Do you fear death?

[Maximum_Power_Cheese_Supreme]

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Rationality requires a degree of thought and reasoning, that most people about to kill themselves for any reason not as such(rational), are generally less than capable of true impartial reasoning. Most people will consider most of their decisions "rational" even though most of those decisions are driven by heavily emotionally biased thoughts, and are generally highly situational in context.
Since situation is, unless it's fatal or eternal somehow, passing, fleeting really in the long run.
So yes, I can ask, but no I do not expect an accurate answer, at least not from anyone currently contemplating suicide...

I know how it can be, I've more than slightly mulled over the possibility of ending my own life, but I then removed myself from the situation emotionally and had a good long look at things, and decided to postpone the decision for an indefinite period of time, and focus on a complete overhaul of my worldview and my own lifestyle... I discovered many of the reasons and roots to those emotions and pulled them out of the garden that is my emotional strata, in other words, I was right fucked up, then I un-fucked myself so I'm all healthy now, not normal perhaps, but then again, what is normal?

Also, it's nice to have someone reply to my conversationally starting quotations, I do so enjoy conversations, especially with people who answer with more than a couple words.

I believe that when I die the experience will answer some of my questions... and then "Something!" or "Nothing!" will happen...

Thanks. I still need to work on keeping my posts shorter.

I like to think death could be like Enter The Void, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1191111/ saw it at the Adelaide Film Festival, both showings.

 

[Smurf McSmurfington]

Yes, yes I do. Very much so in fact.
Completely ceasing to exist in any shape or form is a scary thought... and I can see why those less... uh... intelligent... cling to religion as a way of coping with the thought, among other silly things, but thing is... once we're dead, that's it. And there's no way around that.
Curse sapience.
I'd like to live for as long as I want to, which is to say I wish I was biologically immortal, after a few millenia perhaps I'd be able to cope with death well enough to actually consider it an option.

 

[DoomyMcDoom]

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Thanks. I still need to work on keeping my posts shorter.

I like to think death could be like Enter The Void, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1191111/ saw it at the Adelaide Film Festival, both showings.

Just keep in mind, posting shorter isn't always a good thing, if the words need to come out, let them out.
Some posts are just longer than others.

Hmm, never seen it, but it looks intriguing, I believe it is on my must watch list for now, will watch it later.

Death could indeed be an interesting experience, there are more than a few theories, but the real exciting bit is that it's a one way ticket to the answer, with nobody to tell you what to expect... So it both engenders a fear response(natural human reaction to the unknown is generally fear) and a level of curiosity(though most people will generally dismiss you as unnaturally morbidly focused or suicidal if you reveal your curiosity), as such it becomes something we kinda wanna figure out, but aren't in any particular hurry to experience...

anyhow I'm gonna try and get a few hours of shuteye as it is currently 5am where I am... I will however reply to any messages or responses later, when I wake up.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

The fact that I love to sleep pretty much makes any fear of death from my part very redundant. Death is just an eternal sleep after all, an eternal sleep without dreams.

I do not desire death however, since it's inevitable, why rush it? We shall all die one day, unless some genious comes up with a way to fix that genetic inconvenice of ours.

genetic inconvenience?

try universal inconvenience, everything dies at some point, if someone were to somehow manipulate science into "fixing" that, they would be a god among women/men.

Yes... and that's bad how? Just don't give me that crap about "morality" and "playing god". Humans can be whatever they desire, why not be "gods"?

That is correct that every living organism dies at some point or other, but the lifespans of all species differ in lenght. Quahogs can supposedely grow to be over 400 years old. Radiated Tortoise can live for over 250 years. Bowhead Whales can live for up to 200 years. It means that in the very least we can significantly prolongue our own lifespans, were we able to splice ourselves with those species. Immortality would be the next step, off course.

did i say that was bad? are you looking to argue with no one for no reason?

i was just saying that if we got to that point in technology, we could solve alot more problems than simply making ourselves live longer.

 

[Sunrider]

I don't fear death; I fear dying. It sounds painful.
[sub]As in, I don't fear what comes after I die. I fear the process.[/sub]

I'm the complete opposite of this. I'm sure I'll either die old or on my motorcycle. Either way, it will probably be pretty painless. (Yes, I plan on dying FAST if I crash my bike! What else?)
What happens after that is what I fear. I don't believe in heaven or hell, and I don't believe in a soul that carries on (even if it would be pretty damn sweet), but I don't really believe in "absolute emptiness" or something along those lines. I don't really know what to believe.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Death I have only a minor problem with. It's the possibility of ceasing to exist that scares me. But I'm also curious.

I'm just very good with coming to terms with what I can't change.

You are not going to vanish into thin air, but what will happen might make you wish you had depending on what you do.

You got any evidence for that?

 

[Maximum_Power_Cheese_Supreme]

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Death could indeed be an interesting experience, there are more than a few theories, but the real exciting bit is that it's a one way ticket to the answer, with nobody to tell you what to expect... So it both engenders a fear response(natural human reaction to the unknown is generally fear) and a level of curiosity(though most people will generally dismiss you as unnaturally morbidly focused or suicidal if you reveal your curiosity), as such it becomes something we kinda wanna figure out, but aren't in any particular hurry to experience...

Curiosity didn't kill the cat, the cat killed itself in curiosity.

I think that we're naturally wired to be interested in anything that could give us some sort of insight into how to survive death, or survive after death, or survive through death or what to expect. From religious beliefs to psychological theories. So on.

Dreams are rather messed up by the way. If you could actually remember some of the stuff floating around in your dreams that you weren't actually looking at at the time then you would probably start going to church. A lot of scary looking stuff that is built from all sorts of Freudian and infancy stuff. Deformed figures, warped perspectives, impossible to explain like a colour that can't be seen by the human eye can not be explained (or colour in general for that matter). No reason to think you need a psychologist, it's normal it's why whenever we do see them in our dreams it's called a nightmare, and when we see them in our waking it's called hallucinations or delusions.

I've my own experiences, maybe you do too, I wrote some more after that previous paragraph but I liked it to much to let it loose yet. Besides, peoples dreams never are good story material as they differ from person to person, and it depends whether that Author has similar nightmares to you, or that Director had a similar psychological upbringing to you and the same problems you did and therefore was interested in particular stories that you are interested in too. Hey, they're the kind that have made success, and drawn movies together from their nightmares, maybe there's something useful for me there.

And I realise I have traversed of topic from Death to Nightmares and Dreams, so in off topic fashion I will sign off, as the Tralfamadorians do (did and are always doing): "So it goes."

EDIT: That didn't seem that long when I was writing it.

 

[Maximum_Power_Cheese_Supreme]

I mentally heard that in the voice of Davey Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean.

But anyway... I'm not sure if I exactly fear it. I know I really really don't want to die, but becoming dead itself doesn't seem so frightening. Now a painful death, I'd say I fear that. But for death itself, I won't suffer anymore past my death so that isn't something to worry about. Of course I don't want to cease to exist so I don't really want to die at all. Some people might see the lack of suffering or caring afterwards as reasons not to care, but until I am dead I'm going to care because I want to keep on living. Kinda like prior to being brainwashed I'd really care, but afterwards I probably won't be in a state to care...

"Do you fear death? Do you fear that dark abyss? All your deeds laid bare, all your sins punished? I can offer you... an escape."

Way ahead of you.

 

[go-10]

death for myself I could care less when it comes let it come nothing you can do about it

but the death of family and friends that's something I don't like to experience so I always worry when somebody I know gets deployed, I know in our line of work its a common occurrence but its hard to get used to

 

[Alcamonic]

This damned world is getting reset every big bang anyway. The black holes up in the sky, in due time they will suck up all shining matter in the universe, then eachother, compressing everything into a very very small space, and then the universal DNA code goes boom. Springing forth the universe again, and again, and again.
I doubt fear will stop me, but for the sake of living and progressing this stupid monkey-hybrid of a race further, I will try to avoid death. I have yet to fly a jetpack, damn you!

 

[Brightzide]

Fearing death benefits you none. Aknowledging death, coming to terms with it, and coming to the realisation that it is in your best interest to live your given life to the fullest...Benefits you quite a hefty bundle. Sure, the end may be painful, it may be sudden and unwanted...But whatever. Pain is temporary, and Punctuality is always looked upon favourably. The way I see it, it's a debt we all have to pay, you can pay it at any time between birth and about 110 years. But until you have paid it off, you owe yourself as much fun and enrichment as you can fit in before your due date.

 

[Nightmare-Child]

No I do not.

 

[wax88]

nope, my life philosphy on death is, when it's ur time to go, it's ur time to go. take life as it is, and live without regrets.

 

[CrawlingPastaHellion]

did i say that was bad? are you looking to argue with no one for no reason?

i was just saying that if we got to that point in technology, we could solve alot more problems than simply making ourselves live longer.

Excuse me for being paranoid, I often am. I'd have to say though that death is probably our most grave problem next to pollution. Imagine if Eintein were immortal... or Mozart... or Shakespeare?

 

[MetalMonkey74]

I dont really think i'm worried about death itself, its more about how it will happen.

If i'm hit by a crash landing aircraft and instantly toasted to a crisp, fine. But if i was in an earthquake and got stuck under tonnes of rubble with just enough room to breath, and itch on my nose, and all my limbs crushed by the debris... that is nasty

so Death itself, f*^k it, its bound to happen someday. Its the "how" that crossed my mind. I also ride fast motorbikes - safely - but still, i kinda push the envelope.

 

[DeadXV]

I dont fear death, more the manner in witch ill die. For instance im afraid ill get viciously torn apart by some thing (machine or animal) or killed in an accident or shot or stabbed or just of old age. I guess the uncertainty of my death is what gets me.

(Son of a *****, ninja'd by the guy above me)

 

[Jandau]

I belive the question should be "Do you fear there is nothing after death?" since if we knew for a fact there was an afterlife, a lot of the fear would be gone.

Yes, but I fear eternity/infinity even more.

I can kinda sorta wrap my head around the concept of not existing, of the universe moving on without me. I'm not happy about it, but I can come close to grasping it. It's hard since me existing is the basis for all I know and understand.

But eternity/infinity is something I can't comprehend, and whenever I try, it scares the bejesus out of me. Because if existance/soul/whatever is infinite, then isn't it kinda pointless? And if it's not infinite, isn't it simply death, only later?

Finally, regardless of wether you have or don't have an immortal soul that goes on, when you die you are gone. At least, the person you will be at that time. At least some of what you are is determined by your body, by its chemical processes. Even if your soul moves on, that part of you will be gone and you will become someone/something different. That also gives me the creeps, knowing that even if my soul gets to exist forever, I'm gone. On the bright side, I'll be gone in a decade or two, as my personality changes. So that's kinda comforting...

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

did i say that was bad? are you looking to argue with no one for no reason?

i was just saying that if we got to that point in technology, we could solve alot more problems than simply making ourselves live longer.

Excuse me for being paranoid, I often am. I'd have to say though that death is probably our most grave problem next to pollution. Imagine if Eintein were immortal... or Mozart... or Shakespeare?

our most grave problem?

was that pun intended or just coincidence...

and i would say next to pollution,overcrowding,food control, and every other thing in the galaxy that is trying to kill us on a molecular level (diseases), and id rather make human beings better/more efficient before we extend our time on earth, whats the point of living for 200-400 years if your still the same fat waste of space that you've always been? (not at you directly, just saying alot of people that don't do anything.)

 

[Treaos Serrare]

I'm not scared of dying so much as the manner of my death. I can envision many horribly painful and long in the taking types of deaths and that's not even counting the weird shit, that's just everyday accidents that could possibly happen in a given area.

 

[CrawlingPastaHellion]

our most grave problem?

was that pun intended or just coincidence...

and i would say next to pollution,overcrowding,food control, and every other thing in the galaxy that is trying to kill us on a molecular level (diseases), and id rather make human beings better/more efficient before we extend our time on earth, whats the point of living for 200-400 years if your still the same fat waste of space that you've always been? (not at you directly, just saying alot of people that don't do anything.)

Yeah, I totally forgot overcrowding. But that's not really a problem and neither is pollution to that matter. Those things are man-made. Death, on the other hand, is not. Neither is disease.

All it takes for overcrowding to become a non-issue is a lot of education and birth control. To take care of pollution we just need to be wary of our environment and manage our resources correctly, minimizing waste in the process. So, all in all, these particular issues can be brought down by what is known as "common sense".

P.S.: and a pun was part of the plan. ^_^