocate to Irvine. Others did not, and many more joined Flagship Studios, or looked for other work in the Bay Area.

They were having communication problems between studios and didn't like the direction the "unannounced" game being developed there was going, pretty sure we can take a guess at what that was.

I'm guessing by the time they relocated everyone and such WoW was building a lot of momentum being it had been released for almost a year. Blizzard put a lot of things on the back burner. I don't think it's so much a case of not having enough developers/artists/programmers but having to start a customer support branch of the company in order to support their absurd player base, something they did not have prior experience in.
 

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y is kratos in one of those D3 screenshots? o_O
Oh, the Barbarian has been around for quite a bit longer than Kratos.
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The older version looks better. Looks more like Diablo and the detail is nicer. The new one looks like everything else in the world: effects-lighting-saturated sameness.

It is often the first sign of the decline of a huge (notice I did not say "great") entertainment company, that they scrap a good project they have already spent millions on, to start making "executive decisions" aimed at a more commercial project.
 

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fabulocco said:
It's outrageous (and nearly IMPOSSIBLE) for someone from the outside of the game's dev circle to possibly state the whatnots of a decision of the caliber of art direction, for there are many more elements involved than you can possibly conceive! These people are paid to do this, and make a lot of effort to make the best decisions they can.

So stop trolling and just wait for the thing to release. If even then you don't like it, don't buy it, and thats it.
A lot of people (myself included) have been waiting a long time for the sequel to Diablo II. I don't think it's unreasonable for us to want it done right.
 

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I prefer the art style of the old version. If it looked like that but had the graphic quality of the 2010 version I'd be happy.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
so they went from making it look like diablo to making it look like wow... fantastic cause the world needed more wow >.>
 

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fundayz said:
Xzi said:
I don't see where people are getting the idea that it looks like WoW from. All the environments remain pretty much dark grey/dark red. The only things that bring any color to it are the character abilities.
Really? Diablo 3 looks less "Demon-worshipping, virgin-sacrificing temple" and more "Family Scare Themepark".

just look at these fan comparisons:
http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/diablo-3-screenshot-big.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/i/itshouldrh5.jpg/
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/22868/881061-d3_wow_g_super.jpg

If you can't see how the new style deviates from the old diablo style towards WoW style then there's not much left to say.
These fan images show just that someone with free time that knows how to use hue/saturation and curves on photoshop thinks they know anything about art direction and game design. please, take no offense, but this is ridiculous.
 

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Because god forbid Blizzard want to actually make sure the game is completely polished before they release it instead of churning out some barely-tested piece of crap.

Also what's with the colour scheme hate? has it become a crime to make a game with a colour selection that goes above 100,100,100?
 

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Has it been that long?

Gota say I loved Diablo 2 and I don't mind if Blizzard dont crank out Diablo titles like theres no tomorrow, if they had gone the God of War way what number would we be at now? Not braced for disapointment at all, I recognise games have moved on from what Diablo 2 was. I'm sure Blizzard will do it justice with Diablo 3.
 

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fabulocco said:
These fan images show just that someone with free time that knows how to use hue/saturation and curves on photoshop thinks they know anything about art direction and game design. please, take no offense, but this is ridiculous.
You are missing the point. It's not about art direction, it's about staying true to a franchise.
The new art style is most definitely not true to the Diablo games.
 

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Angerwing said:
They'd show you dark, gritty and intense. Now we're getting "Tuckahoe Fun Land, the magic factory where dreams are made."




 

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Aeshi said:
Because god forbid Blizzard want to actually make sure the game is completely polished before they release it instead of churning out some barely-tested piece of crap.

Also what's with the colour scheme hate? has it become a crime to make a game with a colour selection that goes above 100,100,100?
People do not have a problem with the number of colors used, people have a problem with the palette of colors used.

As was linked above:



Shows a higher variation in shades and more dynamic use of color while maintaining the old aesthetic style of the original Diablo games.

Diablo 3 looks blurry and washed out, with a color filter tinting the ambient light for the entire scene which makes it look drab and flat,
 

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KEM10 said:
But, you always have a choice...of turning it off
Turning what off? The trailer? Doesn't change the fact that it's terrible.

Also, thanks for not addressing the cheesiness point. Only proves how futile trying to do that would be.
No, I see that they both have their cheesy points, but you tried to push it away from the gameplay and more to the trailer so I tried to keep in step.
 

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y is kratos in one of those D3 screenshots? o_O
Oh, the Barbarian has been around for quite a bit longer than Kratos.
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its a joke as in the 5th picture of the new D3 looks like a typical kratos pose. sheesh.

p.s. wtf with the giant picture links? o_O
 

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Mister Benoit said:
Exort said:
Mister Benoit said:
Scrumpmonkey said:
Diablo 2 came out in 2000, 2005 is well enough time and space to have another one. It sounds to me like they just canned a project that they could have completed in this timeframe and picked up another one a couple of years later that would become this version of D-III (i wonder why things got scrapped in 2005.... hmmm...)
World of Warcraft started exploding, also the heads at blizz north left and they relocated the team at the new offices.

I'm pretty sure it has to mostly do with WoW though, noone had any idea that the game was going to be THAT big, seriously, WoW is absolutely massive.
Key Blizzard north Employees start leaving at 2003 not 2005. WoW was not even release yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_North
"However on June 30, 2003, several key employees left Blizzard North"
It was well along it's way though. Also this:

August 1, 2005. 5 Gamespot:
The team behind the enormously popular Diablo franchise--most recently known as Blizzard North, the Bay Area outpost of Irvine, Calif-based Blizzard Entertainment--has been officially shuttered. Arguably, the office was moribund for months, those with ties to the Diablo franchise having departed months or even years ago to form studios of their own. In a statement today, Blizzard president and founder Mike Morhaime said the relocation will "improve our efficiency as a company" and "represents an opportunity for all of our teams to have regular, direct input on each other's projects." Those from Blizzard North who were offered relocation packages "will continue work on an unannounced project," which most believe is the third installment in the hugely popular Diablo series.
Many employees took the offer to remain with Blizzard and relocate to Irvine. Others did not, and many more joined Flagship Studios, or looked for other work in the Bay Area.

They were having communication problems between studios and didn't like the direction the "unannounced" game being developed there was going, pretty sure we can take a guess at what that was.

I'm guessing by the time they relocated everyone and such WoW was building a lot of momentum being it had been released for almost a year. Blizzard put a lot of things on the back burner. I don't think it's so much a case of not having enough developers/artists/programmers but having to start a customer support branch of the company in order to support their absurd player base, something they did not have prior experience in.
The communication problem is with Vivendi not Blizzard.
A interview with Bill Roper, one of the big four of Blizzard North (read Key employee).
"Actually, we didn't plan on leaving Blizzard, but that's the way things ended up working out. Basically, we were looking for a higher level of involvement concerning the sale of the Vivendi Universal Games unit and felt we had to go as far as tendering our resignations to try and open a direct line of communication with the decision makers in France. It was difficult to plan for our futures, and the futures of our co-workers, and with no long-term compensation or employment contracts in place, we wanted to be able to interact directly with the people making the key decisions that could drastically affect our lives and workplace.

In the end, Vivendi chose not to make that opportunity available and accepted our resignations over the matter. But going forward, we look at this as a great new opportunity to start all over again doing something we love. Life threw us a curve but, to use a baseball analogy, we're aiming to drive it out of the park."


I heard many different rumor on why old diablo 3 was cancaled.

Brian Crecente reported on Kotaku (which is the same site that leak these screen shots) that this version of Diablo 3 is below expectations.

Chris Hartgraves, former Blizzard employee, says there are two different player faction, which were heaven and Hell. Items have two versions, which are light for Heaven and Darkness for hell. The rumors on the forums were that, as you might have guess it, it conflict with WoW. Diablo 3 and WoW was too similiar, and Blizzard want all their games to coexist.
This email Chris sended to GamingSteve.com also include some WoW patch note which many turned out to be true.


On other note, Flux of http://diablo.incgamers.com/ said that these Screen shot doesn't look like the ones he saw at Blizzard North in 2003 and 2005. Maybe fake screens shots?
Flux know many developer at Blizzard. His name is also in Diablo 2 as an Iron Wolf mercenaries (along with many diablo fansite webmaster that visit Blizzard North many times).
 

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Are the sources for this confirmed? Because I think the first set of pictures look to be faked. Some shots look very reminiscent in terms of character models to the old Baldur's Gate games, and the GUI looks superimposed. Also, the camera angles in some shots are rather different than others, and I can't see Diablo having shifting camera angles like that, since none have in the past and I have heard nothing about it for the present game either.

Not jumping to conclusions, they could be real, but if it was shown to me anywhere else I'd cry fake.