Do animals have souls?

Wyatt

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my opinion....

i think they do. not like Human souls but still there anyhow. i dont see this as a complicated issue since i view our souls as more or less the 'software' that makes us US. humans have a different and more complex OS (say Vista) while animals use the old punch cards system.

animals obviously arent of the same level of complexity as humans are i dont see why we should wonder if their SOULS are or not. is it even importiant? even if they DONT have souls im certian God would Give them one if only as a reward for US in heaven. grandmother wont be missing her cat spot in heaven since God can simply give spot back too her in such a way that she would never know the differnece soul or not, and something that makes no difference IS no difference.

as too the animals dont love line of thought, thats clearly a crock of shit and any teacher that states this as a bald fact and actualy intened anyone to belive it should be fired. of corse animals love, i see it every day with my own two cats (well my grandmothers cats , more in a second), i see it with my mother and an aunt and their dogs. ive especialy seen it with my grandmother and her two cats when we put her in a nursing home just last month. the cats have all but stoped eating and pace the house all the time, looking for her. they spend all their time napping either in her chair or her bed, something they seldom did before.

Sure it might just be wishful thinking but i dont think so. i KNOW animals and cat especialy. I've never NOT had atleast one cat in my entire life and i can say with some clame to being an 'expert' on the subject that those cats miss her. It MIGHT be because they miss the attention and the food except I have them now and I give them much more attention than she ever did, as well as regular feedings (she would often forget too feed them due to her extream age) and even some treats when i can coax them into actualy caring about them anyhow.

i suppose an argument can still be made that these are all still just learned responces and the cats dont REALLY love her, but if i could get that kind of a learned responce out of a fellow human id count myself lucky indeed. if its not love, it will do untill the real thing shows up.
 

Doug

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spuddyt said:
DannyBoy451 said:
Well, considering HUMANS don't have souls I'd say it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that animals do.
Tibbles the rabbit is actually the great overlord, the inheritor of all
All hail Tibbles and offer him carrot-sacrifices so he may dane to bestow mercy on your wetched human soul ;)
 

Deadman Walkin

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Ugh, not this. Seriously come on, we are just an advanced species from the swarm of other ones who developed better because of thumbs and working together. You could very well say that because a piece of paper is bigger than another piece of paper instantly gives it superiority to the smaller one. That the small paper is useless and has no use.
 

spuddyt

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Doug said:
spuddyt said:
DannyBoy451 said:
Well, considering HUMANS don't have souls I'd say it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that animals do.
Tibbles the rabbit is actually the great overlord, the inheritor of all
All hail Tibbles and offer him carrot-sacrifices so he may dane to bestow mercy on your wetched human soul ;)
no, we don't even HAVE souls...
 

cuddly_tomato

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Ragdrazi said:
cuddly_tomato said:
Ragdrazi said:
What is a soul supposed to be, anyway? You know I've never gotten a straight answer to that question. Every time I hear someone use the word "soul" it always seems like it would be better replaced with either the words "emotion" or "magic."
Because, much like religion, the soul is an philosophical concept. The soul to one might be something different to someone else.
No. It is because, much like religion, the soul is a mythical concept. Philosophical concepts require provable arguments. There is none here.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philosophy?qsrc=2888

2. any of the three branches, namely natural philosophy, moral philosophy, and metaphysical philosophy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics], that are accepted as composing this study.

Such things are not subject to proof.

Ragdrazi said:
You haven't begun to go into any depth.
Ok.
 

I3uster

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"Soul" is such an abstract word for mind...

And animals have minds, or they would be plants.
 

Scary_Bob

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Either all animals, including ourselves, do, or we all don't. To think otherwise seems very arrogant to me.
 

Archaon6044

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define soul. if you mean that which gives us Sapience, then no, they don't by virtue of not being self aware to the same degree that we are, or having an intelligence like ours
 

Doug

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spuddyt said:
Doug said:
spuddyt said:
DannyBoy451 said:
Well, considering HUMANS don't have souls I'd say it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that animals do.
Tibbles the rabbit is actually the great overlord, the inheritor of all
All hail Tibbles and offer him carrot-sacrifices so he may dane to bestow mercy on your wetched human soul ;)
no, we don't even HAVE souls...
Bah, Tibbles will nibble your arm off for that blasphemy!

How else can the High-Lord-Rabbit Tibbles tortment and torture humans for all eternity without a soul?

;)
 

cuddly_tomato

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Ragdrazi said:
cuddly_tomato said:
Ragdrazi said:
cuddly_tomato said:
Ragdrazi said:
What is a soul supposed to be, anyway? You know I've never gotten a straight answer to that question. Every time I hear someone use the word "soul" it always seems like it would be better replaced with either the words "emotion" or "magic."
Because, much like religion, the soul is an philosophical concept. The soul to one might be something different to someone else.
No. It is because, much like religion, the soul is a mythical concept. Philosophical concepts require provable arguments. There is none here.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philosophy?qsrc=2888

2. any of the three branches, namely natural philosophy, moral philosophy, and metaphysical philosophy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics], that are accepted as composing this study.

Such things are not subject to proof.

Ragdrazi said:
You haven't begun to go into any depth.
Ok.
First and foremost Cuddles, people get their PhD's in Philosophy by writing entire papers in an attempt to answer the question "What is philosophy?" And here you go relying on an internet dictionary. Such things are absolutely subject to proof. You need to make a valid argument that takes into account all possible challenges before you can even consider putting forward a philosophical concept. Philosophy is "theoretical." You must put forward a theory.

You show a massive misunderstanding of the concept of metaphysical philosophy that even reading the wiki article will show you is false.
1. If I wish to demonstrate the meaning of a word in the English language then a dictionary is where I go.

2. Metaphysics is not subject to proof. Nor is morality.

3. I don't need to put forward a theory about why the meaning of the word "philosophy" in the instance of metaphysics or morals doesn't require or indeed cannot require "proof".
 

inkheart_artist

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I think all life would have the same spiritual endowments if they have any at all. Its why I like the idea of Buddhism.

Limasol said:
Do soles have souls
I'd sell my sole for all the money in the world.