Well Graphics have their limit, you can't look better than real life, so I also believe their will be not 9th gen. Also I hope that next-gen doesn't act as a cable box, I already have one of those I don't need 3 in the same room.Crono1973 said:
Did handheld gaming just die?
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The cost is killing it for me.
When I'm expected to throw down $60 for a handheld game that's where I draw the line. There's just so much on offer on smartphones, that are actually games I would want to play on the go, that I can get for $1. Not to mention on a device I already have paid for so I don't need to add the extra $250 for the device itself, so it saves me space since I generally don't carry a bag with me when I am on the move.
Not to mention the much wider selection of games, I really want to get a Vita, but at the moment I can't justify the cost of the system with the games it has on offer (just yet anyway).
When I'm expected to throw down $60 for a handheld game that's where I draw the line. There's just so much on offer on smartphones, that are actually games I would want to play on the go, that I can get for $1. Not to mention on a device I already have paid for so I don't need to add the extra $250 for the device itself, so it saves me space since I generally don't carry a bag with me when I am on the move.
Not to mention the much wider selection of games, I really want to get a Vita, but at the moment I can't justify the cost of the system with the games it has on offer (just yet anyway).
Sony don't seem to know how to make good games for handhelds, and tend to make weird ass ports of games on the PS2/PS3. As for Nintendo...they're still putting the same shit out as they always have, but people still seem to be buying the fuck out of it all.
Sony seems to be squandering their handheld console by making about 95% of its titles bite-sized PS3 games unless you import I assume. As for Nintendo, their 3DS is doing better now than it was about a year ago when it launched. It just released a new model for example and unlike the PSV; has exclusives that you can't just get on the Wii or Wii-U (New Super Mario Bros 2 being the exception...also the Virtual Console games I suppose). Yes, the 3DS is getting shovel-ware but you aren't forced to buy them just like any other game. Also if there isn't a 3DS game out yet that you're interested in there's a huge library of DS games that you can play on the 3DS like Contra 4, Fire Emblem, Professor Layton, Elite Beat Agents etc.
If neither console tickles your fancy then I'm going to assume you have either an ipod touch or, smart phone. You can play games on those too granted the novelty of mobile gaming has kind of warn off for me. I just love me some tactile feedback no matter how cathartic Fruit Ninja is.
If neither console tickles your fancy then I'm going to assume you have either an ipod touch or, smart phone. You can play games on those too granted the novelty of mobile gaming has kind of warn off for me. I just love me some tactile feedback no matter how cathartic Fruit Ninja is.
Well, whats the big complaint about the Wii U? Too little too late? The idea that the Wii U "only" has as much graphical power as the PS3 and because of that will fail when the PS4/Nextbox come out because they will have superior graphical capabilities. So I would say in the eyes of the consumer graphics are one of the major sellers for a console. While processing power can increase the loading times of a game, and the number of things that can be on screen at the same time, there is a limit there as well. You can't load something faster than instant, and there is no reason to have more objects on the screen than the player can see and process.TheKasp said:
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Depends on your definition for dead. The ones that come to my mind would be:
-Dead as a "hardcore" Gaming platform (Which in that case It's pretty much dead excluding the 3DS exclusives (Gee wonder why they're exclusive, OH WAIT))
-Dead as in few people are using them like walkman's and Ipod's (including touches) Then It's not dead yet, but it'll fall eventually with the increase of smart phones, and they learn how to make it work as a half decent gaming platform.
NOTE: Im mostly talking about majority. the 2% of the people in the universe who still have walkmans don't count nor do the 25% with Ipods.
-Dead as a "hardcore" Gaming platform (Which in that case It's pretty much dead excluding the 3DS exclusives (Gee wonder why they're exclusive, OH WAIT))
-Dead as in few people are using them like walkman's and Ipod's (including touches) Then It's not dead yet, but it'll fall eventually with the increase of smart phones, and they learn how to make it work as a half decent gaming platform.
NOTE: Im mostly talking about majority. the 2% of the people in the universe who still have walkmans don't count nor do the 25% with Ipods.
The promise of FFX on vita may get me to purchase one. It'd have to be backwards compatible with both all my psclassics and psp games though.
The 3ds, I don't see the point. I don't want to play anything in 3d, and I'm not up for more mario. Pokemon is fun for a bit but I'm pretty sure I've missed a few of the iterations, so I might as well just play those on my ds.
The 3ds, I don't see the point. I don't want to play anything in 3d, and I'm not up for more mario. Pokemon is fun for a bit but I'm pretty sure I've missed a few of the iterations, so I might as well just play those on my ds.
I have to say I don't really agree with this. I'll admit, buttons are always more responsive and enjoyable at times, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to default to the controller over the touchscreen just because of that. Technology changes, and we along with it. You can get adapters to use controllers with a tablet/smartphone in place of the touchscreen, and Android/iOS offer a lot more actual games right now that are honestly really fun and addicting. Some even look amazing. For example:Jailbird408 said:
Anomaly: Warzone Earth
Plight of the Zombie
Dead Trigger
Sonic 4 (done in episodes)
Angry Birds
It also offers legal emulators for alot of our older games so that if you still own your older NES/SNES/Gameboy/GBA/Playstion/Sega/etc., you can convert them to ROMs and have them forever on your Android/iOS device. This is not something you can do with the current handhelds without illegally modding your hardware.
That, and Nintendo isn't doing itself any favors by charging $5+ for games that are far too old, when I can pay $1 for games that are large improvements on the Play Store/App Store.
That being said, Nintendo did go the extra mile and give us mobile 3D, however, that technology will eventually be available for all mobile devices in the future. We already have 3D TVs and monitors. It's only a matter of time before consoles are replaced by mass media devices in my opinion.
Why buy a specific gaming device, when you could pay the same for a mass media one that does the same thing better, and also does everything else better. Key example being the resolution on the 3DS for movies or streaming services like Netflix being really poor compared to the 720p resolution that the HTC I paid 20$ for puts out. I already needed a new phone and I was gonna have it anyway.
TL;DR- Mobile gaming devices are being made obsolete by Android/iOS devices.
On a different note:
Am I the only one that would LOVE to see Steam come to the mobile market?
not really, i have games on my android, non are anywhere near as as good as what i have for my DS.StBishop said:
Yeah...Terminate421 said:No.
Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?
Also this in about 2 weeks:
As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
The two examples above don't really help the case too much. I mean, the concept of that whole game (i.e. Two Pokemon combining to form one new Pokemon) has already been done. Don't believe me? Check this out:
Kyurem's tail is even in the same shape as the Shellder.
and
Even though this is from the manga, the same statue is found in the actual game (in Eterna City to be exact).
So yeah, just saying. Nothing new here at all.
OT: How can people say that handheld gaming is dead when they are still putting out great titles like this?
I'll give you the last three but the ones I've underlined are examples of what I called "bite sized PS3 games". The exact plot and play mechanics may have been tweaked a little bit but they look like the same kind of thing that you can play/have already played on the PS3. I do concede though that it may not be 95% of PSV games being bite-sized PS3 games...maybe it's closer to 80%artanis_neravar said:
This is not a point in handheld gamings favour. Releasing the same game twice is why handheld gaming appears to be in decline. But it won't die.Terminate421 said:No.
Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?
Also this in about 2 weeks:
As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
IT JUST.
WON'T.
DIE.
And this is the part where I say it is a point in its favor.SpectacularWebHead said:This is not a point in handheld gamings favour. Releasing the same game twice is why handheld gaming appears to be in decline. But it won't die.Terminate421 said:No.
Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?
Also this in about 2 weeks:
As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
IT JUST.
WON'T.
DIE.
You see the titles that I presented? They're practically system sellers. Handheld gaming still works, despite what anyone says, all it takes is a little ingenuity and knowledge about what you can do that the iPhone cannot do.
We all know you cannot put out an entire campaign/multiplayer title with the amount of replay value a pokemon game can. Other titles such as Starfox 64 3DS and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 3DS are spot on attempts to make my 3DS worth the 180$ I paid for it. So far, its totally been worth it.