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[FakeSympathy]

Cliché executed excellently is infinitely more enjoyable than unique/interesting executed poorly.

Fair points.

Another thing the movie does well is how well Korean culture is represented. Whoever was in charge of character and environmental design clearly was a Korean themselves, or someone who understood the culture really well. The casual clothing, the foods they eat, and not to mention the on-point depiction of Seoul, were all superb.

That goes for the monster designs as well! They are all straight out of Korean Folklore. Saja in particular caught my attention. Officially known as Jeosung Saja, in Korena folklore they are the grim reapers who takes people's spirits to the afterlife, where they are judged to be sent to hell or paradise based on their past deeds. They are depicted as loyal servant to King yama (a deity found in multiple Asian culture), and often are cynical and brutally honest with the meaning of life. They really aren't evil per se, just kinda scary to encounter

But here, they pretty much threw away all that, and gave one of them a humanizing background, which was interesting. Also they are straight up demons instead of being servants to Yama.

 

[thebobmaster]

A ★★½ review of I, Robot (2004)

“Can a robot write a symphony? Can a robot turn a canvas into a beautiful masterpiece?” “Can you?” To the surprise of pretty much no one who is familiar with the namesake story by Isaac Asimov, this film did not start out as an adaptation of any sort, instead being written in 1995 by Jeff Vitnar...

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[CriticalGaming]

I saw the new Superman movie and it is a meh in my opinion. The main problem is that Superman is a giant ***** in the film and get's his fucking ass beat for basically the whole damn movie until the end when he finally wins against something. Even then he needs help from Krypto and the Justice Friends. The other issue is that they tried to cram way too many things into the film for some reason. There are like four or five plot threads that try to interweave around the whole film and it makes the pacing move really fast. To the point where plots and conflicts appear and sort of resolve within the same scene or within a couple minutes before the film forgets about it and it's off to the next plot. Almost none of the James Gunn humor works in this film, where it works for Guardians and I think the need for the humor is why the Justice fuckers are in the film at all, for the soel purpose of having humor to bounce around between characters as Superman alone couldn't carry the style of humor James likes to use.



It's not a bad movie, it's well made and the guy playing Superman does a good enough job, though I like Henry Cavill better. It's just not a spectacular movie and it doesn't really embrace the comic book characters the way Marvel movies used to.

 

[CriticalGaming]

I liked Krypto though. I liked that he was a little shit for the majority of the movie, when they could've easily done cutesy-poo dog things to score audience points. He also felt indicative of Supes' inexperience as of yet; this unhinged force that he's responsible for.

I frankly hated the dog, because it was just a humor device. Oh no the dog misbehaves and causes problems, it's so quirky like real dogs. I thought he was wholy pointless and jarring for the film.

Also since when can Superman make AI robots? And code DNA?

 

[BrawlMan]

Also since when can Superman make AI robots? And code DNA?

Depends on the version, but the Super robots have been around since 80s in the comics. They do show up in Superman vs. The Elite ( it too from the comics, and it's animated adaptation have them). The DNA sensor code varies but it does show up in most continuties or adaptations. Even Man of Steel has this. Though it's implied Jor-El/Jor-El's AI set it up that way before Clark landed on Earth. Also Superman isn't stupid, and is not exactly outside of his wheelhouse to do some of this stuff.

 

[Kyrian007]

I saw Superman back on Friday. I loved it. Pretty easy to like, considering how awful the last stab at the character was though. I gave MoS 1/10, DoJ 0/10, and JL 1/10 no matter which version was seen. This Superman gets a solid 7.5 or so.

The good: They got the character right, back to a much more gold and silver age Superman personality wise. None of that 90's edgelord garbage, or rather a hint of it for a scene or two before Supes gets a good talking to from his dad realizes he's being a crybaby idiot. It's a pretty solid and hilarious shot at the previous angsty MoS Superman, like saying very loudly at the team behind the prior reboot "hey, here's a Superman who acts like an adult... not a teenager." Lex Luthor is better. Less goofy or humorous than prior iterations, but he nails the kind of techbro they have gone with for the character. Way better than Eisenberg. Lois and the rest of the Daily Planet crew get their moment of agency, helping take down Luthor as opposed to just being "save me" material damsels in distress. They address the collateral destruction, making it pretty clear that not only does superman fight the bad guys... he saves everyone while doing it. And he does all that because he can, because he"s Superman. No neck snaps then Christensen/Vader "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"s, then a french kiss with Lois amongst thousands of dead. This Superman just beats the bad guy, saves everyone, carries on, and then fade to credits.

The bad: Lex isn't menacing enough. No knock against the actor, that level of menace from a character like Lex isn't easy to pull off. They kind of did both sets of Superman's parents kind of dirty. One was to further a plot point that I mentioned earlier and may have been necessary for that bit to land, and the other they kind of half undid with a decent speech from Jon Kent.

There's probably more, but that was the big takeaway from me. It was good, and after the godawful mess that Snyder left for the franchise... it was much better than it needed to be to clear that low a bar. A Superman movie that ended with Perry White cutting such a loud fart that it distracted Lex a critical moment and that saved the day... even that would have been an improvement.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

Mickey 17
grade: B-

The latest from the director of Parasite, starring Robert Pattinson as a guy on a space colony whose job it is to do dangerous deadly tasks and get reprinted every time he dies. It is kind of wacky dark sci-fi piece. Mark Ruffalo as the Bolsanaro/Trump/Musk cult-space leader.

I dunno.. it's kind of ok, but ultimately way too all over the place. The premise is great and there are certainly good visual gags. But as with a lot of movies, it starts to take itself a bit too seriously as an actual action movie or drama at various points and it makes the pacing confusing. Sometimes the comedy is too try-hard especially around Ruffalo's character.

Pattinson is kind of like Anne Hathaway- I always appreciate their work ethic and being game for anything but something about them always comes off as a little... lacking. I will always be interested in anything he does because he's interested in doing weird and cool things but I'm always gonna wish that it was a young Nick Cage or Colin Farrell doing those roles.

I'd recommend for anyone needing their quirky sci-fi-ish fix but it's not a must-watch by any means.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I saw the new Superman movie and it is a meh in my opinion. The main problem is that Superman is a giant ***** in the film and get's his fucking ass beat for basically the whole damn movie until the end when he finally wins against something.

Considering who he's revealed to be fighting against that isn't too surprising. Also, he beats both Ultraman, the Engineer, and the Raptor squad. The only time he really needs help is when he can't be in two places at the same time, and when he's got kryptonite shoved in his face, otherwise he handles things on his own. Krypto needing to take out the control drones is the one thing that feels off, since you'd think Supes could just super speed/laser those things himself.

Superman is a giant p*ssy, but... yeah - he's Superman. He's generally been the been bing blue boyscout, not the big blue brawler. The movie makes it a point that he's a big marshmellow like his dad. They expressely show him saving a squirrel during a giant monster attack in clear opposition to what superhero movies have been doing in the last decade and a half.

Also since when can Superman make AI robots? And code DNA?

The Fortress of Solitude is hyper advanced space shit that pretty much substitutes for magic, so everything that you see there probably came with it. Also, there are some iterations of the character where his brain also benefits from the yellow sun, and he's pretty much a genius.

 

[CriticalGaming]

Considering who he's revealed to be fighting against that isn't too surprising. Also, he beats both Ultraman, the Engineer, and the Raptor squad. The only time he really needs help is when he can't be in two places at the same time, and when he's got kryptonite shoved in his face, otherwise he handles things on his own. Krypto needing to take out the control drones is the one thing that feels off, since you'd think Supes could just super speed/laser those things himself.

Superman is a giant p*ssy, but... yeah - he's Superman. He's generally been the been bing blue boyscout, not the big blue brawler. The movie makes it a point that he's a big marshmellow like his dad. They expressely show him saving a squirrel during a giant monster attack in clear opposition to what superhero movies have been doing in the last decade and a half.

The Fortress of Solitude is hyper advanced space shit that pretty much substitutes for magic, so everything that you see there probably came with it. Also, there are some iterations of the character where his brain also benefits from the yellow sun, and he's pretty much a genius.

I preferred Henry Cavill's overpower ass because it felt more accurate to how OP Supes is in the comic. He get's hit, and even dies sometimes, but he rarely is ever hurt by anything including death. Scenes like when Batman's Krypto dust wears off and Supe's head doesn't even flinch from the armored suit punches, or when the bomb goes off in court and he just stands there in the fire all disappointed and shit.

This superman gets cuts and broken bones from shit that I don't think he should have. Especially when he takes some hits that don't hurt him at all. Overall I found his power to be very inconsistent. Strong when the plot needed him to be, but mostly a punching bag the whole time, and I just found it boring especially since the Justice Fuckers are never challenged, which I understand it's not their movie, but they feel more heroic than the star of the show. It's just a wonky ass movie.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I preferred Henry Cavill's overpower ass because it felt more accurate to how OP Supes is in the comic. He get's hit, and even dies sometimes, but he rarely is ever hurt by anything including death. Scenes like when Batman's Krypto dust wears off and Supe's head doesn't even flinch from the armored suit punches, or when the bomb goes off in court and he just stands there in the fire all disappointed and shit.

This superman gets cuts and broken bones from shit that I don't think he should have. Especially when he takes some hits that don't hurt him at all. Overall I found his power to be very inconsistent. Strong when the plot needed him to be, but mostly a punching bag the whole time, and I just found it boring especially since the Justice Fuckers are never challenged, which I understand it's not their movie, but they feel more heroic than the star of the show. It's just a wonky ass movie.

Again, considering who it is that breaks his bones....another Superman, I don't see why that shouldn't happen. The only other time he gets hurt is because of kryptonite.

And 'Superman in the comic' is pretty broad, since originally he couldn't even fly. That only came with the Fleisher cartoons. How OP he is really depends on who's at the helm of the story - it's never been set in stone. Heck, neither is Batman's or Spider-Man's. Sometimes Spider-man can lift a car, sometimes he gets knocked on his ass by a lamp post.

 

[CriticalGaming]

Again, considering who it is that breaks his bones....another Superman, I don't see why that shouldn't happen. The only other time he gets hurt is because of kryptonite.

And 'Superman in the comic' is pretty broad, since originally he couldn't even fly. That only came with the Fleisher cartoons. How OP he is really depends on who's at the helm of the story - it's never been set in stone. Heck, neither is Batman's or Spider-Man's. Sometimes Spider-man can lift a car, sometimes he gets knocked on his ass by a lamp post.

Very true, the comics are inconsistent with powers. And i happen to prefer the more OP versions of characters, mostly because I like seeing things going at their full potential. Often times the weakening of characters are an attempt to humanize and make them more relatable. But Superman can never be human or relatable as a person from his power stand point. The way you make him relatable is you showcase his relationships, his parents, Lois, his love, having him deal with real human things when he isn't being Superman is how you make him interesting.

The Superman and Lois show with Tyler H, is a great relatable superman. His relationships make him relatable and interesting, but his power makes him EXCITING. That's the two-sided coin Superman stories should play on. At least in my opinion, look at Spider-man movies for example, the focus isn't so much on him being Spider-man as much at they are him juggling being Spider-man alongside his relationships.

Superman's problem is that he is SO powerful that you can't build drama by threatening him because he can't be hurt typically. However if the comics can write out fights for him, then I don't see why a movie couldn't either.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Superman - 7/10

Overall I really enjoyed it but it was messy in plot points and themes; though I feel like Superman's family arc landed. I do love how we got like the most non-Hollywood version of a Superman movie that could probably be made; we got Miriam Maisel as Lois Lane, Nathan Fillion as a Green Lantern, and basically character actors as like every casting choice. Mr. Terrific was also a standout and has a very fun fight scene reminiscent of Yondu's iconic fight scene from Guardians. I do feel Gunn's The Suicide Squad was a better overall movie but Superman was quite a bit of fun.

Double Take - 2/10

I was listening to Red Letter Media's Back to the Future review that they did like last week and Double Take got mentioned (as they were talking about product placement) and I was like I never saw that even though I wanted to when it came out since I was pretty young then and it had Dennis Rodman (and I was a huge Bulls fan back then). This movie is really bad, it feels like every line of dialogue was dubbed over, the action scenes are really bad, the ending scene where Coke vending machines save them is a must see though. The whole ending is ridiculous with Van Damme being chased by a lion in the Roman Colosseum that's obviously not the real place. And Rodman gets to make as many basketball puns as humanely possible.

 

[thebobmaster]

A ★★★★★ review of The Outsiders (1983)

“Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold.” Francis Ford Coppola initially had no interest in making any sort of film about teenage angst. However, when he received a petition from an elementary school asking him to make an adaptation of S.E. Hinton's novel, with about 15 pages of signatures from the...

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[Johnny Novgorod]

F1 - 4/5

Brad Pitt called the director of Top Gun: Maverick at 3AM and told him "I want one too".

Superman - 3/5

Felt like the second movie in a trilogy. The hero's crisis of confidence in his mission/identity, constantly getting ass whooped, the relationship not working out. That and the villain carrying the movie, much llike how Joker takes over TDK. This is Lex's movie. I got a kick out of his theme song playing whenever he'd complete yet another phase of his eeeevil plan. I could've used more Superman/Luthor scenes.

We spend maybe a little too much time coming and going from that pocket dimension that looks like a holdover from GotG. And maybe I've had a little too much The Boys/Invincible yogurt but there's way too much in this movie that reminds me of those shows, to the point of feeling "influenced" by shtick. Especially with the Viltrumite reveal, the pocket dimensions and the mundanity of alien invasions from Invincible, and the douchy sponsored justice league from The Boys. They even do the comic book reveal of Black Noir being a clone of what's basically a stand-in for Superman. Now Superman has been around for 100 years and I'm sure there's precedent for just about everything in them, but still.

It's all fairly entertaining. The only thing that took me out of it was what felt like a half-baked attempt at bringing in Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Palestine into a silly movie with superheroes and aliens and robots and legions of trained monkeys spamming hashtags in an interdimensional prison. Early on Superman gets chewed out during a lengthy interview that's supposed to question the ethics of superhero meddling and the dangers of ignoring the sociopolitical ramifications of well-meaning interventionism. And oh my god Clark, if you corner Vladimir Netanyahu against a cactus and chastise him for invading Paleskraine isn't that torture? Later, by the same authority and irreverence, Hawkgirl drops the same dude to his death ("I'm not Superman") and the movie unambiguously depicts it as a triumph. Which one is it?

 

[CriticalGaming]

Brad Pitt called the director of Top Gun: Maverick at 3AM and told him "I want one too".

i too really enjoyed this movie. I thought it worked as a realistic F1 movie as much as possible. And the action scenes were great.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

i too really enjoyed this movie. I thought it worked as a realistic F1 movie as much as possible. And the action scenes were great.

It's great filmmaking and an excellent piece of movie star worship.

I thought they overdid "Pitt wins the race by exploiting the rules and bordering on foul play" a few too many times but I realize the character needed an edge beyond just going fast, and the movie benefitted by being able to convey that visually. But if Sonny Hayes was a racer in real life I'd be rolling my eyes every time he stepped out on the race track thinking, Alright what bullshit is he gonna try pull today?

 

[Gordon_4]

F1 - 4/5

Brad Pitt called the director of Top Gun: Maverick at 3AM and told him "I want one too".

Superman - 3/5

Felt like the second movie in a trilogy. The hero's crisis of confidence in his mission/identity, constantly getting ass whooped, the relationship not working out. That and the villain carrying the movie, much llike how Joker takes over TDK. This is Lex's movie. I got a kick out of his theme song playing whenever he'd complete yet another phase of his eeeevil plan. I could've used more Superman/Luthor scenes.

We spend maybe a little too much time coming and going from that pocket dimension that looks like a holdover from GotG. And maybe I've had a little too much The Boys/Invincible yogurt but there's way too much in this movie that reminds me of those shows, to the point of feeling "influenced" by shtick. Especially with the Viltrumite reveal, the pocket dimensions and the mundanity of alien invasions from Invincible, and the douchy sponsored justice league from The Boys. They even do the comic book reveal of Black Noir being a clone of what's basically a stand-in for Superman. Now Superman has been around for 100 years and I'm sure there's precedent for just about everything in them, but still.

It's all fairly entertaining. The only thing that took me out of it was what felt like a half-baked attempt at bringing in Russia/Ukraine/Israel/Palestine into a silly movie with superheroes and aliens and robots and legions of trained monkeys spamming hashtags in an interdimensional prison. Early on Superman gets chewed out during a lengthy interview that's supposed to question the ethics of superhero meddling and the dangers of ignoring the sociopolitical ramifications of well-meaning interventionism. And oh my god Clark, if you corner Vladimir Netanyahu against a cactus and chastise him for invading Paleskraine isn't that torture? Later, by the same authority and irreverence, Hawkgirl drops the same dude to his death ("I'm not Superman") and the movie unambiguously depicts it as a triumph. Which one is it?

It’s a different strokes thing but I don’t know enough about Kendra Saunders to judge if it’s an action inside her wheelhouse. For me personally, it would have worked much better with the Thanagarian Shayera Hol because she’s a part of the Thangar military so it would feel more on brand.

Plus there’s something really weird about Guy Gardner - noted hothead - trying to play the apolitical card when he is a Green-Fucking-Lantern: going and spanking Borovia for their behaviour is literally his fucking job and why the Guardians of the Universe gave him his ring. I’m also wondering how the leadership on Oa feel about him being part of this little club.

 

[Gordon_4]

A ★★★★★ review of The Outsiders (1983)

“Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold.” Francis Ford Coppola initially had no interest in making any sort of film about teenage angst. However, when he received a petition from an elementary school asking him to make an adaptation of S.E. Hinton's novel, with about 15 pages of signatures from the...

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I love this book and film. Really sad though.

 

[thebobmaster]

I love this book and film. Really sad though.

I was almost in tears by the time the movie ended. I remembered how it ended, but I forgot just how well Matt Dillon sold it.

 

[Gordon_4]

I was almost in tears by the time the movie ended. I remembered how it ended, but I forgot just how well Matt Dillon sold it.

Have you read the book? If not I recommend it a) because it’s really good and b) it may offer some insight into what was cut from the film.

Like I remember in the book there’s a scene where Bob’s best friend - I forget his name sadly - goes to visit Ponyboy which was really emotional but I don’t remember if the movie has it. And I think most of the scenes with Johnny’s mother were cut.