Do (EDIT: Internet) advertisements work?

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Aris Khandr

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I've either purchased, or forwarded links to friends who then purchased, several t-shirts that I discovered through banner ads. I've found new webcomics through ads on other comics. I get ads for Disney World vacations every spring, and ended up booking on via their deal a few years ago. So yeah, they do work sometimes.
 

Mid Boss

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Sleekit said:
hell, over 80% of people will even "blindly" follow an instruction to kill someone in the right circumstances.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment )
Only if they view the person giving the instruction as a person of authority. We are pack animals so there is that ingrained compulsion to follow authority. The Milgram Experiment would only apply if we saw commercials as authoritative figures. If we do, that would be interesting. Let me know what your thoughts on this are.

I, personally, don't view them as authority. I view them as more of a waste of money than anything because that product is going to be more expensive now than its competitors because the cost of that advertising is now added to the product cost. A Ritz cracker commercial can effectively wet my appetite for a Ritz cracker but what I actually buy is the generic version sitting next to it on the shelf that costs a dollar less. :\

I own a small home business. Home made crafts, buttons, hats etc. I've tried advertising and found I can easily spend more on advertising in a month than I make off of sales. I went into it thinking more advertising means more sales. That was not the case at all. I could have 500 hundred people visit my shop in a day because of my ads and not make a single sale.

What IS effective is word of mouth. Someone mentioning something I make on a forum nets me far more sales than the 30 dollars I spent on ads. Particularly in geek circles.

Here we go back to the Milgram Experiment and the compulsion to follow an authoritative figure. But this person posting on the forum isn't viewed as an authoritative figure. Why would them talking about it sway people? Ah, but they DO have authority.

Hang in there, this gets a bit complicated.

People who embrace a fandom gain something called Cultural Capital in that fandom. You gain this by proving you are as much of a fan or more as everyone else through the things you say, the style you wear, and the things you own. Someone who claims to be in the fandom, but has no cultural capital, are deemed as fake or mocking. This is why people hate hipsters, wannabes, and the "fake fan girls". They claim to be part of a fandom with no cultural capital and we instinctively react negatively to that.

Cultural Capital gives you status among that fandom and status is closely linked to authority. This is why one rabid fan of a tv show mentioning on a forum my button with a quote from that show can get me far more sales than fifty dollars spent on web page advertisements.

This form of advertisement isn't something you can buy though. If the person mentioning it is caught in some way getting something OUT of mentioning it they lose cultural capital and the status that came with it. We call this Selling Out.

So, while my ads do not get me any sales directly, they do get people talking about the things I make. One person with cultural capital mentioning something I make makes the money I spent on the advertising worth it. But it is a hit or miss thing. Luck. I could spend a lot of money on ads and not get one of those influential fans to say anything or it could happen repeatedly.

Celebrities have cultural capital. That's why you often see them in commercials but often when their careers are on the down slope because they're trading in their cultural capital for money. If Nathan Fillion suddenly couldn't get work anywhere he could use his cultural capital to plug Xbox 720. He'd make a lot of money, but he'd be labeled a sell out and lose a lot of cultural capital.
 

T3hSource

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They barely work on me,because my region hasn't been researched well by marketers so they don't know what to advertise to us,"prize",betting advertisements are mostly what I get,but even if they're not scams I don't believe "free" money exists.There are also the MMO game advertisements,but I'm not looking for an MMO,LoL is enough of a "MMO" game for me.
Yes,Bulgaria is the poorest country in the entire European Union,so are the rest of the Balkans,even Greece has a serious economic crisis.However we are only poor compared to the others,but most people take care of themselves easily,because our markets are the cheapest in entire EU too so it balances out.But advertisements outside of Bulgarian can barely attract my attention,that is if I get any in the first place,I don't have adblock,but I barely get one ad on the Escapist and YouTube.
 

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Mid Boss said:
Sleekit said:
hell, over 80% of people will even "blindly" follow an instruction to kill someone in the right circumstances.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment )
Only if they view the person giving the instruction as a person of authority. We are pack animals so there is that ingrained compulsion to follow authority. The Milgram Experiment would only apply if we saw commercials as authoritative figures. If we do, that would be interesting. Let me know what your thoughts on this are.

I, personally, don't view them as authority. I view them as more of a waste of money than anything because that product is going to be more expensive now than its competitors because the cost of that advertising is now added to the product cost. A Ritz cracker commercial can effectively wet my appetite for a Ritz cracker but what I actually buy is the generic version sitting next to it on the shelf that costs a dollar less. :\

I own a small home business. Home made crafts, buttons, hats etc. I've tried advertising and found I can easily spend more on advertising in a month than I make off of sales. I went into it thinking more advertising means more sales. That was not the case at all. I could have 500 hundred people visit my shop in a day because of my ads and not make a single sale.

What IS effective is word of mouth. Someone mentioning something I make on a forum nets me far more sales than the 30 dollars I spent on ads. Particularly in geek circles.

Here we go back to the Milgram Experiment and the compulsion to follow an authoritative figure. But this person posting on the forum isn't viewed as an authoritative figure. Why would them talking about it sway people? Ah, but they DO have authority.

Hang in there, this gets a bit complicated.

People who embrace a fandom gain something called Cultural Capital in that fandom. You gain this by proving you are as much of a fan or more as everyone else through the things you say, the style you wear, and the things you own. Someone who claims to be in the fandom, but has no cultural capital, are deemed as fake or mocking. This is why people hate hipsters, wannabes, and the "fake fan girls". They claim to be part of a fandom with no cultural capital and we instinctively react negatively to that.

Cultural Capital gives you status among that fandom and status is closely linked to authority. This is why one rabid fan of a tv show mentioning on a forum my button with a quote from that show can get me far more sales than fifty dollars spent on web page advertisements.

This form of advertisement isn't something you can buy though. If the person mentioning it is caught in some way getting something OUT of mentioning it they lose cultural capital and the status that came with it. We call this Selling Out.

So, while my ads do not get me any sales directly, they do get people talking about the things I make. One person with cultural capital mentioning something I make makes the money I spent on the advertising worth it. But it is a hit or miss thing. Luck. I could spend a lot of money on ads and not get one of those influential fans to say anything or it could happen repeatedly.

Celebrities have cultural capital. That's why you often see them in commercials but often when their careers are on the down slope because they're trading in their cultural capital for money. If Nathan Fillion suddenly couldn't get work anywhere he could use his cultural capital to plug Xbox 720. He'd make a lot of money, but he'd be labeled a sell out and lose a lot of cultural capital.
Very interesting post. You make a really good point about the whole cultural capital thing. I think Yahtzee is a good example of this. Every time his reviews came out you used to get masses of people going "he thought it was bad? well now i'm definitely not buying it".. or when he does a really positive review like Painkiller, he single handedly increased sales by hundreds of %

When i'm saying i don't think advertising works, i'm talking about traditional adverts. Word of mouth is pretty much the only thing i think that works.

Happiness Assassin said:
Adblock will change your life. Haven't seen an internet ad in almost a year.
I'd be careful about mentioning adblock here.. pretty sure it's against the rules.
What I will say is, I don't mind having these harmless ads in the background if it means The Escapist can keep putting out good content.
 

MeChaNiZ3D

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No, because Adblock.

jk, no, because they piss me off more often than actually get me to consider their product, and in most cases, the shittiness of the ad does the product no favours.
 

CrimsonBlaze

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Personally, I just find them annoying. Every time I see an annoying 30+ second commercial, I just mute it and wait for it to go away. If I wanted to see commercials, I'd turn on a TV.

I discover a lot of interests, likes, and hobbies from watching videos on Youtube and forums like the ones on the Escapist. That's how I typically learn about new music, movies, shows, video games, books, etc. and I tend to just research the rest.
 

Angie7F

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yes. I think the content of the ad and how people receive it is totally different from how much exposure something gets.
If you mean advertisement as is exposure, then sure, advertisement is very effective.
 

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ohnoitsabear said:
1. Ads don't usually make you want to run out and immediately buy a product. They work in much more subtle ways (such as giving brand recognition).

2. If ads didn't work, companies wouldn't spend millions of dollars on them. Businesses, believe it or not, really aren't that stupid.
I'm guessing you watch a Dose of Buckley too then?

This may have been mentioned, but most internet ads are given to you because when you visit a website the website remembers what you were viewing and sends you adverts on it. So if you look at loads of Arnold Schwarzenegger films on Amazon or something, you'll get loads of Ahnie adverts on the internet. Therefore I feel that internet ads don't really work, as chances are if I see an advert it's because I already have the required interest in that product, and the advert is failing to affect anything.
Take a hint amazon, stop emailing me suggesting I buy AC2. I bought it long ago.