Does anyone else find Fox's new Terra Nova insulting and just generally stupid?

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Mikeyfell

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Korten12 said:
So your watching it, despite hating it and thus get more angry at it?

What?

You didn't read my first post. The short version is that I gave Terra Nova a chance because it happened in between two shows I do like, so I wanted it to be good.

Since Terra Nova is shit, every Monday at 8 I have to do something for exactly one hour so I don't have to watch that show. It's not easy to do something for exactly one hour, I feel justified in being ticked off at this show.
What? Seriosuly? I was just pointing out how you are overreacting, it's a TV show. It hasn't insulted you, it doesn't care what YOU think. If it's not what you wanted, it wasn't made for YOU.
What? Seriously? I was just pointing out how you were overreacting. What a coincidence.
You telling me that I'm overreacting about a bad TV show.
Me telling you that you're overreacting about someone disagreeing with you about a bad TV show.

The thing is there's a reason I watched Terra Nova.
Why did you even go to the Terra Nova sucks thread if not to make all the people who didn't like it as much as you did fell like small people?

Because you know, those reasons ARE subjective.
There is some level of subjectivity there but you honestly think the pilot episode was well paced? In less than a half an hour they introduced 2 extreme settings, at least 8 major characters. skip ahead many years and essentially give the main guy 2 fresh starts. that should have been an entire season. (subjectively)
 

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Yeah, what I don't get is how they are somehow able to communicate with the original timeline. That confused the hell out of me this week, was it mentioned in the pilot?
 

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You remind me of the times I complain about how silly commercials are, and how my mom used to always say "they are commercials, they are not meant to make sense."
 

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Anon4335 said:
Well obviously the people at fox are going to hell for spreading this shitty rumor about dinosars. The earth was created by God 6000 years ago. Dinosar bones are Gods way of testing our faith, the Bible says so. there are no dinosars and people who believe in such blasfemy are going to hell for it because they dont follow the one TRUE God. Our lord and savoir Almighty. God knows what you beleve and he will judge you for it.
.... Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because years of scientific research, millions of years of evolution, Carbon Dating, and geological stratigraphic research, coupled with our understanding of the Big Bang and particle physics is all wrong, just because some book that has gone through more revisions than the Dictionary said so. ...Im having serious doubts about why someone with a Creationist mindset is on a website devoted to SciFi and Technology.
Besides the fact your grammar is atrocious, i believe the term "STFU n00b" apply here. If you have nothing nice to say, dont be surprised when people throw things at you for saying it.

But going back to the original topic at hand. Its a show. It might grow on you.
 

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Solkov01 said:
Anon4335 said:
Well obviously the people at fox are going to hell for spreading this shitty rumor about dinosars. The earth was created by God 6000 years ago. Dinosar bones are Gods way of testing our faith, the Bible says so. there are no dinosars and people who believe in such blasfemy are going to hell for it because they dont follow the one TRUE God. Our lord and savoir Almighty. God knows what you beleve and he will judge you for it.
.... Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because years of scientific research, millions of years of evolution, Carbon Dating, and geological stratigraphic research, coupled with our understanding of the Big Bang and particle physics is all wrong, just because some book that has gone through more revisions than the Dictionary said so. ...Im having serious doubts about why someone with a Creationist mindset is on a website devoted to SciFi and Technology.
Besides the fact your grammar is atrocious, i believe the term "STFU n00b" apply here. If you have nothing nice to say, dont be surprised when people throw things at you for saying it.

But going back to the original topic at hand. Its a show. It might grow on you.

Obvious troll is obvious. Either that, or the poster is a idiot, neither of which warrants a response. Seriously. The Creationist babble should have been more than enough to figure that out.
 

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Yeah... I thought that too. But i work at Royal Tyrrell Museum and we get a whole tonne of the creationist out there all the time. You would think they have something better to do. But no, its seriously just all they do. Picket and say we are Blasphemers. Either way, struck a nerve, and its the internet. God forbid someone isn't happy on the internet. lol.
But i agree with you pro1337tariat.
 

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Mikeyfell said:
thaluikhain said:
Should be said, though, dinosaurs aren't really that scary. Though, human never co-existed with them, they have lived alongside all sorts of nasty beasts, briefly.

Used to have 2 ton predatory goannas, giant(er) crocodiles, 3m tall kangaroos and predatory birds, 40 ft snakes and so on in Australia. 40-50,000 years ago, intelligent primates with stone tools and fire rocked up and wiped them all out...though, they went on to deny involvement. Same as the Klovis comet rubbish in North America.
You still shouldn't build your house right where crocodiles or kangaroos (or dinosaurs) are known to have their babies. Just to me, that rings of danger.
That's true, of course. One would expect the local area to be cleared of potential hazards first, possibly by use of large Fuel/Air Explosives or similar dramatic measures (though, if it's in the jungle, it's much harder to move people around after it's been bombed to hell).
 

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Based on the synopsis of Terra Nova on Fox's website and the advertising blitz they threw at us I did not have high hopes for the series to begin with. The whole idea of sending people back in time 85 million years to save the species had a huge number of plot holes, as is basic with any time travel story anyway, but the way they went about it was just plain dumb for a variety of reasons. I could argue the bad CGI, kinda bad acting, poor and lazy writing forever. When looking at Terra Nova I don't see these thing I see basic ignorance and glaring stupidity advertised for all to see.
So I'm taking it you didn't like the show then?

Is there any reason you couldn't simply change the channel or turn off the TV then?

First, when we first encounter the time tunnel thing or whatever they state that in dialogue its a one way trip only and that this is the 10th such mission to that time. So basically they can't communicate with the people they already sent if everything is one way? I mean radio waves, even laser communications exist within reality and the way they describe it you are completely cut off. So as a 'pilgrim' you could just be generally being sent to your death none the wiser. I mean there could be a pile of corpses dead on the other side and no one would have any clue.
Because of course we've never sent people into places from where they may never return and we've never in the history of mankind engaged in downright stupid or suicidal expeditions.

Second, sending people back 85 million years is basically just suicide. None of the plants or animals may be edible since our bodes are adapted to the post-Pliocene world, more specifically the Pleistocene and our current Holocene. We are completely unadapted to the Cretaceous world. Not only the food, plant life would be drastically different since flowering plants were just starting to appear. Even the atmosphere could be deadly with differing oxygen levels and microbes we are completely unadapted for. It also works vice versa where a simple bacteria in our bodies could devastate the planet of that time period.
While I'm sure your little rant there does have scientific validity to it this is in fact a fictional show and the scientific inaccuracies you pointed out are not things that most audiences would not be aware of (I'm going with TV Tropes here in that it's not a case of not doing the research unless it's something that should be obvious even to people who aren't that knowledgable in the subject).

You're being a bit too anal about the science here and forgetting that this is supposed to be science fiction (or are yougoing to ruin Aliens for me too by explaining how scientifically the Xenomorph's life cycle wouldn't actually work along with most of their biology?).

Lastly, is the ethnocentric way humanity is being saved. Apparently mankind encompasses Anglo-Saxon traditional white Americans. Now one can argue that some minorities are there, but they are still minorities. I mean it makes no sense whatsoever. So as long as American culture survives the rest of the world be damned? Last I checked America was on the downward slope of world power and I highly doubt would be able to enforce committing the rest of the world to death.
That's a casting convention, maybe those were the best actors they had audition for them? Maybe it being an American produvtion meant it would have more American actors in it (yes, I'm pointing out the obvious here but you clearly need it in this case).

Why does Commander Shepard in Mass Effect have a Canadian accent at times? Are we trying to suggest that the best, last hope for humanity...is Canada? (for the reccord I love Canada, you guys are awesome)

Or could it be (feel free to gasp here) that the voice actor happened to be Canadian?

I could go on and on how bad this show is and what a retarded bunch of chimps the writers are for ignoring obvious things. Overall, is just an amazing cascade of failure and I hope I am not the only one who just hopes it goes away very fast.
I wouldn't say they're retarded chimps for neglecting such things as I would point out that you apparantly have stupidly high standards and need to be a bit more open minded about your willingful suspense of disbelief.

Now I'm kindly going to ask you to step off your high horse, you've worn the poor thing out.
 

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i wonder if i'm the only person thinking:It gonna end with everyone dead because even if hey live they're gonna die from what ever killed the dinosaurs
 

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Solkov01 said:
Yeah... I thought that too. But i work at Royal Tyrrell Museum and we get a whole tonne of the creationist out there all the time. You would think they have something better to do. But no, its seriously just all they do. Picket and say we are Blasphemers. Either way, struck a nerve, and its the internet. God forbid someone isn't happy on the internet. lol.
But i agree with you pro1337tariat.

Wait, what? I don't even......they need to get a life. Or a job. One preferably that doesn't involve organizing these things.

The fact you still are working there despite those idiots.....good on you. I don't want them bullying people simply because they are the loudest.
 

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twaddle said:
i wonder if i'm the only person thinking:It gonna end with everyone dead because even if hey live they're gonna die from what ever killed the dinosaurs
There'll be more than enough time in the 20+ million years when it actually happens for their society to develop to a point where they are able to avoid it by a number of different methods.
 

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Mikeyfell said:
Humanity has some real problems if their best and brightest can't see the FUCKING problem with building a settlement ON TOP OF A FUCKING DINOSAUR BREADING GROUND! It wasn't even an accident they picked that spot BECAUSE dinosaurs lay eggs there. And these are the idiots that in charge of saving humanity?
The reason they're kinda forced to do this though, is thats the location where the time portal from the future puts them. So either they set up an entire secure settlement right where the timeportal puts them ensuring those that come through get to a safe location, or they set up the settlement ages away and have the newcomers arrive in the middle of nowhere in the middle of a dinosaur breeding ground with no security whatsoever.

If they dont get any communications from the future, then they also have the added problem of not knowing WHEN the newcomers will be arriving, so they'd have to keep a permanent lookout (again, at the unsecure breeding ground), or leave it completely, which is idiotic.

They didnt choose the location of the time portal, they made the best out of a bad situation and setting up their settlement at that location was the BEST possible decision they could make.
Question: Would you build your house in a spot where you knew something much bigger than you (Even if there's only a 50/50 chance it's carnivorous) came to lay eggs?

Follow up: If you were a scientist would you not at the very least study the egg shells to make sure they came from something harmless on the off chance they ever return?

The "best and brightest" the future had to offer answered both of those questions incorrectly.
I'd have kept walking.
 

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Mikeyfell said:
Question: Would you build your house in a spot where you knew something much bigger than you (Even if there's only a 50/50 chance it's carnivorous) came to lay eggs?

Follow up: If you were a scientist would you not at the very least study the egg shells to make sure they came from something harmless on the off chance they ever return?

The "best and brightest" the future had to offer answered both of those questions incorrectly.
I'd have kept walking.
Did you even read my post? I'm not saying what they did is a genious decision, im saying the location they built their settlement was the BEST case scenario out of multiple less-than-ideal choices.
 

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As i'm English I assume it hasn't been advertised much as I haven't seen any, from your description it sounds bad, and I would rather have Dinotopia or some attempt to restore Primevil to it's former glory (after some actors left the show has hit rock bottom for me).

From the trailers and such, the Sci-Fi world looked call but when the prospect got shown it kinda sapped my interest.
 

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heh, the thread made me think of thise age old action game, Terra Nove. the console crowd nowadays doesn't know games like that anymore.
damn was that thing fugly^^

ah still. rest in peace, looking glass studios :(
 

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You are looking way too much into it, and taking it far too seriously.

Name me a single television show (fictional ones) that can't be picked clean in five minutes in relation to it's realism, if you can convince me of one then I will concede.
 

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The entirety of what you just complained about is nit picky technical details, like the sci-fi nerds complaining about why weapons fire in star wars doesn't destroy asteroids in a realistic manner.

Frankly, while you're not wrong about those details (some of them), none of them have anything to do with the show being good or not. It's not a documentary, it doesn't need to be 100% scientifically accurate to be a good, it just needs to be entertaining. Yes, the more glaring the faults are the harder it will be to enjoy, but none of the faults you mentioned are anything the general viewership is even going to notice, let alone give a shit about.
 

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drosalion said:
I agree with some average acting though, especially with the teen cast (havent had any problems with the adult cast)
I wholeheartedly agree with this. As soon as that black kid walked into frame for the first time I almost changed the channel (I've seen him in several other shows/films and he's always bad. Always) I hated the little girl and most of the other teenagers too but that might just be because they're rebellious teenagers.

Throughout the whole time they were stuck in that car with the dinosaur after them I has hoping to God that at least everyone but the main kid and his girlfriend died. But, no, even the ones that the dinosaurs did get didn't die.

I rather liked the show (aside from the kids and that 6er woman, she reminds me of Nix and I hated Nix with a passion) and I'm going to keep watching it, inaccuracies aside.

@ the OP.

It's called suspending your disbelief.