I think a few places got hit directly with nukes. Other places might have been hit with nucleur fallout.
Did anywhere NOT get nuked in Fallout?
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Still it's odd.Lasers seem more promising for the future. You are not limited by anything other than power supply.
Michio Kaku in his "Science of the impossible" series mentioned that lasers have huge potential as weapons even going as far as destroying asteroids or possibly planets.
Michio Kaku in his "Science of the impossible" series mentioned that lasers have huge potential as weapons even going as far as destroying asteroids or possibly planets.
Well, FO3 is partially inspired by the Mad Max movie, so I'd say that sounds about right.Kimarous said:
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Umm...John the Gamer said:
The half-life of the Uranium isotope used in all nuclear missiles nowdays has a half-life of 250,000 years. It's not like Chernobyl or even Hiroshima; those guys got off lucky compared to what we have today.
You know, irradiation is a method used to preserve food...Calbeck said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_irradiation
Ok, while not everywhere was nuked, most population centers were and the places that weren't have been screwed by the radiation/break down of society.Josh12345 said:
The only place completely unaffected was the Enclave headquaters that lied in the middle of the sea, and it was built there for that very reason.
Consider this: According to a character in New Vegas, 77 warheads targeted Vegas and the surrounding area. In the entire Mojave area, there are few targets of strategic worth (in approximate order of their strategic value):
Nellis AFB (Houses significant air power assets that could be used in a counter attack or any future military operation)
Hoover Damn (Provides power and flood control. Destruction of this asset would cause region wide blackouts and brownouts reducing the effectiveness of any activity in the region for a significant period of time)
Las Vegas (Home to ~2,000,000 people. The economic impact of the destruction of such a city is minimal as is the military impact as the economy of the city is based almost entirely around vice and tourism rather than meaningful production).
That's really it. Three targets. Three nukes is all it would take. If China allotted 77 to the region, then I suspect you get a sense of the scale of the war. Hell, DC should have been dust not rubble. The same would go for major industrial and economic centers. That means NYC, Detroit, Pittsburgh, LA, Seattle, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta - all of them would be dust.
This leads to a key problem with the fallout universe: a lack of logical consistency. If Vegas warranted 77 nukes, why didn't Pittsburgh, former home of the US steel industry (and, if the game is to be believed, still home in 2077 when the bombs fell) warrant at least a few?
The bottom line is simple enough: there are several thousand targets of strategic worth in the US, from ports to population centers, to industrial centers to military targets. The three targets in Vegas were more than 20 apiece. That implies that the exchange sent tens, if not hundreds of thousands of bombs to the US alone. You can bet the US responded in kind. Any nation not hit would suffer the perils of nuclear winter, extreme fallout, sudden power vacuum, and an utter lack of energy resources. The war was, after all, the result of the inevitable depletion of oil reserves. Before the great war, the Middle East destroyed itself in a local nuclear exchange.
So, to put it simply, even if a nation wasn't hit with a bomb, it certainly all but fell apart in the aftermath. The fallout lore more or less indicates the world of humanity all but ended inside of a few hours. Few who were not protected by a vault (or an equivalent) survived.
Nellis AFB (Houses significant air power assets that could be used in a counter attack or any future military operation)
Hoover Damn (Provides power and flood control. Destruction of this asset would cause region wide blackouts and brownouts reducing the effectiveness of any activity in the region for a significant period of time)
Las Vegas (Home to ~2,000,000 people. The economic impact of the destruction of such a city is minimal as is the military impact as the economy of the city is based almost entirely around vice and tourism rather than meaningful production).
That's really it. Three targets. Three nukes is all it would take. If China allotted 77 to the region, then I suspect you get a sense of the scale of the war. Hell, DC should have been dust not rubble. The same would go for major industrial and economic centers. That means NYC, Detroit, Pittsburgh, LA, Seattle, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta - all of them would be dust.
This leads to a key problem with the fallout universe: a lack of logical consistency. If Vegas warranted 77 nukes, why didn't Pittsburgh, former home of the US steel industry (and, if the game is to be believed, still home in 2077 when the bombs fell) warrant at least a few?
The bottom line is simple enough: there are several thousand targets of strategic worth in the US, from ports to population centers, to industrial centers to military targets. The three targets in Vegas were more than 20 apiece. That implies that the exchange sent tens, if not hundreds of thousands of bombs to the US alone. You can bet the US responded in kind. Any nation not hit would suffer the perils of nuclear winter, extreme fallout, sudden power vacuum, and an utter lack of energy resources. The war was, after all, the result of the inevitable depletion of oil reserves. Before the great war, the Middle East destroyed itself in a local nuclear exchange.
So, to put it simply, even if a nation wasn't hit with a bomb, it certainly all but fell apart in the aftermath. The fallout lore more or less indicates the world of humanity all but ended inside of a few hours. Few who were not protected by a vault (or an equivalent) survived.
wow that sounds fun. All the penguins have thumbs ,are 8 feet tall, with assualt rifles.Assassin Xaero said:
scene#1 you hach out of a big egg and pick your stats and perks.
then you know the rest. also what kind of story might it have?
Hmmm , I wonder.Does fallout lore mention space programs ?
A base on the moon maybe ? I am unsure what resources it has but I do know it has Helium-3 - which can be used for nuclear fusion - that means power.
Add a greenhouse , water recycling and a farm and there you go.
A base on the moon maybe ? I am unsure what resources it has but I do know it has Helium-3 - which can be used for nuclear fusion - that means power.
Add a greenhouse , water recycling and a farm and there you go.
Ok. So, what, 70 odd nukes where launched, dropped, or otherwise "used" against Vegas. These were shot down thanks to the efforts of the universe's equivalent Bill Gates.
Vegas is not a strategic target.
From this we can tell:
1. Significantly more nuclear weapons would be utilized against more strategic targets. So, New York might have a similar defence system, but it's going to suffer the same flaw as the infamous Star Wars system. (ie, the Chinese have more missiles than they have anti-missiles)
2. Less strategic targets are also going to have their share of nukes lobbed at them. Some places, like Pittsburgh, get lucky, either because they happened to be lower on the Chinese list, or the missiles were intercepted, but even then, they're going to suffer from fallout and other such stuff.
So, what does this leave?
-Smaller Towns and Villages, but they're still going to suffer the after-effects of the war.
-Neutral countries, but they're likely to descend into either a dictatorship or some form of anarchy, because they'll rely too heavily on outside influence. (For example, a nation such as Zimbabwe could probably hang onto civilization by the sheer personality of their leader, but if he dies without a clear successor, or simply an incompetent one, the countries going to collapse)
As a future weapon, it'd need to compete with Mass Drivers, which give all the advantages of a conventional firearm, with a significantly higher muzzle velocity, and a much lower ammunition cost.
As for destroying asteroids or planets.... no. Sorry, that's not going to happen. Like I said, a laser beam can't carry a warhead. The idea that you can fire a beam at an asteroid, then it'll explode, is strictly sci-fi, I'm afraid. The most you can do on demand is make a neat little hole through the middle. Maybe given enough time, you cut it in half, but then what? You've got two asteroids half the size that're heading towards earth! In many ways that's even worse! D=
Vegas is not a strategic target.
From this we can tell:
1. Significantly more nuclear weapons would be utilized against more strategic targets. So, New York might have a similar defence system, but it's going to suffer the same flaw as the infamous Star Wars system. (ie, the Chinese have more missiles than they have anti-missiles)
2. Less strategic targets are also going to have their share of nukes lobbed at them. Some places, like Pittsburgh, get lucky, either because they happened to be lower on the Chinese list, or the missiles were intercepted, but even then, they're going to suffer from fallout and other such stuff.
So, what does this leave?
-Smaller Towns and Villages, but they're still going to suffer the after-effects of the war.
-Neutral countries, but they're likely to descend into either a dictatorship or some form of anarchy, because they'll rely too heavily on outside influence. (For example, a nation such as Zimbabwe could probably hang onto civilization by the sheer personality of their leader, but if he dies without a clear successor, or simply an incompetent one, the countries going to collapse)
Lasers aren't really that great as weapons. The only attempts to weaponize lasers thus far have been as CIWS, by the USAF and IDF, both attemps have been disbanded. A laser beam can't carry a warhead, so it's easily rendered obsolete by the most simple decoys. Lasers are much more temperamental about the stuff they do hit (a properly designed projectile could easily survive an attack by the system). They're also stupidly huge compared to conventional CIWS. The Boeing YAL-1 weights over 39 thousand pounds, over twice that of the soviet AK-630 system, and almost 4 times that of the newer American Phalanx system.razing32 said:
As a future weapon, it'd need to compete with Mass Drivers, which give all the advantages of a conventional firearm, with a significantly higher muzzle velocity, and a much lower ammunition cost.
As for destroying asteroids or planets.... no. Sorry, that's not going to happen. Like I said, a laser beam can't carry a warhead. The idea that you can fire a beam at an asteroid, then it'll explode, is strictly sci-fi, I'm afraid. The most you can do on demand is make a neat little hole through the middle. Maybe given enough time, you cut it in half, but then what? You've got two asteroids half the size that're heading towards earth! In many ways that's even worse! D=