Dirty multiplayer tactics

[sma_warrior]

People who play as Oddjob.... or that granny in the shiny gold suit..... and throw in whoever thought rigging the speeds in Mariokart 64 was a good idea!

 

[orreso]

Juggernaut-matyrdom noobs, unless with a shotgun, ofcourse that ticks me off a bit still since F*cking immposible to kill (or at least with me cuz I can never get off more than a couple shots before dying) and type-killers, (for those who don't have voice-chat)

 

[OneHP]

I've found recently that carrying a smoke is preferable to a stun or flash on COD4, can completely ruin a full sniper team if a couple of you have them.

 

[axle 19]

non sniper camping, spawn camping in TF2, grenade spamming, and infinite sentry sapping in TF2

 

[AboveUp]

Camping make my blood boil.

I just don't see the point of sitting in a single play just waiting for one person to walk by killing them and then thinking to yourself, "I fought hard for that".

Personally once i have been killed by a camper, I remember where they are and once I respawn I find the best way of killing them and I continue in that fashion until they move or quit the game like a cry-baby.

you obliviously have no idea how to play a sniper then or what a sniper has to do, their job is to camp, you can't fire your sniper rifle very well if you are moving. ever hear of what snipers refer to a god spot?

the issue with ppl complaining about campers is they are just whining because they are getting their asses kicked. i've honestly got no issue with camping, cept for spawn camping that's the only unfair thing because there's not much you can do

I'd have to answer this post with a clear "NO".
Campers, sniper or no sniper, are people that lack the skill to move across the map.
In CoD4, I've constructed a route on every map that bring me from camping point to camping point, without getting in everyone's sight too much. It's probably something you learn naturally when you play free-for-all because everyone camps at that game. The thing is, they suck. They call me a cheater for being able to kill them constantly, because I'm breaking their precious sniping game by coming up close and pointing a shotgun at them. Even the ones that see me in time and have a chance to shoot first usually have no chance.

Same with almost every other game out there, snipers tend to stick to the same place because they're too afraid to move around. Even though they could, god forbid, move across the map and use other guns.

 

[danielabens]

I'm going to go ahead and thank you for not being a jackass. I'm a nintendo guy, and if I had a quarter for evertime I heard someone bitching about c-sticking you'd be my ***** and would have spent the morning wiping my ass. People are asses and if it means they can win they'll do any move. There are cheap moves you can use to win, like or not you've used them at one point or another. (some less than others, that's what sets us apart from the aforementioned asses) These moves are easy and do not make you a good gamer, but if you press buttons to do it I think it's allowed. The fun part is finding ways to beat the people using "Dirty Tactics." It will never stop, but if you really hate it make a list of rules or find some friends who aren't total dicks.

 

[-Seraph-]

Camping and nade spamming are my top 2 piss offs. Camping though falls into 2 categories.

see there's good camping and bad camping.

Good camping is things such as a sniper hidden in a well off spot to defend a certain point in a map or in a place where he can see most of the combat area. Another form of good camping is a group of people on a team camping an important spot on that map such as the sniper does, but instead stay closer to the spot and overwhelm enemies with numbers.

BAD camping refers to spawn killing fucktards, the worst type of camping all, camping and not helping your team at all (ie: last man on your team in CS and not doing objective and camping). Halo 1's portal camping is by far the WORST type of camping EVER, especially coupled with nade spammers its a total freaking nightmare. well you get the point already.

Nade spamming is terrible on halo as well as it involves NO SKILL AT ALL when unlimited nades is on. "hey i can spam nades, fuck my gun I'll just spam them with nades because i cant shoot for shit." that about sums up nade spamming.

Bunny hoppers and dancers can be annoying too, its just frustrating and doesn't feel like it belongs in the game, UT is notorious for that crazy stuff, but...it does help and somewhat important in a game like that.

those big 3 are some of the cheapest and annoying things that just ruin games for me. The whole camping issue is entirely circumstantial and depends on the game but there are times where you just cant stand it no matter what.

 

[Abako]

Camping make my blood boil.

I just don't see the point of sitting in a single play just waiting for one person to walk by killing them and then thinking to yourself, "I fought hard for that".

Personally once i have been killed by a camper, I remember where they are and once I respawn I find the best way of killing them and I continue in that fashion until they move or quit the game like a cry-baby.

you obliviously have no idea how to play a sniper then or what a sniper has to do, their job is to camp, you can't fire your sniper rifle very well if you are moving. ever hear of what snipers refer to a god spot?

the issue with ppl complaining about campers is they are just whining because they are getting their asses kicked. i've honestly got no issue with camping, cept for spawn camping that's the only unfair thing because there's not much you can do

I'd have to answer this post with a clear "NO".
Campers, sniper or no sniper, are people that lack the skill to move across the map.
In CoD4, I've constructed a route on every map that bring me from camping point to camping point, without getting in everyone's sight too much. It's probably something you learn naturally when you play free-for-all because everyone camps at that game. The thing is, they suck. They call me a cheater for being able to kill them constantly, because I'm breaking their precious sniping game by coming up close and pointing a shotgun at them. Even the ones that see me in time and have a chance to shoot first usually have no chance.

Same with almost every other game out there, snipers tend to stick to the same place because they're too afraid to move around. Even though they could, god forbid, move across the map and use other guns.

Sir I thank you for backing up every view of CoD4 I have. Teach those damn snipers how much the suck.

 

[Reload92]

People in MGO who go into cardboard boxes real quick so that no-one can hit them accurately which at that point they pop out and kill you with one shot, in the head.

 

[apmpnmdslkbk]

The hell is an uber charge.

But back to the topic I hate it when ur against a person who just sprays bullets and hopes like hell that he hits something. I dont know why it just bugs me seeing such a lack of skill thrown in a shooting game and it bugs my even more when they actually kill someone then gloat about it.

 

[plastic_window]

The hell is an uber charge.

It's in Team Fortress 2 when a medic has healed a certain number of Hit Points (or sometimes just used the medigun enough), they can make a team member invulnerable for a short period of time. It's pretty much vital to success in many maps.

 

[fat american]

I can understand snipers camping, that's part of being a sniper. Find a good position, kill, then move on. However, if you don't have a sniper rifle, there really is no need to camp. One good thing about enemies persistently camping is finding them after you respawn and KILLING THEM BACK!

As for actual cheaters, I think that some people can only have fun when they're robbing other people of it.

I know a couple people on this forum like that. I have to agree though, if you're a sniper the only really good way to get a couple kills is to camp. Games like Halo where sniping is a skill don't bother me. It's games like GoW when I get pissed because it's really easy to snipe people unless they're moving around a lot.

People who only use the sword and camp in Halo really piss me off because there's almost nothing you can do unless you have a shotgun and master reflexes.

Even though it's only happened to me once, people who mod or hack really piss me off. They don't have enough skill to win fair and square so they cheat and now no ones having fun except them.

 

[Dr_Baron_von_Evilsatan]

I have a few things specific to COD4

1. 'nade spamming

2. spawn camping

3. Spawn bombing (Instant air strike on your spawn in S&D)

4. jumping/diving/dancing

5. blatant overuse of Juggernaut and Martyrdom

6. P90 + triple grenades + stopping power/double tap + martyrdom

7. Grenade Launcher when it's used instead of bullets.

I'm actually fine with sniper camping because there's almost always a way around it(at the very lease an LMG with Deep Impact does wonders)

 

[Kraj]

Cheating is my least favorite multilayer tactic. Otherwise if its in the game, and the developers don't remove it with patches or balance it, its fair game.
People have fun in different ways, none of these ways are "wrong" in a video game, they can simply go against the "common social expectation"

an extreme and stupid way of saying it would be using this example. "murder isn't wrong... its just horribly antisocial"
lol. camping, noob-tubing, stairwell-sitting, nade spamming, bunny-hopping, and my oh-so-favorite rocket jumping, if their left in the game, their in the game, and they are :fair: game.

 

[derpa]

So much QQ about camping.

 

[DaMunky89]

Huh. We're getting alot of FPS-specific bitching in here, when there's so much else to be pissed about.

Forget spamming and camping, why is nobody annoyed about wavedashing and snaking? I think there's just more 360 gamers than old Nintendo junkies here. In general, I can't stand powergamers. Anybody who concentrates on the metagame so much that it feels like you're playing an entirely different game. -And if you're not, they'll kill you instantly. It ruins the fun for everybody.

Do people here play Mario Kart DS online? If you don't snake, you don't win, period. The game you're playing is no longer Mario Kart, it's snaking. Mario Kart should be about the characters, the items, the tracks.. when really it's just about picking a character and kart that have the right stats to spam leftrightleftrightleftright really really fast. Honestly, there are better ways to get carpal tunnel syndrome.

Ever try playing Smash Melee against one of these people? The one tournament level guy I fought in the space of 10 seconds was able to pick Shiek, turn off all items, and pick Final Destination before I could say "hey you jerk, no items is for wimps who can't dodge a beam sword". He then proceeded to wave dash the crap out of me. SLIDESLIDESLIDEC-STICKDOWNSPIKE. I don't want to play my games with other people if said people are going to suck all the fun out of it and then give me a pounding migraine with the way they metagame. Seriously, you can hear the shoulder buttons screaming in pain.

The Powergamer: Anyone who cares more about winning than having fun, and also knows how to break games to do it. IMO; the natural evolution of a button masher. I can beat hackers with a little luck, but it's these people I really hate. Who's with me?

 

[Dr_Baron_von_Evilsatan]

Cheating is my least favorite multilayer tactic. Otherwise if its in the game, and the developers don't remove it with patches or balance it, its fair game.
People have fun in different ways, none of these ways are "wrong" in a video game, they can simply go against the "common social expectation"

an extreme and stupid way of saying it would be using this example. "murder isn't wrong... its just horribly antisocial"
lol. camping, noob-tubing, stairwell-sitting, nade spamming, bunny-hopping, and my oh-so-favorite rocket jumping, if their left in the game, their in the game, and they are :fair: game.

Yes, but that doesn't mean it's not dirty. We're voicing what people do that causes us to lose fun or interest in the game. It's what we feel goes against our 'honor as gamers'. Some of us hold ourselves to a higher standard and believe that a fair(and fun)-for-all game is more important than winning.

 

[The Wooster]

non sniper camping, spawn camping in TF2, grenade spamming, and infinite sentry sapping in TF2

Spawn camping isn't dirty. It's proactive defence. A spy can earn you a good few extra seconds to capture a point. A heavy and a medic can hold a team back until they start to communicate. Unless the team gets a level 3 sentry set up outside the spawn you can never spawn camp long against a communicating team.

EDIT: People who play mario kart wii with the controller are almost as bad as people who play dance dance revolution with a control pad.

Controllers are the new snaking.

 

[derpa]

Huh. We're getting alot of FPS-specific bitching in here, when there's so much else to be pissed about.

Forget spamming and camping, why is nobody annoyed about wavedashing and snaking? I think there's just more 360 gamers than old Nintendo junkies here. In general, I can't stand powergamers. Anybody who concentrates on the metagame so much that it feels like you're playing an entirely different game. -And if you're not, they'll kill you instantly. It ruins the fun for everybody.

Do people here play Mario Kart DS online? If you don't snake, you don't win, period. The game you're playing is no longer Mario Kart, it's snaking. Mario Kart should be about the characters, the items, the tracks.. when really it's just about picking a character and kart that have the right stats to spam leftrightleftrightleftright really really fast. Honestly, there are better ways to get carpal tunnel syndrome.

Ever try playing Smash Melee against one of these people? The one tournament level guy I fought in the space of 10 seconds was able to pick Shiek, turn off all items, and pick Final Destination before I could say "hey you jerk, no items is for wimps who can't dodge a beam sword". He then proceeded to wave dash the crap out of me. SLIDESLIDESLIDEC-STICKDOWNSPIKE. I don't want to play my games with other people if said people are going to suck all the fun out of it and then give me a pounding migraine with the way they metagame. Seriously, you can hear the shoulder buttons screaming in pain.

The Powergamer: Anyone who cares more about winning than having fun, and also knows how to break games to do it. IMO; the natural evolution of a button masher. I can beat hackers with a little luck, but it's these people I really hate. Who's with me?

So just cause they enjoy/have fun playing the game a different way then you means your in the right and they are in the wrong?

 

[AboveUp]

Huh. We're getting alot of FPS-specific bitching in here, when there's so much else to be pissed about.

Forget spamming and camping, why is nobody annoyed about wavedashing and snaking? I think there's just more 360 gamers than old Nintendo junkies here. In general, I can't stand powergamers. Anybody who concentrates on the metagame so much that it feels like you're playing an entirely different game. -And if you're not, they'll kill you instantly. It ruins the fun for everybody.

Do people here play Mario Kart DS online? If you don't snake, you don't win, period. The game you're playing is no longer Mario Kart, it's snaking. Mario Kart should be about the characters, the items, the tracks.. when really it's just about picking a character and kart that have the right stats to spam leftrightleftrightleftright really really fast. Honestly, there are better ways to get carpal tunnel syndrome.

Ever try playing Smash Melee against one of these people? The one tournament level guy I fought in the space of 10 seconds was able to pick Shiek, turn off all items, and pick Final Destination before I could say "hey you jerk, no items is for wimps who can't dodge a beam sword". He then proceeded to wave dash the crap out of me. SLIDESLIDESLIDEC-STICKDOWNSPIKE. I don't want to play my games with other people if said people are going to suck all the fun out of it and then give me a pounding migraine with the way they metagame. Seriously, you can hear the shoulder buttons screaming in pain.

The Powergamer: Anyone who cares more about winning than having fun, and also knows how to break games to do it. IMO; the natural evolution of a button masher. I can beat hackers with a little luck, but it's these people I really hate. Who's with me?

Tournyfags in SSB:M aren't that hard to beat at all. They think they're so great at mindgames when in reality they're predictable: they always attack the same way, always use the same tactics, always use the same characters.