Do you hunt?

[Mr.Pandah]

If so, why do you? And if you don't....why not?

I haven't been hunting in over 6 years now, but when I went out turkey hunting for the first time, well, I must be a lucky rabbit foot, because I got my first turkey that same weekend.

Does anyone on here feel that it is against their values to go hunting? Is it cruel to these animals? Or do you get a thrill from it?

We didn't waste the animal by the way. We ate from it what we could, and I have the feathers and the turkey's beard mounted on my wall. I can't really say I cared for the animal, since well, it was a turkey. They're retarded. But I'm not sure if I could shoot little ol'e Bambi.

 

[SharPhoe]

I don't hunt, as it's against my morals. I could never bring myself to intentionally kill another creature.

Plus, I'd probably be a shit shot.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

I'm both for and against hunting. The type you describe, where you stalk an animal, kill it and then eat it, I don't really have a problem with, although I doubt I'd actually do it myself. On the other hand, fox hunting, where a terrified fox is chased down by people on horseback and a pack of dogs, and trophy hunting, where the only reason for killing the animal is to show that you did, I'm much less keen on.

 

[BadGadgit]

yes, pigs mostly. nasty buggers

though i have been on a few roo culls

 

[Motti]

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Over here, deer, rabbits, turkeys etc are pests. They have a funny habit of killing native wildlife. We've got volunteer hunting clubs that hunt in the state forests (but not the national parks, 'cause the hippies would protest). There also aren't that many of them, since gun laws are a bit tougher here. I don't hunt myself, I just never got around to doing it and wouldn't know how.

 

[Roamin11]

I do hunt, both fowl, and moose, I don't see how it?s cruel, its either me to get them or wolves and wolves are mean killers...

 

[tenlong]

yes i hunt. i killed a bear with my bare hands.

 

[Summerstorm]

Nope... permits would be too expensive. No hunting grounds available. And i am not the type for it. I don't even have a fishing license. (Ah well ok, i was going fishing with my dad like... ten years ago)

Of course i have no problem with hunters, as long as they use the meat, skins and such. But i have a disdain for "cheaters". You know: shotguns, ganging up with dogs and dozens of guys against a fox... it's just unneccessary cruel in my opinion.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

"Hunting" By the definition of hunting, I hunt ducks and geese for food. I'm going to try dove hunting later this year. By "killing other animals for any reason", add squirrels to the list because they are annoying pests. Now, I don't try to wound any animal, I try and kill it with the first shot to be as painless as possible.

Nope... permits would be too expensive. No hunting grounds available. And i am not the type for it. I don't even have a fishing license. (Ah well ok, i was going fishing with my dad like... ten years ago)

Of course i have no problem with hunters, as long as they use the meat, skins and such. But i have a disdain for "cheaters". You know: shotguns, ganging up with dogs and dozens of guys against a fox... it's just unneccessary cruel in my opinion.

Shotguns are not cheating, sure you have area of effect, but the shot is very weak by comparison to a slug or rifle bullet. A goose is near bullet proof to steel shot past about 20 yards.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

I don't hunt, as it's against my morals. I could never bring myself to intentionally kill another creature.

Plus, I'd probably be a shit shot.

Hehe, never shot a gun before?

I'm both for and against hunting. The type you describe, where you stalk an animal, kill it and then eat it, I don't really have a problem with, although I doubt I'd actually do it myself. On the other hand, fox hunting, where a terrified fox is chased down by people on horseback and a pack of dogs, and trophy hunting, where the only reason for killing the animal is to show that you did, I'm much less keen on.

The last half of your post is on the money with what I'd expect people to have some beef with. I do as well. I can't really see a point in it if the animals chances are that abysmal. Trophy hunting is both cool and cruel at the same time. I wouldn't mind having a moose head in my room, but the whole thing...no thanks.

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Over here, deer, rabbits, turkeys etc are pests. They have a funny habit of killing native wildlife. We've got volunteer hunting clubs that hunt in the state forests (but not the national parks, 'cause the hippies would protest). There also aren't that many of them, since gun laws are a bit tougher here. I don't hunt myself, I just never got around to doing it and wouldn't know how.

Yeah, I've seen it where the deer population gets so out of control that they need to be hunted. Its interesting to hear the arguments against hunting them at that point.

I do hunt, both fowl, and moose, I don't see how it?s cruel, its either me to get them or wolves and wolves are mean killers...

Well, I don't see how its cruel, other than the stuff described by Nil.

 

[shadowstriker86]

If i could be Ted Nugent i would. Nothing is better tasting than an animal that you've killed. And i dont care what anyone says, venison is one of the best pieces of meat you could ever eat

 

[Mr.Pandah]

If i could be Ted Nugent i would. Nothing is better tasting than an animal that you've killed. And i dont care what anyone says, venison is one of the best pieces of meat you could ever eat

Ted Nugent is fucking nuts. That being said, I wouldn't want him any other way. Love that guy.

 

[SharPhoe]

I don't hunt, as it's against my morals. I could never bring myself to intentionally kill another creature.

Plus, I'd probably be a shit shot.

Hehe, never shot a gun before?

No sir, except for Nerf and water guns. Not really interested in the experience, though.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

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Over here, deer, rabbits, turkeys etc are pests. They have a funny habit of killing native wildlife. We've got volunteer hunting clubs that hunt in the state forests (but not the national parks, 'cause the hippies would protest). There also aren't that many of them, since gun laws are a bit tougher here. I don't hunt myself, I just never got around to doing it and wouldn't know how.

I had a discussion with a friend about fox hunting that revolved around a similar axis. His background contained more familiarity with agricultural life than mine did and he pointed out that to UK farmers, foxes are pests.

That was a point that I couldn't deny. Foxes are legitimately harmful to agriculture, but I felt, and still do feel, that there are better ways of dealing with such pests than chasing them down and letting dogs tear them apart.

Fox hunting in the UK has become a heavily ritualised activity and seems to me to have very little to do with actual pest control any more.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

I don't hunt, as it's against my morals. I could never bring myself to intentionally kill another creature.

Plus, I'd probably be a shit shot.

Hehe, never shot a gun before?

No sir, except for Nerf and water guns. Not really interested in the experience, though.

Decision respected. Nerf guns are pretty badass though.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

yes i hunt. i killed a bear with my bear hands.

Fixed.

I'm both for and against hunting. The type you describe, where you stalk an animal, kill it and then eat it, I don't really have a problem with, although I doubt I'd actually do it myself. On the other hand, fox hunting, where a terrified fox is chased down by people on horseback and a pack of dogs, and trophy hunting, where the only reason for killing the animal is to show that you did, I'm much less keen on.

I pretty much have to agree with this.
I don't see anything wrong with hunting to eat, because no matter where you get your meat, the store or the forest, something died for it anyway.

But hunting just so you can brag about how you killed an animal incapable of using a firearm with a high-powered rifle from two hundred yards away...
Well, what does that prove, exactly?

Anyway, no, I do not hunt, but to be fair, I wouldn't know where to hunt.
And I'm sort of...afraid...of the people around here who would hunt. They are redneck stereotypes like you've scarcely imagined possible.

Oh no...not those types... Scary stuff happens if you go into the forest without the knowledge that someone else is in there as well. My brother was actually almost shot because two idiots were walking around on our property upstate, hunting. I don't blame ya for not going out there with those types of people.

 

[ThePoodonkis]

I don't mind it, I just won't participate. I don't like killing things, but if you want to, use all the parts. Don't be wasteful.

There are, however, some instances where I do not condone hunting in any way.
Like the guy who lives across the street from me. He trains his dogs to hunt raccoons and tear them apart limb from limb, just for the heck of it.
Or the local sport which involves a shotgun, a truck, and any animal passed by. House cat, domesticated dog, wild possum, whatever those drunken hick idiots can see whilst driving around.
Or hunting out of season, during the night, behind my house.
Or shooting a baby animal, then tying it to the hood of a truck and parading it around for all to see.


Lot of civilized people in my town...

 

[Mr.Pandah]

I don't mind it, I just won't participate.
But there are some instances where I do not condone hunting in any way.

Like the guy who lives across the street from me. He trains his dogs to hunt raccoons and tear them apart limb from limb, just for the heck of it.
Or the local sport which involves a shotgun, a truck, and any animal passed by. House cat, domesticated dog, wild possum, whatever those drunken hick idiots can see whilst driving around.
Or hunting out of season, during the night, behind my house.
Or shooting a baby animal, then tying it to the hood of a truck and parading it around for all to see.


Lot of civilized people in my town...

That sounds...great. I wouldn't even classify that as hunting or those people as hunters. Thats just...dangerous.

 

[ThePoodonkis]

I don't mind it, I just won't participate.
But there are some instances where I do not condone hunting in any way.

Like the guy who lives across the street from me. He trains his dogs to hunt raccoons and tear them apart limb from limb, just for the heck of it.
Or the local sport which involves a shotgun, a truck, and any animal passed by. House cat, domesticated dog, wild possum, whatever those drunken hick idiots can see whilst driving around.
Or hunting out of season, during the night, behind my house.
Or shooting a baby animal, then tying it to the hood of a truck and parading it around for all to see.


Lot of civilized people in my town...

That sounds...great. I wouldn't even classify that as hunting or those people as hunters. That's just...dangerous.

I don't call it hunting, I consider it Senseless Killing. Around here, though, they call it hunting. When I call it senseless killing, they get all offended.

 

[Motti]

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Over here, deer, rabbits, turkeys etc are pests. They have a funny habit of killing native wildlife. We've got volunteer hunting clubs that hunt in the state forests (but not the national parks, 'cause the hippies would protest). There also aren't that many of them, since gun laws are a bit tougher here. I don't hunt myself, I just never got around to doing it and wouldn't know how.

I had a discussion with a friend about fox hunting that revolved around a similar axis. His background contained more familiarity with agricultural life than mine did and he pointed out that to UK farmers, foxes are pests.

That was a point that I couldn't deny. Foxes are legitimately harmful to agriculture, but I felt, and still do feel, that there are better ways of dealing with such pests than chasing them down and letting dogs tear them apart.

Fox hunting in the UK has become a heavily ritualised activity and seems to me to have very little to do with actual pest control any more.

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