Do you think Microsoft will use bluray with theyre next console?

[Hunter65416]

I love my 360 to bits but one of its biggest failings is that the DVD disk size is starting to age a bit for example final fantasy having to be cut downa bit graphically because it wouldnt fit on the disk so do you think microsoft will adopt bluray into their next console or do you think they might have something else up their sleeve?

Edit: and yes thats meant to say their next console im not perfect.)

 

[Fenring]

No. It's owned by Sony.

ps It was limited by bad optimization, not disk size. You're thinking of the audio tracks.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I'm sure that Microsoft is working on it's own data compression tech (or whatever you call it) as we speak.

 

[MR T3D]

well, 2014 (earliest logical estimate given kinnect's sales) is a ways away, by then I hope that devs manage to create games big and epic enough to be limited by DVD's, so yeah, they'll use something.

But I think it'll be HD-DVD, because that's almost propitiatory between them and toshiba, and using it would effectively eliminate pirates copying discs unless the physically make the HD-DVD-writer themselves/still have one from when that format was sold, which doesn't seem plausible.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

If you believe Sony/MS when they say the next round of consoles is 4-5 years off, there's a decent chance they might not use any physical media whatsoever.

 

[Sacman]

No Blu ray is owned by Sony...<.<

 

[Zedayen]

The two options I foresee them using with their new console is most likely going to be either heavy reliance on digital distribution or Solid State Drives, not bigger than say a credit card, which you would use not unlike the first three generations of Nintendo consoles.

 

[AcacianLeaves]

I personally believe we'll see an external blu-ray player for the 360 at some point in the near future, if movies are the concern.

Other than that, I think our next generation of consoles won't be based on DVD or Blu-Ray. I think we'll still have physical media but it will be something as yet undetermined. For now if any game comes on more than one DVD its usually a bloated and over-written piece of junk anyway, so I'm good with current tech.

 

[Timmibal]

HD=DVD

well, 2014 (earliest logical estimate given kinnect's sales) is a ways away, by then I hope that devs manage to create games big and epic enough to be limited by DVD's, so yeah, they'll use something.

But I think it'll be HD-DVD, because that's almost propitiatory between them and toshiba, and using it would effectively eliminate pirates copying discs unless the physically make the HD-DVD-writer themselves/still have one from when that format was sold, which doesn't seem plausible.

HD-DVD has officially been a dead format since 2008, so I don't think that's happening.

I don't believe the next gen console will even use an optical drive as its primary. With storage costs on hard drives dropping so dramatically and internet speeds increasing, as well as the limitations of optical drive formats becoming evident with games, I can see the majority of games for next gen consoles being direct downloads over an xbox live equivalent. If a hard copy is needed for whatever reason, the customer pays a small surcharge for printing/shipping, something like what MS does with Digital River already for new OS releases.

 

[Scars Unseen]

If BluRay movies overtake DVDs in sales by the time the next generation is in the works, then Microsoft would be crazy not to include a Bluray drive.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

HD=DVD

well, 2014 (earliest logical estimate given kinnect's sales) is a ways away, by then I hope that devs manage to create games big and epic enough to be limited by DVD's, so yeah, they'll use something.

But I think it'll be HD-DVD, because that's almost propitiatory between them and toshiba, and using it would effectively eliminate pirates copying discs unless the physically make the HD-DVD-writer themselves/still have one from when that format was sold, which doesn't seem plausible.

HD-DVD has officially been a dead format since 2008, so I don't think that's happening.

I don't believe the next gen console will even use an optical drive as its primary. With storage costs on hard drives dropping so dramatically and internet speeds increasing, as well as the limitations of optical drive formats becoming evident with games, I can see the majority of games for next gen consoles being direct downloads over an xbox live equivalent. If a hard copy is needed for whatever reason, the customer pays a small surcharge for printing/shipping, something like what MS does with Digital River already for new OS releases.

but it would be a smart move on microsofts part to take the rights for it and use it, since they could fit more data on them per disk, and it would just become an exclusive for their games.

although this would've been a smart move to do 2 years ago..not 4-5 years from now. by then it'll all probably be SSD and digital distribution..which either way im fine with.

 

[Something Amyss]

No. It's owned by Sony.

Completely false.

BD

If you believe Sony/MS when they say the next round of consoles is 4-5 years off, there's a decent chance they might not use any physical media whatsoever.

With Download caps and bandwidth limitations becoming the norm, I'd say the odds are against no physical media unless something radical changes.

 

[Les Awesome]

blu-rays will be obsolete by then
it'll all be downloaded movies

 

[Flapjack Ninja]

I think they have too. The only reason why I haven't start collecting blu-rays is because the 360 doesn't support them. And I don't want separate devices for movies and games.

 

[Sarah Kerrigan]

I can't see it happening But I can see Microsoft doing something similar to blu-ray. Or maybe letting Netflix use it some how on there instant streaming.

 

[guardian001]

No. It's owned by Sony.

Completely false.

Not completely, they do (or did) own the rights to using it, although those may have expired.

but it would be a smart move on microsofts part to take the rights for it and use it,

The XBox does have a peripheral that let it use HD-DVD. It sold pitifully and everybody laughed at them. It was not a good idea then, and it certainly isn't now. It may be the better format, but it lost. Spending money on the technology would be money they'd never see again.

 

[Something Amyss]

No. It's owned by Sony.

Completely false.

Not completely, they do (or did) own the rights to using it, although those may have expired.

No, that's false too.

Sony is part of (and a charter member of) the BDA (Blu Ray Disc Association).

They are partial rights holders, but never owned complete rights, as it was developed in tandem with several other companies. They also licensed technology from Microsoft in order to make BD work.

Anyone who tells you that Sony owns it or that it won't come to a MS product because it's a Sony thing is flat out wrong. They probably also believe HD-DVD was a Microsoft product.

 

[TelHybrid]

well, 2014 (earliest logical estimate given kinnect's sales) is a ways away, by then I hope that devs manage to create games big and epic enough to be limited by DVD's, so yeah, they'll use something.

But I think it'll be HD-DVD, because that's almost propitiatory between them and toshiba, and using it would effectively eliminate pirates copying discs unless the physically make the HD-DVD-writer themselves/still have one from when that format was sold, which doesn't seem plausible.

My friend on a computer sciences University course had a class visit from an ATi representative, he claimed it would be 2012. Whether that's true is debatable, but somewhat reliable.

I severely doubt it will be HD-DVD. It's a dead format that's no longer in production. It would cost too much to revive it for one platform.

The most logical theory is that it will indeed use blu-ray discs. It's in mass production, therefore cheap. It wont cost much for Microsoft to buy the licenses to use blu-ray for their next console. Let's face it, it's Microsoft.

Also to anyone theorising that it will purely be digital distribution, consider these factors.
There a lot of regions that lack decent internet connections, hell some without broadband. Imagine you're still on a 2Mb connection and you have to download a 12GB game. That will turn a large part of the market away.

Many games retailers would refuse to stock them as well as they wouldn't make a single penny from games, look at how things went with the PSPGo.

There's also still a lot of people uncomfortable with purchasing stuff over the internet.

It will never become a digital distribution monopoly.

 

[Fenring]

No. It's owned by Sony.

Completely false.

BD

lol good one.

Blu-Ray was developed and is owned by the "Blu-ray Disc Association." the members of the BDA are Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, and Samsung.

So yes, they do own part of Blu-ray and would thus benefit from a Xbox 720 with Blu-ray tech.

 

[TPiddy]

The two options I foresee them using with their new console is most likely going to be either heavy reliance on digital distribution or Solid State Drives, not bigger than say a credit card, which you would use not unlike the first three generations of Nintendo consoles.

This exactly. Either we'll go back to a 'cartridge' style format to discourage pirating while still giving people physical media, or we'll go completely digital distribution. One thing's for sure, no way in hell Microsoft is gonna PAY Sony and company for a Blu-Ray license.