Does anyone else feel bad when their troops in RTS games die?
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Not good to have a conscious when playing any sort of game that involves people under your control.
But my answer is no, not a thing because I am always usually to busy wishing the textures looked better.
But my answer is no, not a thing because I am always usually to busy wishing the textures looked better.
It depends on the game. If its a relatively large scale then a large number of losses makes me feel bad but the odd unit isnt too bad. Games where everyone has a personality though, like fire emblem, I always try to save all my team
Im supprised nobody has said it yet but
This may explain why I play the "bad guys" more frequently; Nod, Soviets, Chaos. Also as a side note a lot of DoW armies actualy encourage you to throw troops away; imperial guard are expendable, chaos just chuck heretics at stuff and space marines say things like "the fallen shall be forever remembered" or "glory to the first man to die".
I have an odd relationship with my troops the ground level stuff I really couldnt care less about; its their purpose to die to further the cause. Higher level units that I can see (ones that arn't parts of squads like commandos) I tend to get more attached too whether this is because they are no longer faceless or because they cost more is up for discussion.Zofia from russian side of Red alert 2 talking about conscripts said:
This may explain why I play the "bad guys" more frequently; Nod, Soviets, Chaos. Also as a side note a lot of DoW armies actualy encourage you to throw troops away; imperial guard are expendable, chaos just chuck heretics at stuff and space marines say things like "the fallen shall be forever remembered" or "glory to the first man to die".
I get sad if I name them. Like that time I accidentally nuked Stan the Milatary Man.
*sniff* Rest in peace, Stan.
Rest in peace.
*sniff* Rest in peace, Stan.
Rest in peace.
Well, one time in Coh, when 6 of my vet-3 Grenadier squads got completely owned in a strafing run with no survivors, I yelled in a pillow at the top of my voice for about 5 good seconds. Then I punched the pillow. Does that count?
No. Put one problem is that I am a complete and utter pussy. The last game I won was in DoW. My opponent began copying the "Lucky Punk" thing and I wiped his base clean just after he finished. Usually I turtle. I worked once when I made the last opponent quit after his got bored of Flayed One spam. That day rocked hard.
It's a tad more important in Fire Emblem than WC3/DoW and possibly Pikmin though I haven't played it. If you units die in Fire Emblem they never ever ever ever come back. You permanently had that person killed and they will never again offer their combat expertise to your fights or their insight for your story. I won't let anyone in my Fire Emblem games die. If they do I turn the game off and restart chapter. Dammit, I'll pull all 30 or so characters through to the very end of the story just to get their own paragraph epilogue!Kuroma said:
(And the reason I didn't mention FE before this is that it's a TBS, not RTS ;D)
It's kind of interesting that you feel that DoW units are expendable -- when I played it, I tended to feel the opposite, especially for the imperial guard. From a resource availability and gameplay standpoint, they really are expendable... But I tend to turtle pretty hardcore as IG, since I still feel bad for sending hordes of men to their deaths, even if I have loads of resources to call in reinforcements.Scorched_Cascade said:
Come to think of it, I feel the same way when I play the 40k table top game -- I think the appeal of these games is that you can pretend to be an actual commander of great armies... but with great power over the armies comes great responsibility to the pretend families of the pretend soldiers.
It's nice to see some discussion on this topic. I think that games could be a lot better if developers could really find a way to make RTS players connect with their troops. It adds another dimension to the tactical gameplay when you actually care about preserving your troops, instead of just meeting objectives at any cost.
Nathan A. said:
With imperial guard? The other races I can understand (I.e eldar where they constantly moan about having to fight/die)but guardsmen? Their commisars get an execute command to inspire the rest they are that expendable but then again I do see your point and I do concede that I don't like it when they all morale break and run but other than that I play them like grist to the mill.
Yeah, a lot of the time I'll take my wounded units and hide them in a corner or something so they don't wind up dying later on. I did this quite a bit for a while with Warcraft III, until I realised that I had tons of extra resources and I could just keep pumping out more.
Well, it kinda depends. In Dawn of War, I'd always be very protective of my Commander units. They would always be the ones that I'd feel bad about losing. Well, them and Space Marine Grey Knights. Actually, I'd always use the Grey Knights to act as a bodyguard for the Commander. Anyway, most other units I thought of as "redshirt" characters anyway, do I didn't really care if they died.
