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Learned some interesting trivia about Licence to Kill. Apparently, it was Desmond Llewelyn's favorite Bond movie. Granted, a lot of that was because he was given more to do than "the gadgets guy".

ETA: And you know how this reminded me and Absent of a Miami Vice episode? Well, the costume designer wanted to dress Bond in pastel colors, but Dalton fought for, and eventually won, a more casual look.
 
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Learned some interesting trivia about Licence to Kill. Apparently, it was Desmond Llewelyn's favorite Bond movie. Granted, a lot of that was because he was given more to do than "the gadgets guy".

ETA: And you know how this reminded me and Absent of a Miami Vice episode? Well, the costume designer wanted to dress Bond in pastel colors, but Dalton fought for, and eventually won, a more casual look.
Licence to Kill is one of my favourite Bond movies and I think Dalton was a Bond ahead of his time. Also, Carey Lowell (Pam) still sticks out as a pretty good attempt at balancing her being a competent asskicker as well as having emotional vulnerability. Its not perfect, but kudos for effort. And that opening stunt where they catch Sanchez and parachute to Felix's wedding will never not be fuckin' cool.

Also Robert Davi has a story he tells that when he was on holiday in South America, he got picked up by some hired goons and taken to the residence of a drug dealer (he revealed in 2016 it was none other than Escobar himself) and was summarily complimented for his excellent portrayal of a drug dealer. Davi says he basically survived the whole thing by just smiling and nodding.
 
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Accident Man Hitman's Holiday on Hulu

Imagine Peacemaker played by Jet Li having one long escort scene with assassin's target Mr. Bean. Throw in some Batman Arkham Origins to boot.

Small budget no doubt, big creativity. Few things to quibble about but I laughed a lot and enjoyed it as something different.

B+

 

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13 Assassins (2010)

This movie came up during a stream with Jesse Galina where the subject of director of Takashi Miike came up. I loved Ichi the Killer and Audition when I watched them- heck, I dunno, 20 years ago or whatever- so when Jesse shouted out this film about a bunch of samurai I was in. Samurai movies are cool.
This one hyper-fictionalizes the killing of a real nobleman who is portrayed as a Caligula-style psychopath. So you have your rag-tag group of warriors banding together to take him down.
The film is longer than I expected with essentially a three act structure: first the plot setup, then the gathering of the group and setting up the battle arena, and then a big long fight. It's all pretty great and brutal.
The only part that bothered me is that the last "assassin" they introduce is this loveable hunter wild man near comic relief who is pretty awesome but then he sort of rapes an entire town. A reminder of how messed up Japanese directors can be with women.
Other than that horrible scene- pretty great flick.
 
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Asteroid City

Another very Wes Anderson movie. You almost don't have to watch them anymore. Just look at the poster. What a cast! That man must be the friendliest guy on the planet or how do you swing Tom Hanks, Margot Robbie, Tilda Swinton, ScarJo, Bryan Cranston, Ed Norton, Adrien Brody, Willem Dafoe, Jeffrey Wright, Jason Schwartzman, Liev Schreiber, Matt Dillon, Jeff Goldblum, Steve Carell and I don't know how many more for 25 million total?

With every movie Wes strays away from the heart that made Rushmore/Tennenbaums and retreats even further into his doll house of meticulously framed shots, violent camera pans and fiercely deadpan acting. The process for Asteroid City is even more extraneous this time around because the whole thing is framed as a play within a play within some kind of Twilight Zone programming, with actors playing several parts while also stepping in and out of their timezones. The play outside the play gets weirdly meta at times and I'm not sure I got the gist of what they were going for at its most fourth-wall-breaking(ly) experimental.

Having said all that I had a lovely time watching this. It's a cozy movie. It's a nice theater movie. I liked all the characters and enjoyed a lot of turns and scenes separately, even if everything didn't quite gel together for me.
 
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Accident Man Hitman's Holiday on Hulu

Imagine Peacemaker played by Jet Li having one long escort scene with assassin's target Mr. Bean. Throw in some Batman Arkham Origins to boot.

Small budget no doubt, big creativity. Few things to quibble about but I laughed a lot and enjoyed it as something different.

B+

You ever see the first movie? Still the best of the two, but Hitman's Holiday is a great follow up. I can recommend you Scott Adkin's other movies: Ninja, Ninja II, Close Range, and Hard Target 2.
 
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You ever see the first movie? Still the best of the two, but Hitman's Holiday is a great follow up. I can recommend you Scott Adkin's other movies: Ninja, Ninja II, Close Range, and Hard Target 2.
I'll look for them! Thanks! Was there a Hard Target 1? I see one with Jean- Claude Van Damme but the character's name is different. And directed by John Woo!

Buddy wanted to see this particularly as Adkins is in Expendables 2 (He is a die hard Sly fan). I'll have to look further into his career.
 

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I'll look for them! Thanks! Was there a Hard Target 1? I see one with Jean- Claude Van Damme but the character's name is different. And directed by John Woo!
Yes. Along with Face/Off, these are Woo's American heroic bloodshed films.

Buddy wanted to see this particularly as Adkins is in Expendables 2 (He is a die hard Sly fan). I'll have to look further into his career.
Yep. Van Damme and Adkins both play villains. The latter is the right hand man to the former. Also, Adkins was a protege under Van Damme.
 
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Heart of Stone (2023)

This is a spy action caper Mission Impossible clone, and seems to have been one of those well-budgetted but weirdly underwhelming Netflix films. Instead of the MI team, there's some secret non-governmental peacekeeping intelligence network "Charter" who saves the world (like also "Citadel", from the TV show of the same name on Amazon), based around some mega-AI gizmo called "The Heart" and their star operative is Rachel Stone (get it?) played by Gal Gadot.

I just don't really understand what the point is of spending tens, maybe over a hundred million dollars on location shoots and action and then hiring a useless scriptwriter. Sure, the action is fine, let's get that out of the way. But Rachel is a bit too goody-two-shoes and all powerful, loads of stuff makes absolutely no sense or requires people to be unreasonably stupid, and the dialogue is poor. There are the stock quips and one-liners, and they all wilt and sag like a salad left out in the sun too long.

Where does Charter come from and who funds it? Where did the movie's antagonist get all the resources from for his anti-Charter operation? How has no-one noticed the massive airship that The Heart is stored in floating around? None of this shit makes any sense. This film doesn't make any sense. I don't feel I completely wasted the chunk of my life I spent watching it, but hopefully there won't be a sequel.
 

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but hopefully there won't be a sequel.
And if there ever is one, will you fall into despair?

I haven't seen the movie myself yet, but I am looking forward to it. I already knew it wasn't going to be anything special but just a nice 90-minute movie. It's got Gal Gadot starring, and I'm glad to see her pick up different projects now.
 

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Extraction 2 just left me hanging. Some great action for sure, but the actual extraction and extractees were fucking annoying. The subplot with the son was a huge drag.

There's a scene at the end where Hemsworth says he won't go anywhere without his team. Which made me laugh, because he has gotten his team killed multiple times over by now.

Honestly I don't remember much about the first movie, but I do remember liking it a lot more than this.
 

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Extraction 2 just left me hanging. Some great action for sure, but the actual extraction and extractees were fucking annoying. The subplot with the son was a huge drag.

There's a scene at the end where Hemsworth says he won't go anywhere without his team. Which made me laugh, because he has gotten his team killed multiple times over by now.

Honestly I don't remember much about the first movie, but I do remember liking it a lot more than this.
As much as I love the sequel, I hate the teenage son. He's nothing like the kid from the first movie. That kid actually listened, and was way more helpful than this other son of a crime boss. Fuck this character! I really don't know what the writers are thinking. Why do they think anything about him was a good idea? I like the daughter because she actually listed and behaved, and was at least a little helpful.
 
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Gran Turismo: Fun / Great

Based on the true story of Jann Mardenborough, an avid player of Playstation's Gran Turismo whose talents end up netting him an FIA license and a career as a driver in actual motorsports.

I had very low expectations going into this film, and for the first quarter of the movie, it pretty much met those with some very tired tropes, but once it hit its stride... it actually got really good. I was really surprised, but perhaps that's my being both a gamer and a fan of motorsports. Recommended if only to see a "gaming nerd" prove himself in the real world his fantasies emulate.
 
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It will certainly incline to me to question what I'm paying a Netflix subscription for. And honestly, Netflix is testing my patience in that regard.
Can't blame you if you decided to cancel. There's plenty of interests for me to watch, so I am good. Plus, I'm not paying for it any way. I use my brother's account. I do pay for Amazon Prime though.
 

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I just don't really understand what the point is of spending tens, maybe over a hundred million dollars on location shoots and action and then hiring a useless scriptwriter.
I'm a bit vague on that myself. Works so much better the other way around, but then I guess it's not reliably money making.
 

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Seven Samurai (1954), 9/10

The Akira Kurosawa classic about seven samurai being hired to protect a village from bandits. This holds up magnificently despite turning 70 next year. You could release this movie completely unaltered today by improving the sound and putting it in color, and it wouln't feel one bit dated. Yet at the same time it feels very much like a movie from a bygone age, but in a good way. What I perhaps like most about it is that it is a genuine undderdog story. It's about people either past their prime, or lost in their lives coming together for a good cause. At a mighty 210 minutes and a slow pace it's a big time investment, but not one second of it feels pointless or unnecessary. The characters are really engaging, the period details are perfect, the story is small scale yet feels huge, and the last hour is a masterclass in how to film an extended battle/siege sequence. The geography and progress of the battle is always crystal clear. All in all just a delight and a proper old school epic.

Tetsuo the Iron Man (1989), 8/10

In complete contrast to Seven Samurai (aside from these both being in black and white), this is a japanese body horror film that's frequently mentioned among the most disturbing films of all time. It's nominally about a man addicted to inserting pieces of metal into his body who gets run over with a car, which starts a downward spiral into madness. But that's like saying that Lord of the Rings is about hobbits going on a hike: it's there, but only a smart part of a larger whole. And that whole is the most batshit insane, intense audiovisual overload I've seen in a long time. This movie is remarkably short at only a paltry 67 minutes, but if it were any longer it would be unbearable to watch. It's full of frenetic editing and camerawork, disturbing imagery and horrific scenes. There's barely any spoken dialogue and the story is told only piecemeal, so it's very abstract and up to interpretation as well. You can pick up on themes of sexual repression, industrial anxiety, regret and more. Despite its reputation as a disturbing movie, it never feels like it's going for shock value or shoving it in your face: this movie is very purposeful in what it does and doesn't show.

Lords of Chaos (2018), 4/10

This is a dramatization of the infamous events in the norwegian black metal scene in the early 90s, which involved things like church burnings, murder, satanism and such fun stuff, culminating in one of the people involved, Varg Vikernes (aka Burzum), murdering the leader of another black metal band and going to jail. It's a pretty well known story in the metal music scene, but for people outside of it I don't really think this movie really does a good job establishing things. It feels like it's assuming that you already know at least some parts of the story. Well that, and the fact that this just isn't a good movie.

The biggest problem with it is it can't pick a lane or tone. At first it feels like it's going for a comedic bent, showing these people as just immature, privileged, pretentious edgelords. But then about 20 minutes in it hits us with probably the most gruesome and graphic suicide scene ever put to film, and it's played completely straight. It's genuinely one of the most shocking things I've ever seen in a movie: the guy slits his wrists, slices his throat, then writes a suicide note, and finishes it off with a shotgun in the mouth. And we see all of it, in gruesome explicit detail and bright closeups, including the shotgun part. I think that scene alone makes this movie in bad taste. But like I said, the movie just haphazardly stumbles through different tones, and it never feels like it's building any forward momentum. Things just sort of happen, but it doesn't feel like they really effect one another or build up to anything. I never felt sure if the movie wanted me to laught at these people, feel bad for them, hate them or relate to them, because it never commits to anything, and as a result a ton of it falls flat on its face. It presents the events very matter-of-factly, which just feels off.

So yeah, not a good one, skip it.

Barbie (2023), 8/10

The biggest movie of the year, this one sure went places. I already knew it was going to be different, but I had no idea just how different. Never could have I expected a Barbie movie to be this existential, political, meta and just plain weird. The story went places I never expected, and as a result I was glued to the screen. I'll bet you $10,000 that in 10-15 years the girls who are now seeing it at 7-12 years old are going to rediscover it and it will be lauded as a cornerstone of feminist cinema. Because I'm pretty sure most of this movie will sail straight over that age demographic's heads. It goes so hard into the politics of it with multiple firebrand monologues that I was constantly wondering how this ever got through both Mattel and Warner Bros. approval processes. It's also pretty damn raunchy for a PG film, though not in its content, but its subject matter. It's definitely pushing a lot of buttons on purpose, and that brazenness seems to have paid off. Ryan Gosling is a riot though, proving once again that his comedic talents go criminally underutilized.
 
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Gal Gadot just doesn’t seem like a particularly good actor? I mean sure I’ve only see her as Wonderwims
Seven Samurai (1954), 9/10

The Akira Kurosawa classic about seven samurai being hired to protect a village from bandits. This holds up magnificently despite turning 70 next year. You could release this movie completely unaltered today by improving the sound and putting it in color, and it wouln't feel one bit dated. Yet at the same time it feels very much like a movie from a bygone age, but in a good way. What I perhaps like most about it is that it is a genuine undderdog story. It's about people either past their prime, or lost in their lives coming together for a good cause. At a mighty 210 minutes and a slow pace it's a big time investment, but not one second of it feels pointless or unnecessary. The characters are really engaging, the period details are perfect, the story is small scale yet feels huge, and the last hour is a masterclass in how to film an extended battle/siege sequence. The geography and progress of the battle is always crystal clear. All in all just a delight and a proper old school epic.

Tetsuo the Iron Man (1989), 8/10

In complete contrast to Seven Samurai (aside from these both being in black and white), this is a japanese body horror film that's frequently mentioned among the most disturbing films of all time. It's nominally about a man addicted to inserting pieces of metal into his body who gets run over with a car, which starts a downward spiral into madness. But that's like saying that Lord of the Rings is about hobbits going on a hike: it's there, but only a smart part of a larger whole. And that whole is the most batshit insane, intense audiovisual overload I've seen in a long time. This movie is remarkably short at only a paltry 67 minutes, but if it were any longer it would be unbearable to watch. It's full of frenetic editing and camerawork, disturbing imagery and horrific scenes. There's barely any spoken dialogue and the story is told only piecemeal, so it's very abstract and up to interpretation as well. You can pick up on themes of sexual repression, industrial anxiety, regret and more. Despite its reputation as a disturbing movie, it never feels like it's going for shock value or shoving it in your face: this movie is very purposeful in what it does and doesn't show.

Lords of Chaos (2018), 4/10

This is a dramatization of the infamous events in the norwegian black metal scene in the early 90s, which involved things like church burnings, murder, satanism and such fun stuff, culminating in one of the people involved, Varg Vikernes (aka Burzum), murdering the leader of another black metal band and going to jail. It's a pretty well known story in the metal music scene, but for people outside of it I don't really think this movie really does a good job establishing things. It feels like it's assuming that you already know at least some parts of the story. Well that, and the fact that this just isn't a good movie.

The biggest problem with it is it can't pick a lane or tone. At first it feels like it's going for a comedic bent, showing these people as just immature, privileged, pretentious edgelords. But then about 20 minutes in it hits us with probably the most gruesome and graphic suicide scene ever put to film, and it's played completely straight. It's genuinely one of the most shocking things I've ever seen in a movie: the guy slits his wrists, slices his throat, then writes a suicide note, and finishes it off with a shotgun in the mouth. And we see all of it, in gruesome explicit detail and bright closeups, including the shotgun part. I think that scene alone makes this movie in bad taste. But like I said, the movie just haphazardly stumbles through different tones, and it never feels like it's building any forward momentum. Things just sort of happen, but it doesn't feel like they really effect one another or lead to anything. I never felt sure if the movie wanted me to laught at these people, feel bad for them, hate them or relate to them, because it never commits to anything, and as a result a ton of it falls flat on its face. It presents the events very matter-of-factly, which just feels off.

So yeah, not a good one, skip it.

Barbie (2023), 8/10

The biggest movie of the year, this one sure went places. I already knew it was going to be different, but I had no idea just how different. Never could have I expected a Barbie movie to be this existential, political, meta and just plain weird. The story went places I never expected, and as a result I was glued to the screen. I'll bet you $10,000 that in 10-15 years the girls who are now seeing it at 7-12 years old are going to rediscover it and it will be lauded as a cornerstone of feminist cinema. Because I'm pretty sure most of this movie will sail straight over that age demographic's heads. It goes so hard into the politics of it with multiple firebrand monologues that I was constantly wondering how this ever got through both Mattel and Warner Bros. approval processes. It's also pretty damn raunchy for a PG film, though not in its content, but its subject matter. It's definitely pushing a lot of buttons on purpose, and that brazenness seems to have paid off. Ryan Gosling is a riot though, proving once again that his comedic talents go criminally underutilized.
Man that’s quite a roster of films.
I know it’s not a bold statement to claim Seven Samurai as a favorite but it exceeded the lofty expectations I had for it, as it’s the basis for one of the great Westerns The Magnificent Seven. But it’s even better.
And dear lord I hope no one ever actually colorizes it.
 

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Man that’s quite a roster of films.
I know it’s not a bold statement to claim Seven Samurai as a favorite but it exceeded the lofty expectations I had for it, as it’s the basis for one of the great Westerns The Magnificent Seven. But it’s even better.
And dear lord I hope no one ever actually colorizes it.
What struck me about Seven Samurai is how modern its characters feel despite being one of the cornerstones of modern cinema, and establishing a lot of plot elements that would later become tired tropes. The best example of this is Kikuchiyo, the former peasant turned ronin who's basically the face of this film. One of the posters for the movie is of him clad in armor, seemingly screaming. You'd expect that frame to come from an intense battle sequence, but no, it's from a scene where he goes on a long rant about peasants and how they're always more cunning and devious than people think, and it's borderline a mental breakdown. That, and how his boisterous, larger than life persona is clearly a front for unprocessed trauma, makes this film feel like it's deconstructing a character trope which I'm not sure even was a character trope when the movie originally came out.