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tofulove

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im going to play some dnd, my barbarian has a intelligence of 2, -4 mod. his skill mod is (4+int)x4 at level 1 than 4+int per level, does that mean i get 0 skill points for the hole game o_O
 

Illesdan

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This is why I only play 2nd edition D&D.

I tried the other versions that came out and always felt like a tax preparer instead of a role-player.

You need to specify which edition you are playing before I would feel comfortable saying any more.
 

WolfThomas

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To be fair, I'm no D&D expert but wouldn't that make you around an animal's level of intelligence?
 

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I think that its a 1 per level minimum with skill points.

4 intelligence is barely sentient.
1 or 2 is animal intelligence.
3 is lowest form of sentient intelligence.
 

thedoclc

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Mortai and Stagnant are both correct. Additionally, at 2 Int, your character would qualify for animal intelligence and would not be able to speak.

Were I GMing that particular game, I'd insist on a new character. If the GM forced rolled characters and I got that, I'd reroll immediately without asking. The character is basically unplayable.

Edit: His post mentions SP. Earlier had NWPs as an optional rule, and 4th has trained/not in skills, so he's playing 3.5 (4 SP for a barbarian, x4 1st level - 3.0 had 2 (I believe) and PF doesn't do the x4 bit, but uses other bonuses).
 

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Yeah, it should be noted that 3 is the minimum intelligence for a sentient creature. Also it's at least part of the 3.5 D&D rules (which are the only ones I know) that you get a minimum of one skill point per level. So you would get four skill points for creating your character at 1st level and then one point every level after.

Still, I recommend you reroll or rebuild your character using whatever method is available since a 2 intelligence character would literally be unable to operate in an adventuring party... Unless he was the team pet, I suppose.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
*SNIP*

Still, I recommend you reroll or rebuild your character using whatever method is available since a 2 intelligence character would literally be unable to operate in an adventuring party... Unless he was the team pet, I suppose.
That could actually be pretty damn hilarious in a silly game with a good, experienced group of players. In the hands of novices it would be a disaster. Played straight, where the character is actually severely mentally retarded (using it as a medical term - IQ ~40), and it just might be suitable for the World of Darkness, Call of Cthulhu, or Unknown Armies.

Though it would be a very hard role to play. That character would be virtually helpless.
 

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Oh, I wouldn't worry about it. If you've got a truly stupid barbarian, run with it. make 'im funny as hell and ramp up his smarts when it's time for the XP.
 

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DnD is not like Fallout 3 (at least not the fourth addition) intelligence does not determine "skill points"
Intelligence only determines certain skills, and certain power mods.
As a barbarian, intelligence is pretty unimportant.
 

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thedoclc said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
*SNIP*

Still, I recommend you reroll or rebuild your character using whatever method is available since a 2 intelligence character would literally be unable to operate in an adventuring party... Unless he was the team pet, I suppose.
That could actually be pretty damn hilarious in a silly game with a good, experienced group of players. In the hands of novices it would be a disaster. Played straight, where the character is actually severely mentally retarded (using it as a medical term - IQ ~40), and it just might be suitable for the World of Darkness, Call of Cthulhu, or Unknown Armies.

Though it would be a very hard role to play. That character would be virtually helpless.
helpless in every thing but hitting things with his axe! for he has retard strength.
 

tofulove

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his stats are as fallowed,
str 20

dex 16

con 18

int 2

wis 3

cha 14

were limiting him to 1 to 2 word statements only. he is unable to use money, or to know the value of money. basically im playing him as a barely functional retard who happens to be very good at hitting things with his axe. and yes i could of given him the 14 intell, but than he would of bin ugly, and i cant have that now can i.
 

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You're doing it wrong man! Charisma is your dump stat!
 

Revnak_v1legacy

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As others have already said, you cannot have that low of intelligence. More importantly, are you using point-buy? Because I'm pretty certain that collection of rolls you just showed is nigh on statistically impossible if you are doing 4d6 drop one, which I believe is the advised roll for DnD. If you are doing point-buy, I'm pretty certain you aren't supposed to go that far into the negatives. You may as well have dropped the charisma a couple points to make your int and wis at least 6.

In short, you are doing it so very, very wrong.
 

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tofulove said:
im going to play some dnd, my barbarian has a intelligence of 2, -4 mod. his skill mod is (4+int)x4 at level 1 than 4+int per level, does that mean i get 0 skill points for the hole game o_O
You shouldnt get lower than the base math I believe. So, you would get 4, then 1 per level, regardless of intellect... And seriously, your character may be unplayable with that intelligence.
 

tofulove

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Revnak said:
As others have already said, you cannot have that low of intelligence. More importantly, are you using point-buy? Because I'm pretty certain that collection of rolls you just showed is nigh on statistically impossible if you are doing 4d6 drop one, which I believe is the advised roll for DnD. If you are doing point-buy, I'm pretty certain you aren't supposed to go that far into the negatives. You may as well have dropped the charisma a couple points to make your int and wis at least 6.

In short, you are doing it so very, very wrong.
we did dice roles ;p, and im doing it wrong on purpose, i was just wondering if i get no skill points or if there was a minimal amount. i did not notice the skill points issue in tell i decided on my stats, i was like, oh shit lol. if it was 0 points i was just going to role with it and be like w/e im to dumb to learn.

and we used d20. cause that's how we roll. and i could get 2 with a 4d6, its called rolling 4 1 and taking away 2 cause im a half orc.
 

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tofulove said:
How did you roll that? One of your rolls (the three) is the most unlikely roll in DnD (literally one in over a thousand). And then you still got two 18's two 16's and a 4. Each of those is still extremely unlikely. I am totally calling BS on your rolls. This is literally a one in a million set of rolls unless you are just doing straight 3d6, in which case your DM is probably has a hard-on for total party wipe-outs, wishes you were playing an earlier edition, or both and you should run away while you can in any of those cases.

Edit- Never mind you editted like fucking crazy while I was writing my reply. I guess that what you have is still possible using your strange system then, but you should try to get the DM to switch to the advised system of rolling because you'll wind up with much more playable characters. Also, while that set of rolls is possible with 4d6 drop one, it is so statistically unlikely that any DM who saw it would assume you fudged the rolls even if you kept the low ones. It is horrifyingly unlikely. Like, twice as likely as being stuck by lightning under clear skies unlikely.
 

tofulove

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and im keeping that 2, if im to dumb to be functional, ill be one of there pets! if you can have a slightly retarded pet dog, you can have a very retarded pet half orc barbarian.
 

tofulove

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Revnak said:
tofulove said:
How did you roll that? One of your rolls (the three) is the most unlikely roll in DnD (literally one in over a thousand). And then you still got two 18's two 16's and a 4. Each of those is still extremely unlikely. I am totally calling BS on your rolls. This is literally a one in a million set of rolls unless you are just doing straight 3d6, in which case your DM is probably has a hard-on for total party wipe-outs, wishes you were playing an earlier edition, or both and you should run away while you can in any of those cases.
we did d20 rolls as in 1-20. a 4 is just as likely as natural 20. (we do have a policy if you have complete shit rolls you can reroll once)

your also making the assumption that were going to be playing a super serious game.