Do you vote?

[ChildishLegacy]

I'm afraid that you have a wild misconception about what a 3rd world country actually is.

Also talking about "Europeans" as an indistinct whole makes me giggle.

While you are 100% correct in that that guy has absolutely no idea what actually being a 3rd world country actually entails, from everything I've heard he does seem to have some kind of point, insofar as most of Europe is broke. As is most of the rest of the world, for that matter. There are interesting times ahead, which will hopefully end for the better.

hhaahah. The market told us that there is 100% that European countries will go bankrupted. The math don't lie. They can't paid of their debts because European countries do not produce or create wealth, just like third world countries.

Without money their will be no service. Without money their will be no welfare. Without money you have nothing. If you're European I recommend you to stack up on food, water, and ammo because when it happen it will be worst than the Zombie Apocalypse.

Oh wise and wonderful, prophetic economist, how true are your heavenly, knowledgeable words?
Well not very to be honest, your clear lack of global political knowledge is astounding, I don't know where you get your information from or if you just decided to have the opinion that Europe was bankrupt for the fun of it, but you haven't made a single true statement in any of the posts I've seen on this thread.

As far as I know, the US has been hit harder than places like the UK in terms of unemployment etc. by this "recession" (which I don't like calling it, because we're really not in a real recession at the moment), the US having a lot less tax funded welfare for it's citizens than the UK clearly hasn't helped it in any way.

Also Europe is a VERY broad term to use when you're talking about places going bankrupt, places like Germany have their best unemployment figures in years during this "recession" and are progressing at the same rate and living in the same manner as before the "recession", Germany being quite a politically centered state at the moment (if a tiny bit center-right). The only European country that has had any real trouble so far is Greece, which admittedly has been major trouble.

But please, when posting, try to include facts or why you are making these silly assumptions so you don't just sound stubborn and ignorant.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

I grew up watching the shit storm that Florida made during the Bush/Gore election. I argued with my parents that Bush should be elected because he didn't win the popular vote. As in more people voted for Gore, but because Bush won the electoral vote he got into office.

I still vote, because while I find many aspects of this country disgusting I am still one of its citizens and should do my duty as an American.

Besides I have no right to ***** about a president, when I never voted in their election.

You should be proud. Not much people understand the electoral process, the constitution, and the founding fathers intent.

Maybe I shouldn't thats a typo I meant "shouldn't".

I understand the electoral process now, but at the time I didn't. A kid sees more people vote for one person, but the other one gets in made no sense to me.

 

[USSR]

In the end, it's all very dramatic, and a lot of harsh words are probably said. I think it sounds like a good system.

Aaah, I see. Thank you. Never quite grasped it

 

[Saladfork]

I'm Canadian and I voted for the NDP.

Ironically, despite gaining more seats than they ever had previous, and beating out the liberals and bloc quebecois, two firmly established parties, they actually have less power now than they did before the last election due to the tory majority.

Ah well. I honestly don't think Harper is doing a bad job, per se, I just think it could be done better.

 

[jdun]

no elected official represent the US people as a whole. It wasn't design to.

I'm fairly sure that's part of what the president, and only the president, is for.

Read the constitution of the USA. The President of the USA do not represent or voted into office by the People Of The United State of America. The President is ELECTED BY STATES OFFICIALS. HE IS NOT ELECTED BY POPULAR VOTE. The President represent the STATES and NOT THE PEOPLE.

THE USA IS A REPUBLIC.

 

[jdun]

I'm afraid that you have a wild misconception about what a 3rd world country actually is.

Also talking about "Europeans" as an indistinct whole makes me giggle.

While you are 100% correct in that that guy has absolutely no idea what actually being a 3rd world country actually entails, from everything I've heard he does seem to have some kind of point, insofar as most of Europe is broke. As is most of the rest of the world, for that matter. There are interesting times ahead, which will hopefully end for the better.

hhaahah. The market told us that there is 100% that European countries will go bankrupted. The math don't lie. They can't paid of their debts because European countries do not produce or create wealth, just like third world countries.

Without money their will be no service. Without money their will be no welfare. Without money you have nothing. If you're European I recommend you to stack up on food, water, and ammo because when it happen it will be worst than the Zombie Apocalypse.

Oh wise and wonderful, prophetic economist, how true are your heavenly, knowledgeable words?
Well not very to be honest, your clear lack of global political knowledge is astounding, I don't know where you get your information from or if you just decided to have the opinion that Europe was bankrupt for the fun of it, but you haven't made a single true statement in any of the posts I've seen on this thread.

As far as I know, the US has been hit harder than places like the UK in terms of unemployment etc. by this "recession" (which I don't like calling it, because we're really not in a real recession at the moment), the US having a lot less tax funded welfare for it's citizens than the UK clearly hasn't helped it in any way.

Also Europe is a VERY broad term to use when you're talking about places going bankrupt, places like Germany have their best unemployment figures in years during this "recession" and are progressing at the same rate and living in the same manner as before the "recession", Germany being quite a politically centered state at the moment (if a tiny bit center-right). The only European country that has had any real trouble so far is Greece, which admittedly has been major trouble.

But please, when posting, try to include facts or why you are making these silly assumptions so you don't just sound stubborn and ignorant.

It's all over the fucking news. You have to live in a cave to not notice it.

You want facts. Google Greece debt. The market now predict 98% Greece cannot service it debt in March. In fact the Eurozone want to get rid of Greece in their club.

Now go google PIIGS.

Now go google European bank runs.

Now go google "I recommend panic".

Every financial website is asking when Europe will go 3rd world.

You can go to any financial website or youtube videos telling you how fuck up Europe have became.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/european-bailout-inforgraphic-presenting-truckloads-cash-needed-rescue-insolvent-piigs

 

[jdun]

I grew up watching the shit storm that Florida made during the Bush/Gore election. I argued with my parents that Bush should be elected because he didn't win the popular vote. As in more people voted for Gore, but because Bush won the electoral vote he got into office.

I still vote, because while I find many aspects of this country disgusting I am still one of its citizens and should do my duty as an American.

Besides I have no right to ***** about a president, when I never voted in their election.

You should be proud. Not much people understand the electoral process, the constitution, and the founding fathers intent.

Maybe I shouldn't thats a typo I meant "shouldn't".

I understand the electoral process now, but at the time I didn't. A kid sees more people vote for one person, but the other one gets in made no sense to me.

Again you should be proud of yourself for taking the time to learn how our political system works.

To understand why the system was created like it is you must understand that the USA is made up of 50 NATIONS (13 originally) and a handful of colonies.

Each States in America has their own government. Their own laws. Their own military. Their own culture.

 

[Pebblig]

Might as well vote at least in protest. Such as an obscure party.

http://www.loonyparty.com/about/policy-proposals/

i.e These guys. Interestingly they actually played a role in getting the voting age down from 21 to 18. Now they just take the piss in a fantastic manner.

 

[Nexxis]

I vote when I feel there is a side (that I agree with) that I'd like to see win. Otherwise, I'm usually indifferent and don't make any extra effort to make it to the voting booth.

 

[Yureina]

I vote and live in the USA. It seems pretty fruitless though... I only do it... well I don't really know why. I just do.

 

[Saint of M]

Also, if you don't like the other the main contenders, vote for one of the under dogs still going into it and see what happens.

There are also the laws and such. Remember Prop 8? How many people that didn't like that bill chose not to vote because they felt their vote doesn't count?

 

[Gerishnakov]

I find it very strange that all these Brits are so in too American politics. Not that we shouldn't know what's going on with other countries. But shouldn't you guys be more concerned with your own governments politics? Especially considering how much everyone seems to like complaining about their situation?

Buddy, I work for a British Member of Parliament, I'm very concerned about the government and politics of my country. Why should that stop me taking an interest in the rest of the world? Don't think I'm obsessing over your country either, I'm interested in many countries right around the world. You unfortunately appear to be conforming to the stereotype of an American uninterested in the rest of the world.

 

[Gerishnakov]

no elected official represent the US people as a whole. It wasn't design to.

I'm fairly sure that's part of what the president, and only the president, is for.

Read the constitution of the USA. The President of the USA do not represent or voted into office by the People Of The United State of America. The President is ELECTED BY STATES OFFICIALS. HE IS NOT ELECTED BY POPULAR VOTE. The President represent the STATES and NOT THE PEOPLE.

THE USA IS A REPUBLIC.

ZOMG CAPS!!1!

The British electorate don't choose the Prime Minister or the monarch, that doesn't stop those people from representing us as a whole nation.

I realise the president is not elected by popular vote, but if that's your argument why do you think you have presidential elections? The popular vote within each state determines the vote of officials you mentioned doesn't it?

Surely by virtue of their position at the top of your government the president by default represents the whole nation, whether or not that is officialy written into the constitution.

The UK doesn't even have a constitution, how do you think we get by?

 

[Gerishnakov]

Might as well vote at least in protest. Such as an obscure party.

http://www.loonyparty.com/about/policy-proposals/

i.e These guys. Interestingly they actually played a role in getting the voting age down from 21 to 18. Now they just take the piss in a fantastic manner.

I wouldn't mind the Monster Raving Loony party going about their business, if it wasn't for all their candidates being BNP nutcases who went over the edge.

 

[Gerishnakov]

hhaahah. The market told us that there is 100% that European countries will go bankrupted. The math don't lie. They can't paid of their debts because European countries do not produce or create wealth, just like third world countries.

Without money their will be no service. Without money their will be no welfare. Without money you have nothing. If you're European I recommend you to stack up on food, water, and ammo because when it happen it will be worst than the Zombie Apocalypse.

Oh wise and wonderful, prophetic economist, how true are your heavenly, knowledgeable words?
Well not very to be honest, your clear lack of global political knowledge is astounding, I don't know where you get your information from or if you just decided to have the opinion that Europe was bankrupt for the fun of it, but you haven't made a single true statement in any of the posts I've seen on this thread.

As far as I know, the US has been hit harder than places like the UK in terms of unemployment etc. by this "recession" (which I don't like calling it, because we're really not in a real recession at the moment), the US having a lot less tax funded welfare for it's citizens than the UK clearly hasn't helped it in any way.

Also Europe is a VERY broad term to use when you're talking about places going bankrupt, places like Germany have their best unemployment figures in years during this "recession" and are progressing at the same rate and living in the same manner as before the "recession", Germany being quite a politically centered state at the moment (if a tiny bit center-right). The only European country that has had any real trouble so far is Greece, which admittedly has been major trouble.

But please, when posting, try to include facts or why you are making these silly assumptions so you don't just sound stubborn and ignorant.

It's all over the fucking news. You have to live in a cave to not notice it.

You want facts. Google Greece debt. The market now predict 98% Greece cannot service it debt in March. In fact the Eurozone want to get rid of Greece in their club.

Now go google PIIGS.

Now go google European bank runs.

Now go google "I recommend panic".

Every financial website is asking when Europe will go 3rd world.

You can go to any financial website or youtube videos telling you how fuck up Europe have became.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/european-bailout-inforgraphic-presenting-truckloads-cash-needed-rescue-insolvent-piigs

I agree with Midgeamoo, you are very uninformed. You also need to clean up your spelling and grammar.

 

[Evil Smurf]

I am in Australia, I love voting!

 

[Legendsmith]

I am in Australia, I love voting!

Spoiler: Yes, yes, we love voting

We also love not being fined.

 

[Whoatemysupper]

I saw Obama's socialism immediately and my parents didn't listen to me.

I don't know if you're just trolling mate, but Obama socialist? Please.

Not everyone understood what his spending plans were when he was campaigning. I'm being serious. My mother abstained from voting and my father voted for Obama. My cousin didn't care either way but I convinced him to vote McCain. Not ideal but good enough.

Why is socialism such a bad word in America? It's just a bit more about sharing than conservatism.

O.T. I'm not of age to vote.

 

[Chanel Tompkins]

I do, but only for major elections. Mostly because on the local level here, it's always cockup A Vs. cockup B, anyone who might not be a cockup around here never makes it out of primaries because for some reason, the populace likes cockups.

 

[NotSoLoneWanderer]

I saw Obama's socialism immediately and my parents didn't listen to me.

I don't know if you're just trolling mate, but Obama socialist? Please.

Not everyone understood what his spending plans were when he was campaigning. I'm being serious. My mother abstained from voting and my father voted for Obama. My cousin didn't care either way but I convinced him to vote McCain. Not ideal but good enough.

Why is socialism such a bad word in America? It's just a bit more about sharing than conservatism.

O.T. I'm not of age to vote.

Spending during a recession and wanting to reduce the debt at the same time. If we had no debt I wouldn't care.