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I just watched Superman (the Gunn one), and it was pretty fun. It's not as good as any of the Guardians movies or Peacemaker - the true weirdo characters suit Gunn more I think - but with any James Gunn movie there's a baseline of quality. I'm not that into Superman as a character, but I can predict some fans not jiving as much with this movie, since it does lack the traditional gravitas typically associated with Superman. There's no 'Superman hovering above the clouds silhouetted by the sun' for example. Though there is a scene that's kinda close to that. This definitely feels like the most regular dude Superman we've ever gotten, even more than the one in My Adventures with Superman. David Corenswet does a good job as a leading man though.

Nicholas Hoult does a terrific Lex Luthor, he's just hateable as shit. He's entertaining, but not once to a level that you're ever on his side due to Supes being a boyscout and Lex being the charismatic cynic - He pulls too much heinous shit for that. In fact he's so fucking evil I was filled with the desire for some hefty, extremely violent comeupance for the guy, but Superman being Superman I knew he wasn't going to do that. Luckily the movie solves this well enough by the end. They have Krypto maul the shit out of him.

There's a pretty big political aspect to this movie that I don't know if Gunn and Warner were aiming for. This being Hollywood I assume the topicalness was a happy accident. A billionaire helping a heavily armed country to invade a neighboring province and kill all the people there so he can stake a claim to the land. Hmmm.

This movie does feel remarkable small though, it's not terribly good at creating a sense of world.

I also like how Supergirl got introduced. No tease or set-up, just 'oh yeah, they're here too'.
 

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> but with any James Gunn movie there's a baseline of quality
yeah I think this is why his involvement is one of the few things that would get me even remotely interested in another Superman movie. He unlike certain internet-nerd-triggering directors always remembers that he is making an entertainment product that other humans intend to consume, and that's something.
 
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28 Days Later

Decided to re-watch due to the recent release of its second sequel. My wife never saw it and I roped her into it and, man, what a fun flick, we both thoroughly enjoyed. She was impressed at how little time it wasted.
The early scene where the main woman slaughters her first partner as soon as he got infected was that intended shock that really set the stakes and it worked.
I haven't seen this movie in so long that I forgot it had Cilian Murphy and Brendan Gleason so that was a pleasant surprise.

Probably tonight we will watch 28 Weeks Later
 
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Superman (2025), 6/10

Ended up being kinda eh about this one.

Over the past decade comic book movies pretty much stopped doing origin stories unless they were about new characters, and instead jumped right into the heroes already doing their thing. It has worked mostly well (the Homecoming trilogy, The Batman), but unfortunately Gunn's Superman feels like it leans too far in the other direction: this feels like at least the second part of a film series where the audience is not only thrown into the deep end, but also bombarded with new characters. The assumption about audience knowledge simply goes too far, and as a result a lot of it feels rushed and shallow. So okay, everyone knows Superman's origin story, his romance with Lois Lane and that he works at the daily planet. Great. But do those people also know Jimmy Olsen and his relationship with Clark Kent? Do they know who Hawk Girl or the Green Lantern Corps are supposed to be and what they do? Those that don't are going to be left completely scrambling as the movie just expects you to pick up what it's putting down amidst its relentless pacing.

I'll backtrack a bit and get some positivity in: David Corenswet is great casting for Superman, and captures the hopeful, bright energy of the character far better than Cavill's moping. He just has a sort of universal charisma that would make you listen to him reading a phone book out loud. Nathan Fillion stole the show for me as Guy Gardner, hairdo criminal extraordinaire, shitty Green Lantern and general narcissistic jackass. It's a character that's incredibly easy to make completely insufferable, but he's in the movie the exact right amount, and he's written and performed exactly right that he's entertainingly irritating instead of offputtingly so. There's some fun action (tons of it in fact) and even creative camerawork to be found, and Superman's capabilities aren't reduced to just punching and punching harder.

But there's no getting around it: this movie feels rushed and overstuffed, and suffers an old pitfall I thought we'd moved past by now: undercutting drama with out of place humor. Very few scenes are allowed to breathe and settle the mood properly as the movie relentlessly jogs onto the next scene with fast dialogue and editing. There's far too many characters and elements to give proper screentime to in the 2 h 9 min runtime (which it feels a lot longer than, incidentally): Superman, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Guy Gardner, Lex Luthor, Hawk Girl, Mr. Terrific, the Fortress of Solitude, the Daily Planet, the list goes on. It feels cruel to say this, but instead of feeling like the beginning of a whole larger world, it ends up feeling almost like a fan film: assuming you already know everything and care so it can get to the cool stuff. Sadly emotional investment is earned, not given.

And then there's the humor. I wouldn't say this is quite as insufferable as Age of Ultron, and the humor that undercuts the film isn't the obnoxious "well that just happened" kind. It's more akin to a sitcom where the humor arises from characters getting hung up on trivial and inconsequential things in the midst of otherwise serious conversations. It's different, but it ends up deflating the dramatic stakes nonetheless. The other type is slapstick physical comedy which you saw in the trailer with Krypto bouncing on Superman, and yes, it's every bit as anti-dramatic as it felt in the trailer. I just don't know why Gunn did it so much here, when the Guardians movies had a pretty much perfect balance of drama, stakes and comedy without one ever stepping on another.

Still, it was good enough that it ended more on the side of positive, but this movie needed to be so much more. We're at a watershed moment with superhero movies, and if any movie should have heralded a new innovative age, it was this one. Instead it's just safe and familiar.
 
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Superman (2025), 6/10

Ended up being kinda eh about this one.

Over the past decade comic book movies pretty much stopped doing origin stories unless they were about new characters, and instead jumped right into the heroes already doing their thing. It has worked mostly well (the Homecoming trilogy, The Batman), but unfortunately Gunn's Superman feels like it leans too far in the other direction: this feels like at least the second part of a film series where the audience is not only thrown into the deep end, but also bombarded with new characters. The assumption about audience knowledge simply goes too far, and as a result a lot of it feels rushed and shallow. So okay, everyone knows Superman's origin story, his romance with Lois Lane and that he works at the daily planet. Great. But do those people also know Jimmy Olsen and his relationship with Clark Kent? Do they know who Hawk Girl or the Green Lantern Corps are supposed to be and what they do? Those that don't are going to be left completely scrambling as the movie just expects you to pick up what it's putting down amidst its relentless pacing.

I'll backtrack a bit and get some positivity in: David Corenswet is great casting for Superman, and captures the hopeful, bright energy of the character far better than Cavill's moping. He just has a sort of universal charisma that would make you listen to him reading a phone book out loud. Nathan Fillion stole the show for me as Guy Gardner, hairdo criminal extraordinaire, shitty Green Lantern and general narcissistic jackass. It's a character that's incredibly easy to make completely insufferable, but he's in the movie the exact right amount, and he's written and performed exactly right that he's entertainingly irritating instead of offputtingly so. There's some fun action (tons of it in fact) and even creative camerawork to be found, and Superman's capabilities aren't reduced to just punching and punching harder.

But there's no getting around it: this movie feels rushed and overstuffed, and suffers an old pitfall I thought we'd moved past by now: undercutting drama with out of place humor. Very few scenes are allowed to breathe and settle the mood properly as the movie relentlessly jogs onto the next scene with fast dialogue and editing. There's far too many characters and elements to give proper screentime to in the 2 h 9 min runtime (which it feels a lot longer than, incidentally): Superman, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Guy Gardner, Lex Luthor, Hawk Girl, Mr. Terrific, the Fortress of Solitude, the Daily Planet, the list goes on. It feels cruel to say this, but instead of feeling like the beginning of a whole larger world, it ends up feeling almost like a fan film: assuming you already know everything and care so it can get to the cool stuff. Sadly emotional investment is earned, not given.

And then there's the humor. I wouldn't say this is quite as insufferable as Age of Ultron, and the humor that undercuts the film isn't the obnoxious "well that just happened" kind. It's more akin to a sitcom where the humor arises from characters getting hung up on trivial and inconsequential things in the midst of otherwise serious conversations. It's different, but it ends up deflating the dramatic stakes nonetheless. The other type is slapstick physical comedy which you saw in the trailer with Krypto bouncing on Superman, and yes, it's every bit as anti-dramatic as it felt in the trailer. I just don't know why Gunn did it so much here, when the Guardians movies had a pretty much perfect balance of drama, stakes and comedy without one ever stepping on another.

Still, it was good enough that it ended more on the side of positive, but this movie needed to be so much more. We're at a watershed moment with superhero movies, and if any movie should have heralded a new innovative age, it was this one. Instead it's just safe and familiar.
I'd say it could've definitely done away with the whole thing about Supes biological parents' message to him. It gets brought up as this bomshell, but then gets forgotten almost immediately and really doesn't make a proper return to the plot or theme. Also, while Jimmy Olson doesn't necessarily get much screen time it still feels like too much for this movie. Overall the interaction between Clark and Lois, and the Kents (people actually close to him), was too sparse.

I liked Krypto though. I liked that he was a little shit for the majority of the movie, when they could've easily done cutesy-poo dog things to score audience points. He also felt indicative of Supes' inexperience as of yet; this unhinged force that he's responsible for.

Also, totally expected Ultraman to be set up as Bizarro till he got thrown into the black hole. Though maybe he still might. And calling him Ultraman before the reveal pretty much spoiled the surprise, since that's the name of the Evil universe Superman.
 

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Superman (2025) - 10/10

Fan-fucking-tastic. Hugely confident movie that trusts its audience to engage with the some of the truly silly shit that goes on and its good fun. Like I think the opening scene with a very much shit slapped out of him Superman whistling for Krypto ends with him jumping all over him - because Krypto is an excitable dog with Superman's powers - is as decisive a tone setting moment as Iron Man opening to Back in Black. Recommended, go see it.

Now I do have the odd complaint, only one of which isn't nitpicking nerdy bullshit, but for the purpose of keeping it under the hood I shall spoiler them.

Okay the only one that I think has any narrative weight because of how it affects everything going forward, assuming it does, is like many films before them this one burns Lex Luthor in the first movie and I think for any ongoing Superman project that is a mistake.

Second major issue is Guy Gardner trying to play off that he doesn't get involved in politics is stupid; you're a Green Lantern you tool. Stopping unabashed aggression is literally your fucking job.

And, semi-related to that, I really am not a fan of the whole evil Krypton thing; its not invalid since I'm positive its been in more than a few comics, My Adventures with Superman used it really well but its not a plot point I'm a fan of.

And the pettiest of petty for last, why can't Hawkgirl be Shayera Hol and Thanagarian, and also why the hell is Kendra screaming all the time?

But like none of these are deal breakers or affect overall what I felt was an incredibly strong movie, and one of the best Superman movies in a long time.
 
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I'm about 2/3 through Barry Lyndon, and holllyyyy shit, it's incredible. This is probably the one of Kubrick's famous films (meaning post-Paths of Glory) that I knew the least about going in: period piece drama, that's all I knew. But jesus, it's simply breathtaking. Every 2 minutes there's a new shot worthy of an Oscar. The pacing is immaculate, the 2 hours have just breezed by. The storybook style fits perfectly, the acting is great, the production design, sets and costumes are absolutely stunning. Despite centering on just one character it feels huge, like the grandest adventure in history. I'm only stopping it because I've got somewhere to be, but this has serious potential to enter my favorite movies of all time.
 
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Superman (2025) - 10/10

Fan-fucking-tastic. Hugely confident movie that trusts its audience to engage with the some of the truly silly shit that goes on and its good fun. Like I think the opening scene with a very much shit slapped out of him Superman whistling for Krypto ends with him jumping all over him - because Krypto is an excitable dog with Superman's powers - is as decisive a tone setting moment as Iron Man opening to Back in Black. Recommended, go see it.

Now I do have the odd complaint, only one of which isn't nitpicking nerdy bullshit, but for the purpose of keeping it under the hood I shall spoiler them.

Okay the only one that I think has any narrative weight because of how it affects everything going forward, assuming it does, is like many films before them this one burns Lex Luthor in the first movie and I think for any ongoing Superman project that is a mistake.

Second major issue is Guy Gardner trying to play off that he doesn't get involved in politics is stupid; you're a Green Lantern you tool. Stopping unabashed aggression is literally your fucking job.

And, semi-related to that, I really am not a fan of the whole evil Krypton thing; its not invalid since I'm positive its been in more than a few comics, My Adventures with Superman used it really well but its not a plot point I'm a fan of.

And the pettiest of petty for last, why can't Hawkgirl be Shayera Hol and Thanagarian, and also why the hell is Kendra screaming all the time?

But like none of these are deal breakers or affect overall what I felt was an incredibly strong movie, and one of the best Superman movies in a long time.
I regards to Guy Gardner, if he is going to be a recurring character in this series of films, is he really just going to be Nathan Fillion mugging it up? Not that the guy can't turn in a more dramatic performance, but with how he's portrayed...
 

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I'd say it could've definitely done away with the whole thing about Supes biological parents' message to him. It gets brought up as this bomshell, but then gets forgotten almost immediately and really doesn't make a proper return to the plot or theme. Also, while Jimmy Olson doesn't necessarily get much screen time it still feels like too much for this movie. Overall the interaction between Clark and Lois, and the Kents (people actually close to him), was too sparse.
Minus Jimmy, this sums up my main problems with the movie. I already don't know much I like the idea behind this version of Krypton just in principle, but they didn't even execute it decently. Complicates the Supergirl reveal as well.

Lois and Clark have so much chemistry (maybe a little too much, did they really need to tongue that long), but their relationship does not develop whatsoever. Just kind starts and jumps to the end. The Kents were adorable, but given how important they supposedly are to the movie, its weird they only show up twice. And basically don't interact with Lois at all.
 

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Minus Jimmy, this sums up my main problems with the movie. I already don't know much I like the idea behind this version of Krypton just in principle, but they didn't even execute it decently. Complicates the Supergirl reveal as well.
They might end up retconning it. I don't know what choices they're going to make with Supergirl. I'm not that well-versed on the character, but from what I know Clark was sent as a baby and she was sent as a late teen. And it's this that makes them different from eachother, with Clark feeling totally at home on Earth and Kara having the memory of watching her home planet explode. Maybe that's why in this movie she's constantly going on benders off-planet, to drown her misery.
 

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Superman 6/10
An entertaining watch for sure. Supes and Luthor are well cast and acted. Hawkgirl hawk tuahs the scenery and my ears. Mister Terrific is cool and all and his smh-attitude fine for the screentime. Rumor has it that they cut the scenes where Krypto gets beaten up. Such a win for animal rights. Anyway, "well, that just happened" -style of humor is tried and tested and annoying as hell while Gunn's jokes are often about little things blown out of proportion. The city is about to be destroyed? "PUT MY CAT ON THE LINE, C'MON! PUT HER ON THE LINE!!" Sometimes it's funny and often meh. The action is of course a stream of sfx-shots but I found the end of the second act to be the best one. Unless you count the epic fight against the interdimensional imp!

Lastly not a slight against the movie but I hate how they don't translate names in the subtitles (anymore). I know it's not up to the translator, BUT the subtitles had a few mistakes too! Hate mail -> sent! Or at least when I find out who did the subs... which will probably be in 3 months when the movie releases on VOD. Or three weeks like it was with Minecraft.
They might end up retconning it. I'm not that well-versed on the character.
Supergirl will have her own movie, an adaptation of Woman of Tomorrow with Lobo somehow shoved in as a cameo or otherwise. Also Kara's planet hopping means they must have a working Kryptonian spacecraft.
 

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Superman (2025)

Most recent Superman movie directed by James Gunn, fresh off of the Guardians of the Galaxy series and The Suicide Squad (not to be confused with Suicide Squad) and... I want to say "reboot of DC's cinematic universe" but this has an appearance of a character and actor from The Suicide Squad which in turn features characters from the original Suicide Squad, which in turn has one who was also in Justice League and... listen, it's very decidedly not in the same continuity as the Man of Steel - Batman versus Superman - Justice League trilogy, don't take it too seriously, Gunn certainly didn't.

Listen, I'm gonna keep the complaining about how this is not like my Snyder movies to a minimum because I'm well aware that absolutely no one wants to read that, so I'm going to draw comparisons only where it explicitly invites them. That said, I also can't in good conscience completely ignore them and treat it as a blank slate for reasons will become apparent throughout this write-up.

So, Superman '25 follows it's titular character, played by David Corenswet, at a stage of his career farther along then the previous movies ever got. He has an ice fortress with funny robot servants and a dog and a girlfriend and some rapport with the other superheroes in his world. Evil businessman Lex Luthor, played by Nicholas Hoult, wants to take him down by framing him as a hostile alien invader.

There's something to be said about James Gunn in that he's a considerably more talented and more ambitious director than the likes of Joss Whedon and Jon Favreau and the Russo Brothers and whoever else belongs in the list of usual suspects of franchise film making. His exploitation movie background meaning his origins are much closer to the likes of Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson than that of many of his peers who came straight from television and in terms of attitude, never really left it. Which makes it all the more regrettable that I find it difficult not to think of him as a sellout. And you are very well in your right to ask why I don't think of the aforementioned Peter Jackson and Sam Raimi that way, which is mostly because I think they peaked much higher than he ever did. Like, Raimi's and Jackson's first forays into franchise film making were the 00's Spider-Man trilogy and the fucking Lord of the Rings trilogy, Gunn's were... the live action Scooby Doo movies. Not to be passive aggressive or anything, I don't think he's a poor film maker but he's clearly a guy who, when push comes to shove, plays ball with the studio and usually lets it win. There's something to be said about the fact that after Disney tried to fire him from his position as the Guardians of the Galaxy director for what were clearly political reasons, he went back to work with them again.

But let's talk about the actual movie. Superman '25 is quite weird. Gunn is a comedy director so it should come as no surprise that the movie is, indeed, a comedy. It's portrayal of the larger DC universe is actually quite reminiscent of works like The Venture Brothers or The Tick, kind of a quirky, screwball take on 50's and 60's comic book writing and how intrinsically funny it is whenever you try to apply real world logic to it. Which makes for an interesting contrast to Snyder's trilogy, which went to great lengths to play this setting and these characters as serious urban fantasy and seemlessly integrate them into a world very similar akd yet very different to our own.

And that, you see brings us to why I can't, in good conscience, just ignore Snyder's trilogy when talking about this movie: Despite their radical differences in tone and style, Superman '25 has a lot of the same things on its mind as those movies, particularly Batman v Superman, did. Superman '25 is a decidedly political work. It does go over so many of the same basic themes as that movie did that it has surely got to be intentional. Superman as an illegal immigrant, the ethics of unilateral intervention in international affairs, Lex Luthor reimagined as a tech oligarch with government contracts, the role of the media in determining the perception of public figures, except its modus operandi is maniacal and silly rather than solemn and operatic.

In some ways Superman feels like an adaptation of Batman v Superman by a less mature director for a less mature audience and a prudent metaphor for the old aphorism of "Everything happens twice, first as a tragedy, then as a farce." but, mind, It's not that there's anything wrong with making a farce, necessarily.

My feelings towards Superman '25 are actually pretty mixed. It walks a thin line between, frankly, shitposting its way through a plot that is clearly a very deliberate attempt to include as many campy comic book cliche's as it can and avoiding anything that could possibly be confused for high drama, making us actually care about its main characters and producing something resembling pertinent satire that it occasionally feels almost experimental. It doesn't exactly land most of the time but when it did I was genuinely getting into it.

Let me put it this way: there were moments when Superman '25 felt like an updated version of Southland Tales in the way it juxtaposes topical political commentary, vulgar low brow comedy and casual genre surrealism and these were the moments when I actually kinda fucked with it. There are some bits in this that are so confidently idiotic that I couldn't help but admire them. The movie doesn't exactly keep that up for its entire runtime, of course. It's very much a patchwork of stuff it's throwing against the wall and I don't think as much of it sticks as doesn't. Very close to the beginning there is, honestly, one of the most tedious exposition dumps I've had to listen to in a long time (and I've been playing two different Hideo Kojima games recently) and I was bracing myself for a very painful two hours and while the entire movie thankfully wasn't like that, the dialogue had a tendency to fluctuate between extremely awkward banter and extremely awkward exposition.

While Superman '25 does have a lot of ideas and only some of it really feels like it's paid off well. On account of its decision to jump in at the deep end with its world building it presents a setting where we are expected to just take the presence of superheroes as part of daily life for granted. Superheroes who have corporate sponsorships and government deals with the implication being that Superman is the only one keeping it real, man, which is kind of a fun idea it pursues for all of about five minutes. I know some people consider that sort of thing a spoiler so I'm not gonna give away what characters show up in supporting roles and cameo's but it seems basically tailor made so that fans can have heated discussions about who stole the show and have their own spin-off. I found most of them pretty one note. Not to give away who he's playing or anything but Nathan Fillion shows up, doing his Bruce Campbell corny pompous macho action hero shtick and it was... mildly amusing.

It's hard to talk about Superman '25 as a whole because there are so many weird little quirks to it, some stupid, some fun, some annoying, some just confusing. Some are definitely James Gunn trademarks. There's a Kaiju (even referred to as such). There's a funny animal character. There are women in gratuitously revealing outfits. Some aren't. There's a secondary villain who's literally just an amalgamation of Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu whose payoff felt weirdly reminiscent of Michael Bay's Netflix exclusive 6 Underground. It has a rather odd, retrofuturistic visual style, very slick, very clean, very saturated colours. There's also just how... modular the story feels. It's like there are four separate arcs in there that don't actually feel all that seamless and more than anything made me feel like I'm watching Shin Ultraman all over again. God. Somewhere along the line I've just entered a "Most obscure reference" competition with myself, haven't I?

All things considered, I'm not sure where I land on with this. I want to give it some credit for how weird it's willing to get but then I remember some of the dialogue and I cringe. I didn't have a miserable time watching it or anything, in fact I think overall I had some fun but I'm very hesitant to actually call it good, y'know. It's a better version of what it is than it could have been, I guess. I don't usually pit a lot of thought into my star ratings on here, because they're more of an afterthought, but very rarely have I ever been so back and forth about that half star that makes the difference between "whatever" and "fine". I'm a nice guy so I guess I'm not gonna hold on to it but I don't feel particularly confident about it. Let me be real, when Superman '25 is stupid, it's really stupid and when it's annoying, it's really annoying. If you treat it as a follow-up to what are probably some of the most artistic superhero movies ever made, it's a joke. And I wouldn't even be doing it if it wasn't lifting so many of its themes directly from them. But what can I say? I have a a soft spot for hyperactive messy nonsense.
 
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Which makes it all the more regrettable that I find it difficult not to think of him as a sellout.
I am not a fan of all of Gunn's works (I hate both live-action Scooby Doo films), but I don't consider him a 'sellout'. At least he makes the movies he wants to make.

I just got back from seeing Superman (2025).........

What an excellent film! It's a different, but a familiar take on Superman, and Gunn knocked out of the park, similar to Snyder's own unique take with Man of Steel. I do love how Gunn weaved other metahumans and other superheroes in the narrative and world building without it being distracting. They're are there, and do help out, but this is still a Superman film.

I really have no complaints. The movie doesn't take much to get going, and it does not waste time on an origin story as Clark has already been Superman for 3 years in-universe. Gunn does take certain elements here and there from many different Superman adaptions, but still carves out his own unique vision, and the use of obscure/semi-obscure pop songs. As to be expected. The man knows how to do scale and action correctly as always. This film does feel closest to the 90s Superman Animated Series and somewhat Timmverse JL in terms of tone, and I am all for it. So those whining about not having their "true Timmverse adaption (like Nostalgia Critic/Channel Awesome)" can all shut the fuck up or get out.

The humor never bothered nor annoyed me. If anything, while there are similar antics from Gunn, it's actually toned down or done in much more subtle ways. Even if I didn't like Gunn's humor, I would take it any day over Bay's shitty attempt at humor.

This film gets an S-Rank exactly like Man of Steel. I love both of these movies for the same and different reasons. We now have two of the best live-action Superman films ever made now!

@FakeSympathy, I am glad you were able to see this early. My parents are going to see this on my dad's birthday next weekend. Thank you for your input.
 

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Barry Lyndon, 9/10

Absolutely amazing. Possibly the most beautiful-looking film I've ever seen. On a visual and technical level it is just a marvel, it's like the tech death metal of movies. Despite Barry being basically a thorough dipshit it never gets unengaging. There is so much variety and fun to sink your teeth into, it has a very distinct, dry sense of humor. It gets a bit slower in the second half which I didn't like quite as much as the adventure of the first half, but I was still thoroughly engaged. Usually when you think Kubrick you think abstract, weird or at least unconventional, but Barry Lyndon is a very straightforward, very accessible narrative about the life of basically a piece of shit. Usually this time period is the least interesting setting for me in terms of fiction, but here I was just glued to the screen. Just incredible, might get bumped to a 10 when I watch it again.

Werckmeister Harmonies, 5/10

This is a 2000 film by Hungarian director Béla Tarr. I could describe the plot, but it's much easier to do like this: picture an eastern european art film. You're probably imagining something exactly like Werckmeister Harmonies. Bleak, arty, depressing, consisting mostly of sad-looking men in dreary environments talking about stuff, looking into nothingness, or just walking. And boy, this movie takes its tiiiiiiiime. There are countless incredibly long takes (the entire 2 h 20 min is done in only 38 shots) that consist of people just walking or running, and nothing else. I watched it in two parts, and both times I was in serious risk of falling asleep. It's not something to watch or recommend on a whim, you have to know what you're getting into. Perhaps the most interesting thing about it is the worldbuilding: at first you think it's some WW2 period piece, but little by little you start to realize that the movie doesn't take place in any specific place or time period, it's a strange, alternate universe that seems stuck both in 1940 and 1980 at the same time. This allows it allegorical storytelling to be more accessible, because you can draw your own interpretation of it. Your mileage with this will vary entirely on how much snail's pace arthouse cinema stylings you can tolerate, and my patience for it isn't great.
 
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The Shanghai series is definitely my preferable American Jackie Chan movie series.
 

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K-pop Demon Hunter.

It earns 8/10 for me.

Wow. As a Korean, this was a lot to take in.

I will start with the good stuff; The animation and soundtrack were absolute top notch! The animation was really colorful, detailed. and switches between the smooth and stop-motion was amazing. Also, all the songs, including the villain songs, were absolutely K-pop! I am actually impressed they created this many original songs just for this movie. They are all catchy, the lyrics are meaningful, and the way the songs actually relate to story and personal struggles of our heroines was amazing.

The humor was really great too! Just about every humor, funny faces, and funny lines from all the Korean animated shows that I grew up with were there.

...However, I would say the overall story is the weakness; Because it's so fucking cliche. We have:
  • They are part of the ancient order/guardian/warriors who have defended humanity for centries
  • The MC has a dark secret that they are afraid to share with the rest
  • The evil big bad plots something different, thinking "The heroes will lose for sure this time, muhwahahaha!"
  • The hero falling in love with someone in the bad guy group
  • The hero accepting their flaws/shortcoming, but finds strength in their loved ones
The above are the cliches that I've seen in every single hero vs evil story lines. But it also has so much clichés from those rising superstar story media:
  • The hero/group has struggles at the height of the popularity
  • They are challenged by new stars
  • The break-up/rift in the group
  • They make up and come together at the end.
I guess I shouldn't have expected much for a movie called K-pop Demon Hunter, but I feel they could've done SOMETHING original. Not to mention the concept of music-stars-being-heroes-in-disguise itself has already been done so many times in the past.

IDK, I guess you aren't really supposed to watch this movie for the story, but for the visuals and animations. Because fight sequences were fucking bomb!
 
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Heads of State - A fun buddy action film with Cena and Elba as bad ass president and prime minister respectively. Pretty good and creative action. Decent to good humor. A solid 8/10 action film.
 

Gordon_4

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K-pop Demon Hunter.

It earns 8/10 for me.

Wow. As a Korean, this was a lot to take in.

I will start with the good stuff; The animation and soundtrack were absolute top notch! The animation was really colorful, detailed. and switches between the smooth and stop-motion was amazing. Also, all the songs, including the villain songs, were absolutely K-pop! I am actually impressed they created this many original songs just for this movie. They are all catchy, the lyrics are meaningful, and the way the songs actually relate to story and personal struggles of our heroines was amazing.

The humor was really great too! Just about every humor, funny faces, and funny lines from all the Korean animated shows that I grew up with were there.

...However, I would say the overall story is the weakness; Because it's so fucking cliche. We have:
  • They are part of the ancient order/guardian/warriors who have defended humanity for centries
  • The MC has a dark secret that they are afraid to share with the rest
  • The evil big bad plots something different, thinking "The heroes will lose for sure this time, muhwahahaha!"
  • The hero falling in love with someone in the bad guy group
  • The hero accepting their flaws/shortcoming, but finds strength in their loved ones
The above are the cliches that I've seen in every single hero vs evil story lines. But it also has so much clichés from those rising superstar story media:
  • The hero/group has struggles at the height of the popularity
  • They are challenged by new stars
  • The break-up/rift in the group
  • They make up and come together at the end.
I guess I shouldn't have expected much for a movie called K-pop Demon Hunter, but I feel they could've done SOMETHING original. Not to mention the concept of music-stars-being-heroes-in-disguise itself has already been done so many times in the past.

IDK, I guess you aren't really supposed to watch this movie for the story, but for the visuals and animations. Because fight sequences were fucking bomb!
Cliché executed excellently is infinitely more enjoyable than unique/interesting executed poorly.