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Johnny Novgorod

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Weirdly sorta kinda actually looking forward to this. I rewatched the second movie in 4K a few days ago (only saw it once when it came out), and despite the meatheaded plot and dorky characters James Cameron still has that mastery when it comes to filmmaking. Dude knows how to make scenes engaging and tense even when the characters are these awkward looking cat people yelling 'bro'.
I think part of it, for me, is that while these movies keep getting bigger and louder as the world expands and its contents thicken, they also become increasingly more intimate as characters deal with interpersonal relations that go beyond the mere personality clash you see in, say, the average superhero movie. Like right off the bat it's incredibly interesting to me that you have a father and a mother who're each quietly and separately blaming a different child for the death of their eldest, which drives their kids to different points of action, while also fighting with each other over their own prejudices, and you get so many cool little moments where decisions are made and actions play out and relationships take a turn and you can feel shared history weighing down between them... I think big expansive movies like these benefit from that kind of detail and specificity. The average action-adventure tentpole today writes every character of every age and gender and background as snarky co-workers and I'm all for Cameron's blue cat people, who chant yayayayaya as they fly on aliens and shoot machine guns, selling me on actual human beings with dynamic relationships.

That and Cameron is just that good at pacing and delivering action sequences. Although like I said, I found the ending of Fire and Ash a little too similar to Way of Water, and I have to say the PG-ness of it all was beginning to get on my nerves.
 

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That and Cameron is just that good at pacing and delivering action sequences. Although like I said, I found the ending of Fire and Ash a little too similar to Way of Water, and I have to say the PG-ness of it all was beginning to get on my nerves.
He still gets to sneak in some harder material though - Can't speak for the third movie yet, but the second movie showing a mama whale getting killed infront of its infant, with the infant later being shown to be dead too, and a dude getting his arm cut off by a cable. These are the teeth PG movies used to have back in the 90's and early 00's.

I think a good deal of Cameron being this good is also him being given the room to be this good. Guy has a lot of clout and a tendency to throw his weight around, so the amount of studio interference is probably significantly less. Obviously a huge amount of talent is necessary to make CGI look this good, but in Avatar and The Way of Water's case I reckon being given enough time to work on it is probably key.
 

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The Man from U.N.C.L.E. - 9/10

Honestly, if this hadn't come out up against James Bond, Mission Impossible and Kingsman it would have done much better. Cavill and Hammer had excellent chemistry as Solo and Kuryakin and having Gabby made for a nice little bit of banter. Though I got to say, Elizabeth Debicki, impresses the most. She's this commanding, ethereal and evil ***** that I kind of wish had been able to be preserved for future films. Sadly, it did too poorly to warrant any, and the final nail was probably whatever the fuck happened with Armie Hammer.
 

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Death Of A Unicorn: I Saw It / Great

A father and daughter (Paul Rudd and Jenna Ortega) on a trip to schmooze some corporate execs of the medical sector accidentally hit and "kill" a unicorn with their car. Once it's discovered the unicorn's blood has miraculous curative properties, shit gets complicated.

Not a good movie, but a pretty ham-fisted and deserved dig at our healthcare system. That said, I don't know who this movie was for. The premise is too aloof to be as teachable as it wants to be, and too stupid to be entertaining for anyone too dense to "get it." It feels like a movie they finished only because of a sunk cost fallacy; pulling down names like Rudd and Ortega means you can't admit you've got a shit movie after filming started.

I will credit it with eschewing the archetypal romanticizing of unicorns in lieu of making the creatures incredibly violent in a way Guillermo del Toro might have or some such; there's a much more interesting story there than the one they chose to tell.
 
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I saw a good youtube asking why so many movies are meh these days. It is posited, you have to have a great hook to get a studio to make your movie but there's no incentive to stick the landing.
I suspect TikTok and other social media are killing media, including films.

The problem all media have now is how to compete with short-form videos algorithmically designed to take all your attention at the expense of films, TV, computer games, work and socialising with your loved ones (never mind any other human beings). And social media is way ahead, maybe even unstoppably so.

People are too busy watching their phones to go to the cinema so there's no point making films for cinema. And when the audience are at home, they need to make the film undemanding enough so that someone who's splitting their attention between the film and their social media doesn't find the film too challenging, because they know that if the punters have to choose between social media or the film, it's social media.

And finally, social media has fucked everyone's attention span. There's no way the younger generations can manage 2-3 hours.
 
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I suspect TikTok and other social media are killing media, including films.

The problem all media have now is how to compete with short-form videos algorithmically designed to take all your attention at the expense of films, TV, computer games, work and socialising with your loved ones (never mind any other human beings). And social media is way ahead, maybe even unstoppably so.

People are too busy watching their phones to go to the cinema so there's no point making films for cinema. And when the audience are at home, they need to make the film undemanding enough so that someone who's splitting their attention between the film and their social media doesn't find the film too challenging, because they know that if the punters have to choose between social media or the film, it's social media.

And finally, social media has fucked everyone's attention span. There's no way the younger generations can manage 2-3 hours.
That last part, it’s been scientifically proven too.

 
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Ford v Ferrari: Still Fucking Great After My 20th Watch / Great

I don't know why I'm even bothering to mention watching this in here again; this will be like the 4th or 5th time I've posted about it, but every time I watch it, I feel the need to spread the news in case someone needs reminded. Every scene, beginning to end, has the potential to be someone's "favorite part" which is a testament to how good the whole movie actually is. Zero seconds wasted, and to manage THAT across almost 2.5 hours is a feat very few films can boast. If you haven't, PLEASE watch it so I can shut up about it.

Also, I'm not sure what the equivalent of a "waifu" is for general, live-action cinema, but after watching this film enough times, I have to admit, I'm in love with Caitríona Balfe who plays Molly Miles in this film. @Chimpzy, I imagine her name is pronounced "Laura Johnson" or some other Irish nonsensical use of the alphabet, but Molly is literally my dream girl: tough, loyal, romantic, protective, and she all-in for the racing; she's literally the perfect woman for me. You can have all the Bond girls in the world; could I but pluck Molly from the screen...
 

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One of, if not the, greatest adaptations of the story ever to be done, which says a lot about something.
 

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Wicked: For Good - 9/10

This is just pure peak entertainment (and I've never seen the play or read the book), it feels like every decision made during production was squarely based off whatever is the most entertaining whether it's the music or the comedy or even plot contrivances. It's not too far off of Metal Gear Solid in a sense when it would shoe-horn real world events into the story, but it was fine because it was just more fun that way, and that's essentially Wicked with regards to other Oz lore. The performances are also great, Cynthia Erivo is doing the heavy lifting in the singing/vocals department and Ariana Grande's physical comedy is legit really hilarious. I feel like Michelle Yeoh was miscast because she can't really sing, neither can Jeff Goldblum but he is Jeff fucking Goldblum and is like the perfect Wizard for Oz.

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The Roses - 7/10

Decently solid comedy, it's just fun to watch Benedict Cumberbatch and Olivia Colman bicker back and forth.

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Save the Last Dance - 5/10

Perfectly serviceable teenage/high school romance movie with dancing. I can see why Julia Stiles' "stardom" was short-lived, she really can't act. She has 2 big emotional scenes and she's laughably bad in both of them.

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Lincoln Lawyer - 7/10

I'm pretty sure this movie was trying to be more serious/dramatic than it is. However, the ridiculousness of Matthew McConaughey playing a lawyer being driven around in a Lincoln with NTGUILTY license plates making things right in the most Matthew McConaughey way possible is rather entertaining. The plot also agrees with this ridiculousness featuring some over-the-top twists and turns.

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How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days - 4/10

The setup is unique enough for a romantic comedy. Matthew McConaughey is bet get a chick to fall in love with him to so he could head up some diamond marketing ads and Kate Hudson is writing an article about how to lose a guy in 10 days so their goals are at odds with each other obviously. I didn't really care for the movie overall because most of the movie is both of them being disingeninuine with each other most of the movie and I really hate disingenuineness. Maybe if the movie was more over-the-top their relationship so it was completely unrealistic, then I could had more fun with it.

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Eden - 4/10

This is based off the true story of a handful of people living on the Galapagos Islands in the 1920s/1930s. It's directed by Ron Howard and has some star power in Jude Law, Ana de Armas, and Sydney Sweeney. I just found the movie overall pretty boring. I thought the conflicts among the 3 groups of people would slowly build up as the movie progressed and, I guess they do, but not nearly as much as I was hoping for at least. Some of the dialogue doesn't make sense for the era as one of the characters describes Ana's character like a black hole but that term wasn't around back then. The movie is just a dud.

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Survive Style 5+ - 9/10

A really great and rather unknown Japanese movie. It's a rather quirky and weird Japanese movie that somehow translates really well to the West I feel, it has a few songs in English and ends with Cake's cover of I Will Survive. The movie moves back and forth among 5 different stories; a husband killing his wife and her returning, 3 young theives, a marketing chick that makes "funny" commercials, a family where the father thinks he's a chicken, and hitman Vinnie Jones and a translator walking around asking people what their funciton is. The sets and design are really unique and colorful, the one house feels like the hotel from The Shining but more colorful. It's sad that there's no HD version of this movie, no blu-ray or HD stream and only a DVD release.

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No Other Choice - 6/10

New movie from Park Chan-wook that directed Oldboy and The Handmaiden. This movie just isn't as good as his more known movies. It has a similar style/structure of a character coming up with an extreme and convoluted plan to achieve his goals. The main character gets fired from a paper company and is looking to get a job at another paper company. The main character and a few other side characters are super fucking obsessed with only getting jobs at a paper company and literally won't take any other jobs, it's the weirdest raison d'etre. There is one really great scene in the movie that utilizes music in quite the hilarious fashion. Outside of that, the movie just feels like lesser verison of his other movies. Also, I feel like from watching enough Korean (and Japanese) movies that work is rather toxic as the main character has an issue with a tooth and another character comments that he better see a dentist while he's unemployeed because when he gets a new job he won't have time to get that checked out. You have to work so many hours during the week that you can't go to the dentist in Korea?

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Machete - 6/10

Danny Trejo stars as a ridiculous knife weilding action star in a very purposeful b-movie. The opening is really great with action and cheese but I feel the rest of the movie doesn't live up to that opening and is overall toned down from that, still fun and all. Even the big action scene at the end just doesn't feel as fun or over-the-top as it should be. Lastly, Jessica Alba is super hot in this.

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Planet Terror - 5/10

Kinda like Machete in that it's a purposeful b-movie and also should've been just more fun. The movie has quite a bit of time and scenes where just nothing really fun is happening.

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Desperado - 9/10

Just a classic, super fun action movie that has everything and more than you can hope for. Antonio Banderas is probably the best at shooting guns in a badass style that is also completely so fucking unrealistic and stupid but it somehow just fucking works. The opening scene of Steve Buscemi walking into a bar and telling that story in the most Steve Buscemi way is one of the best openings to a movie ever. Selma Hayek is of course super hot as the love interest. If there's any weakpoint in the movie is that the villain could've been better, he's just very generic overall and not very memorable.
 
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Johnny Novgorod

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Train Dreams

A very sad, mournful, meditative look at the life of an Idaho lumberjack, which feels equally tragic and unremarkable. Set in the early 20th. People compare it to a Terence Malick movie but it's nowhere near as pornographic or ethereal, and has the benefit of Will Patton soulfully narrating the actual source material, a novella by Denis Johnson.

Stars Joel Edgerton, whom I can never figure out, and Felicity Jones, who after this and The Brutalist should set up a shop called "Embattled Period Piece Wife". I've never watched Shameless so it was nice to see William H. Macy in a part again. I always believe that dude.
 
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Caught Stealing

Aaronofsky's most fun movie in years... is what I would say if I considered any of his movies "fun" (Noah?). Here he's doing a Guy Ritchie-esque riff but with a nastier streak, wherein Austin Butler (Sharpay's Faboulous Adventure) becomes the punching bag to a veritable cadre of quirky lowlifes. A cute cat is also heavily involved.
 
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Tron (1982): Cheesy / Great

My gf wants to watch Tron: Ares, and I had to confess, I'd never seen the original Tron, so we watched it last night. It was bad, but '80s bad, meaning it has some charm to be appreciated once you shrug off the fact this was clearly a labor of some people who had just gotten their hands on some fancy new CGI technology, and just wanted to showcase it. Dumb premise, CGI that [understandably] has aged like milk under a summer sun, but all that really served to make me curious what a modern spin on the idea might look like. I see Jared Leto is in to, so it really could go either way; I'll watch Ares with some hesitance.

But apparently, there's 2010's Tron: Legacy which was the direct sequel to the '82 movie we thought Ares was, and I don't think she's seen that, so maybe we'll watch that tonight to get caught up completely.

Oh, and after however long, I finally know the inspiration behind the depiction of Moses in a really old South Park episode. Don't recall which episode, but he's a dead ringer for the Master Control Program from the end of Tron.
 
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Tron (1982): Cheesy / Great

My gf wants to watch Tron: Ares, and I had to confess, I'd never seen the original Tron, so we watched it last night. It was bad, but '80s bad, meaning it has some charm to be appreciated once you shrug off the fact this was clearly a labor of some people who had just gotten their hands on some fancy new CGI technology, and just wanted to showcase it. Dumb premise, CGI that [understandably] has aged like milk under a summer sun, but all that really served to make me curious what a modern spin on the idea might look like. I see Jared Leto is in to, so it really could go either way; I'll watch Ares with some hesitance.

But apparently, there's 2010's Tron: Legacy which was the direct sequel to the '82 movie we thought Ares was, and I don't think she's seen that, so maybe we'll watch that tonight to get caught up completely.

Oh, and after however long, I finally know the inspiration behind the depiction of Moses in a really old South Park episode. Don't recall which episode, but he's a dead ringer for the Master Control Program from the end of Tron.
Of the 3 Tron movies, the OG took a concept and ran with it and it was revolutionary in its time. You made me laugh reminding me of South Park Moses!
Legacy is pretty good. Much more polished and up to today's visual standards. And I really like the leads Garrett Hedlund and Olivia Wilde and it ends (15 flippin years ago!) on a note that could have made for a decent sequel. A germ of that idea is taken for Ares but from what I hear, for so many reasons, I'll happily miss that one. (Instead of "Somehow, Palpatine has returned" we get, "Somehow, Sam Flynn is gone".)
I suspect TikTok and other social media are killing media, including films.

The problem all media have now is how to compete with short-form videos algorithmically designed to take all your attention at the expense of films, TV, computer games, work and socialising with your loved ones (never mind any other human beings). And social media is way ahead, maybe even unstoppably so.

People are too busy watching their phones to go to the cinema so there's no point making films for cinema. And when the audience are at home, they need to make the film undemanding enough so that someone who's splitting their attention between the film and their social media doesn't find the film too challenging, because they know that if the punters have to choose between social media or the film, it's social media.

And finally, social media has fucked everyone's attention span. There's no way the younger generations can manage 2-3 hours.
It's definitely having an impact. I'm personally somewhat addicted to scrolling. And its a thing to have a seat for 2-3 hours for a movie these days. It is fun that the boy is growing tired of today's movies (so many are washed out copies of copies) that even he is starting to look into older movies for something fresher, better written. Growing up, he didn't think they made any good ones before he was born. Then he saw T2 and said, "that could have been made nowadays!" I have to get him to see Cameron's "Aliens" next.
 
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