Dirty multiplayer tactics

[zirnitra]

I think mine would just have to be team killers. next it would be annoying people on voice chat. then people who complain about you killing them with a grenade or 'noob-tube' when they were incorporated into a game for a reason.

I can't stand to see people move side-to-side and jump around like a lunatic. More than anything to me, that breaks any immersion that was left after grenade-spamming, aimbots, wallhacks, and "your momma" jokes. Especially if they can dance about like that, then put a bullet (or laser, plasma ball, etc.) smack in your face. Are people incapable of using cover or tactics in a gunfight anymore?

if you watch any video of an amazing online FPS player you will see they are constantly running from side to side and jumping because it's what stops them being hit by bullets. there is no sense in standing still and dying for the sake of staying realistic when the game developers incorporate the jump buttons and go left while looking forward so they evidently want you to use them.

you then complained about people who can dance around and still kill you with out using tactics? so really good gamers upset you? I don't really care too much about tactics apart from when the situation demands it. using team tactics to win a deathmatch for instance isen't really that fun. I'd rather go loan wolf, storm out guns blazing get some kills, die repeat.

EDIT completely agree with you on aimbots, wall hacks and yo mamma jokes though

 

[Woe Is You]

-> Y,Y,Y with Rapheal in SC2 (Admit it we all do it)

To that I respond with a GI and 66B, 66A+B, 8B+K. My Cassandra tears through mashers like hot butter.

Metagamers and sliders in SSBM are no problem for me. See, I don't metagame. Yes, I pay attention to who they pick. I know every characters strengths and weaknesses, and how to exploit them.

This. Wavedashing doesn't make you superior if you suck at everything else. You might move a bit faster, but that's about it.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

I'd have to answer this post with a clear "NO".
Campers, sniper or no sniper, are people that lack the skill to move across the map.
In CoD4, I've constructed a route on every map that bring me from camping point to camping point, without getting in everyone's sight too much. It's probably something you learn naturally when you play free-for-all because everyone camps at that game. The thing is, they suck. They call me a cheater for being able to kill them constantly, because I'm breaking their precious sniping game by coming up close and pointing a shotgun at them. Even the ones that see me in time and have a chance to shoot first usually have no chance.

Same with almost every other game out there, snipers tend to stick to the same place because they're too afraid to move around. Even though they could, god forbid, move across the map and use other guns.

Sir I thank you for backing up every view of CoD4 I have. Teach those damn snipers how much the suck.

ok funny part is both of you proved how correct my post was

thing is try being a sniper and moving around a lot, you CAN'T, the whole point of a sniper is to find one spot you don't have to move from and you can have a relatively unobstructed view of the battle

so moving around is not very good for a steady shot and thinking that they should move, just shows how much you don't know about playing different classes and the tactics used to play them. funnily enough those snipers that sit in one spot and "have issues moving around the map" probly know that map as good if not better than you do

 

[Koslov227]

I'm all for playing fair. I always hit the auto-assign in FPS. I wont actively search for glitches to use in any game. I'm all for helping new people by offering pointers and the people I play with will do the same. I do not shun using weapons or perks in moderation and firmly believe in "if the developers put it there... its fair game."

Hackors just suck and should be instantly banned. If you use a third party program to get a leg up on the competition, then you should be slaped around with a large phallic object. Also, people who use glitches activly in any form need to re-examine how much of a looser they are to have to cheat at a game.

BUT when it comes to those elitist Pr*cks:

I will use a 203 launcher + overkill (with the second tube) and marty, just to piss them off. I will zerg rush (or play the economy by flooding a specific resource in Sins of a solar empire)over and over again just to hear my opponent get even more pissed off after it happened the first time, and when they start to quote Sun Tzu, I do it again. I will spawn in a point and just stay there in COD4 when I hear people complain that they are loosing because people are camping. Why do I act like them you ask... because they are pr*cks, and I have no tolerance for them... so I respond by delivering a hearty shovel full of their own sh!t. Oh and you're momma jokes and refernces to their sexuality are always fun, because 9 times out of 10, they can dish it out but they can't take it.

 

[Unknower]

I'd have to answer this post with a clear "NO".
Campers, sniper or no sniper, are people that lack the skill to move across the map.
In CoD4, I've constructed a route on every map that bring me from camping point to camping point, without getting in everyone's sight too much. It's probably something you learn naturally when you play free-for-all because everyone camps at that game. The thing is, they suck. They call me a cheater for being able to kill them constantly, because I'm breaking their precious sniping game by coming up close and pointing a shotgun at them. Even the ones that see me in time and have a chance to shoot first usually have no chance.

Same with almost every other game out there, snipers tend to stick to the same place because they're too afraid to move around. Even though they could, god forbid, move across the map and use other guns.

Sir I thank you for backing up every view of CoD4 I have. Teach those damn snipers how much the suck.

ok funny part is both of you proved how correct my post was

thing is try being a sniper and moving around a lot, you CAN'T, the whole point of a sniper is to find one spot you don't have to move from and you can have a relatively unobstructed view of the battle

so moving around is not very good for a steady shot and thinking that they should move, just shows how much you don't know about playing different classes and the tactics used to play them. funnily enough those snipers that sit in one spot and "have issues moving around the map" probly know that map as good if not better than you do

Maybe in games like Counter-Strike, where the maps are small, but surely not in games like Battlefield, Battlefront and Crysis with big maps?

At least in Crysis I think changing your spot is a good tactic. I noticed time and time again that snipers who don't change their spot get killed when the people who they just shot or missed respawn or get a sniper rifle.

 

[shufflemonkey16]

I don't really mind people doing many of these things. If it gives them/their team an upper hand in the game, then bravo for them doing something smart. I'll just have to outsmart them to overcome their strategy.

Things that do suck though are glitching into walls and the like. Or just cheating by using modded consoles or things.

 

[countrysteaksauce]

Some of the perks on cod4-
juggernaut- even though hardcore servers invalidate this one, I really love putting a whole clip into someone before they die. Seriously, lets let one player have twice as much health as another.
martyrdom- just annoying, if you dont have the little skill necessary to lob a nade and have to rely on a posthumous free kill, then please uninstall.
last stand- more annoying than martyrdom, why should you get a second chance at life when I just spent all that time shooting you.
3x frag grenades- we needed more spam!

 

[Shadowtek]

Cheaters. any which way you do it. if someone kicks my ass and they are flat out better than me, fine, i can handle that. Cheaters however, they hate me as well as i hate them. i am VERY good at a few games, to the point cheaters point me out (then leave the map very quickly).

Personally for cheaters, i have an ideas about what too do to cheaters. but, i'm not looking to get banned from here for any of my ideas.

 

[the jellyman]

I hate the people who ue crossbows on the old half-life/opfor. They find some camping pot that no-one else can get to because of all the mines that they've laid, and with a grille window so no-one else can shoot them or indeed see them, and after that anyone out in the open is dead meat as silenced, one hit kill, high velocity bolts nail them to a wall
Why, I ask, can't you try the shotgun or the smg or the hivehand? At least then we could see you.
EDIT: sniper rifles in battlefield 1942 and battlefield vietnam are all useless
ANOTHER EDIT: (quote)
shatnershaman:
-> Y,Y,Y with Rapheal in SC2 (Admit it we all do it)

To that I respond with a GI and 66B, 66A+B, 8B+K. My Cassandra tears through mashers like hot butte
( unquote)
To which I reply: what?
YET ANOTHER EDIT: I thought the pyro class in tfc and tf2 is designed to sit and wait for enemies and then burn them. and the spy class, coe to that

 

[TheDukester]

When people have been talking about CoD4, it seems they are only thinking about deathmatch, team or free for all, which is probably one of my least favorite modes now.

If you're playing search and destroy or tactical versions of [insert your favorite gametype here] and you run into the open, you're just asking to be shot. With (team) deathmatch, I'd agree with what everyone is saying--camping just slows the action down and makes it annoying for everyone else. But in tactical, you have to be sneakier. That's the whole point of the dead silence perk!

 

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

I just recently played warhawk, and seems like some people found some ways to fly a warhawk UNDER THE FUCKING MAP!

Also, TF2, it's hard to explain without having a long drawn out post so I'll put it like this:

Choose spy on a TC map - be offense.

Disguise/cloak

Head to second capture point

Wait for team to capture the first point

Once they do, you are instantly at the second point and you capture it almost instantly - and you won the game without having to fire a single shot.

 

[RathTheGreat]

Halo 3. I love the entire series to death. I love it so much that I bought a special edition Halo 3 Xbox 360. And the legendary edition. I love the campaign. But I honestly despise Halo 3 multiplayer. I don't know when everything in multiplayer went downhill and turned from competitive fun where everybody is all chummy with everybody and in the end nobody holds grudges because everyone had a great time, into a competition to see who can be the biggest asshole. It seems people in Halo 3 will do anything they can to win a match just so they can feel good about themselves because they beat a private and his 2 guests who have never played before and just wanted to experience the multiplayer.

There are quite a few things I get pissed about when it comes to Halo 3 and a few of them are just Bungie's fault while others are things that assholes do just to get one kill. I'd say the thing I hate the most would be the needler. Ever since Bungie decided to take away the duel weilding ability and boost the power to compensate this weapon has been the bane of my online existence. You could have an oversheild on when you are attacked by somebody with a needler and it isn't going to do you a damn bit of good. They shoot three needles into you and you light up like the fourth of July sending your corpse flying ragdoll style through the air. And like a plasma grenade except far less legitimate there is nothing you can do when you get stuck with the needles.

One thing that everyone has been griping about is the melee system and it is unfair but we have to live with it because there isn't anything anyone can do. Mostly my beef with this is the double beat downs and the instant death. If nobody has encountered instant death I will explain. You walk up to someone with full shield when you have little or no shield and press melee. Your attack will not have registered and instead without the opponent having pressed the melee button you will be beaten down. You can tell they didn't press beat down because you can clearly see that there was no melee animation. This pisses me off to no end.

I also hate maulers, they're possibly the cheapest weapons in the game. If you get to of them and get yourself into a nice little camping spot you can dominate because those guns each equal the force of 1 shotgun. So using both of them equals 2 shotguns. Most people aren't alive after one full shotgun blast. Speaking of shotguns there is a cheap trick that most people do and defend as legitimate. I'm sure every Halo 3 player can be accused of trying it at least once, kind of like pot. I myself am not innocent, though I admit I did it as a bit of revenge and I must say the jackasses who did it certainly didn't take kindly to a taste of their own medicine.

Lastly, there are the laggers. One of the easiest ways to cheat at Halo 3 and the most effective one is to lag yourself on purpose. And it's easy to get away with too because to Bungie it's just normal lag that they don't give a shit about. And when you do this you appear to be skipping around to other players making it almost impossible for them to shot you and very easy for you to kill them. I see it practically every time I play Halo 3 multiplayer and it's unlikely to stop. So I have officially called it quits on Halo 3 multiplayer. It's enough to have all the assholes and ten year olds and plain old idiots but then they all pull cheap crap just for one kill? No, I won't accept that. Halo 3 multiplayer should be played in custom games with friends or on forge just messing around and still only with people you know and like.

And my disc is screwed up for some reason so it won't load half of the campaign levels and for some reason I haven't gotten like 3 different pieces of armor even though I've met the requirements for all of them. One of them being the scout shoulders which are obtained when you get the We're In For Some Chop achievement. I got that achievement a week ago and still no damn Scout shouldrs. Enough of my complaining though, somebody elses turn.

 

[RedxDecember]

I hate it when i'm sneaking up on someone in call of duty and then some noob comes running up behind me and shoots the whole place while not even KILLING that person, then the person who you now realize has a trench gun blasts the noob, looks at you and fires right in the face!

 

[Russel1]

I dont think camping is an issue on COD4. ive got about 3 days play time, prestige twice. and not once have I got frustrated with someone camping, i mean sure you always get the 1 guy who camps and if hes lucky he can kill you twice, but there are always ways to kill them, thats why they give us frags, you can shoot through walls, i dont get frustrated. the game is well balanced, even with snipers most guns in the game can take them out if u spam in their direction ("LMG+Reddot sight > Sniper" =P) or with any assault. IMO its games like Rainbow6 where camping is an issue. the tactical shooters that arent as fast paced. i havnt played TF2 so i wudnt know bout that

 

[plastic_window]

-> Y,Y,Y with Rapheal in SC2 (Admit it we all do it)

I wasn't aware there was anything else to playing Raph besides that combo .

And Nazrel, the reason why I don't think it's fun is because I tried it once and found it so boring that I started to eat the keys off my keyboard. But, as you say, some people like fishing, so I guess there are people who get a kick out of it. It's just that, like fishing, you can wait all day for the fish and then let it get away. Then that really does make all the waiting pointless.

 

[GothmogII]

Straight up cheating, no, of course. Same with real exploits and glitches.

Camping however...isn't that how a sniper/rifleman etc. works? i.e. Finds an acceptable spot to bunker down that provides a good view of the field. Even if a sniper doesn't move from that one spot he's found, is that not on the other side to find him and kill him? I'd understand of course if said person had found a spot that was completely unaccessible to anyone else, maybe through a glitch, but otherwise, what's the problem? Note though, I think defending and camping are the same thing, in that, yes, you are trying to have the best possible advantage against your opponent without resorting to cheating.

I'm kind of getting this vibe, that, you shouldn't do your best, and even that you should deliberately make mistakes in order to not make things un-fun for other players. Seems, silly I guess, these are still competitive games even when playing for fun.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

I just recently played warhawk, and seems like some people found some ways to fly a warhawk UNDER THE FUCKING MAP!

Also, TF2, it's hard to explain without having a long drawn out post so I'll put it like this:

Choose spy on a TC map - be offense.

Disguise/cloak

Head to second capture point

Wait for team to capture the first point

Once they do, you are instantly at the second point and you capture it almost instantly - and you won the game without having to fire a single shot.

I really hate scouts and spies who do this, it just seems utterly pointless. I mean, winning is fun and all, but what's the point if you use a cheap and pointless tactic that ends the game almost immediately?

 

[GothmogII]

I just recently played warhawk, and seems like some people found some ways to fly a warhawk UNDER THE FUCKING MAP!

Also, TF2, it's hard to explain without having a long drawn out post so I'll put it like this:

Choose spy on a TC map - be offense.

Disguise/cloak

Head to second capture point

Wait for team to capture the first point

Once they do, you are instantly at the second point and you capture it almost instantly - and you won the game without having to fire a single shot.

I really hate scouts and spies who do this, it just seems utterly pointless. I mean, winning is fun and all, but what's the point if you use a cheap and pointless tactic that ends the game almost immediately?

Shrug, that just shows that the other team wasn't paying attention, but, most times I've seen that happening all that results is a WTF/lol and it's on to the next map, i.e. not taken seriously...

 

[Mr. Kite]

I say let the Martyrs have their perk. It's their loss of a perk slot. I don't killed by it as much as I used to. You just have to be prudent, and even then, sometimes you still get caught by it. But by minimizing it with expecation, is it really something worth complaining about?

 

[Kronos 9000]

I love Jiharding everything Great fun. But i'm sure it'll get on a lot of your wicks.

However i seriously hate large group campers who keep you pinned down in a place and you can't get out. Maybe a good tactic? But i hate it!