Do you get many side effects? Ive known of people to take anti-depressants to get high so i'd imagine there must be some sort of side-effects (especially when you have other drugs too)?Eamar said:
Do you necessarily need to have mental health issues to kill someone?
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No. "Sanctity" of life is not an attribute of human species. It is an attribute of part of human society. And humans are social creatures. When instinct overwhelms imposed morality, you can kill and stay entirely sane. Also there is such a thing as dehumanising, which circumvents morality.
So, no, but it helps.
So, no, but it helps.
No, if you're conciously killing another person I do believe you need a state of mind which is very much out of the ordinary, but not necessarily a disorder.
If you add guns to the equasion, simple fits of rage, moments of stupidity, or miscalculations suffice.
Then of course you also have the abuse of various substances and cultural differences.
If you add guns to the equasion, simple fits of rage, moments of stupidity, or miscalculations suffice.
Then of course you also have the abuse of various substances and cultural differences.
Not really, no. I've tried loads of different medications over the last few years, some of which did cause some very nasty side effects, but a big part of treating a condition like this is finding the right drugs for the individual patient.shootthebandit said:
The antidepressant caused a strange feeling of ants crawling all over my skin for the first day or two, but nothing since then. Lithium has caused a bit of acne, but I'm about to start a course of medication for that which worked for me in my teens. It's also given me a slight tremor in my hands and makes me more thirsty than I used to be, but those are both completely manageable.
Everyone's different, and different people can have radically different reactions to different drugs. This is true of pretty much all medicine, but especially for psychoactive medication because we still don't know a huge amount about how the brain works.
I've never heard of people taking antidepressants to get high, but they can sometimes send bipolar people manic so I guess anything's possible. Of course, people taking them recreationally don't actually need them, so obviously they're not going to work the way they're meant to in that scenario.
Well, in pre-agricultural societies I have read in several sources that one of the main causes of death for people was murder. Indeed throughout history people having constantly been killing each other to the point where it might be fair to say that that is the norm. Honestly I am pretty sure that murder is very natural, and it in no way requires someone to be crazy for them to kills someone else. Killing is in effect one of the most basic urges we have.
However, millennia of social conditioning developed overtime with the creation of civilization is what prevents us from just killing each other.
So the real question is: do you need to have a mental health issue to overcome that societal conditioning? Which is I think a more interesting question.
P.S.: shame on you Escapist for not recognizing the word "millennia"
However, millennia of social conditioning developed overtime with the creation of civilization is what prevents us from just killing each other.
So the real question is: do you need to have a mental health issue to overcome that societal conditioning? Which is I think a more interesting question.
P.S.: shame on you Escapist for not recognizing the word "millennia"
Nope, all you need is a good reason that makes sense to you. Even if that reason is "because i want to."
more people have mental health issues then you'd think. I'd say almost 90% of people develop or have a mental issue sometime during their life. Society tells us that it is a shame to admit to having mental issues. Most of these people want help but feel like they can't get any due to social stigma. They bottle it up till they hit a breaking point.krazykidd said:
Let's say that's true your first sentence is true ( 90% seems like a lot ). There is no way 90% of the population get's treated for mental health issues, does that mean that some mental health issues auto-resolve themselves overtime? If not , then wouldn't that then mean that the remaining 10% are actually the abnormal people?ultratog1028 said:
Not at all. There are lots of reasons people kill other people that nobodies assumes they're mentally ill. Revenge and money being the most obvious and understandable. Mostly these people go to jail, but usually nobody questions their mental health. THe mental health issue usually comes up when their is no apparent reason, like when the victim seems random.
Either you can kill someone without having to have mental health issues (even though a soldier killing an enemy is accepted, it?s still killing, but they?re not deemed as having mental health issues), or we all have mental health issues. Anger can be quite a powerful motivating factor for killing someone, without having to put a label of ?schizophrenia? or something on it. Perhaps there?s no mental illness at all, since the criteria for a certain disorder can always change. There?s just a ?mental health spectrum?, and some people are further down one end than most others.
Also, very few people know what psychopathy/sociopathy actually entails. I know a lot of people who come across as selfish and uncaring of other people?s feelings, but I wouldn?t call them a sociopath. I have a sort-of-but-not-really friend who laughs at videos he finds online of people getting beheaded (mostly Islamist soldiers, but still), but he?s not a sociopath. He?s just a dick.
Aside from murder, what about rapists and human traffickers? Are they mentally ill, or just bastards? How about Elliot Rodger ? a young man with the world?s worst ?Nice Guy? complex? frustrated with how shit he perceived his life to be, or a textbook example of someone suffering from narcissistic personality disorder and supported by having been in long-term therapy? What about child molesters? And that includes the regretful ones, who claim to have been sexually addicted rather than wanting to cause actual harm, and even a lot of non-paedophiles in society don?t really treat children as people ? not until they become adults, at least.
But none of us are real psychologists anyway.
Also, very few people know what psychopathy/sociopathy actually entails. I know a lot of people who come across as selfish and uncaring of other people?s feelings, but I wouldn?t call them a sociopath. I have a sort-of-but-not-really friend who laughs at videos he finds online of people getting beheaded (mostly Islamist soldiers, but still), but he?s not a sociopath. He?s just a dick.
Aside from murder, what about rapists and human traffickers? Are they mentally ill, or just bastards? How about Elliot Rodger ? a young man with the world?s worst ?Nice Guy? complex? frustrated with how shit he perceived his life to be, or a textbook example of someone suffering from narcissistic personality disorder and supported by having been in long-term therapy? What about child molesters? And that includes the regretful ones, who claim to have been sexually addicted rather than wanting to cause actual harm, and even a lot of non-paedophiles in society don?t really treat children as people ? not until they become adults, at least.
But none of us are real psychologists anyway.