Except for being so totally historically incorrect it became a joke in itself (or is that what Lovecraft Mythos means, don't really know the term - call me stupid if you want)Sakurazaki1023 said:If you prefer your JRPGs with some humor in them, try Shadow Hearts: Covenant. It has so much humor in it that the only way to take it seriously is as a parody of JRPGs. The combat system is original and the plot is so hilariously overdone it's like nothing you have ever seen(one of your party members is a gay vampire professional wrestler who talks like a he got rejected from a super hero audition and another member is Anastasia Romanov... yes, that one).Songbird-O said:I am quite the Dragon Quest fan.
Most JRPGs I just stay away from. But every now and then, the occasional Baten Kaitos Origins, Golden Sun, or Dragon Quest V will come along to brighten my day.
I like all my games to be lighthearted. No angsty heavy blah blah Final Fantasy crudskies. I like the JRPGs that make you feel like the story was written for the player, instead of the other way around. Case in point, my favorite Final Fantasies are III and IV.
Essentially it's what you would get if you took a history book, combined it with a JRPG plot and added in the Lovecraft mythos (Lovecraft is even a minor character in the third installment of the series) and a massive amount of references and homages to classic horror and literature.
Fallout and Mass Effect are the obvious exceptions, but from what I played of Oblivion (~5 Hours), the first person hacking was a minor improvement at best. It still didn't help that most of that time was spent wandering around a sewer killing rats and watching my 360 glitch (happened twice). I've got nothing against them, I just don't enjoy them...SonicWaffle said:Western-style RPGs which (off the top of my head) I have played on my 360 within the last year;Sakurazaki1023 said:No kidding, I've given up playing any Fantasy WRPGs because I find the one click combat to be even more boring then even the worst turn based one. They also tend to use the "Tolkien" setting way to much...
Although Fallout 3 and Mass Effect have interested me...
- Fallout 3
- Mass Effect
- KoTOR
- Dragon Age: Origins
- Oblivion
- Mass Effect 2
- Penny Arcade: On The Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness episodes 1 & 2
Now, of that list, games which use one-click combat;
- Dragon Age: Origins. Kinda. Unless you use magic or talents. I guess you could play the game only using one-click combat, but be prepared to die a lot.
WRPGs have plenty of reasons to rag on them; the recurring Tolkien theme doesn't really count as the man pretty much defines Western fantasy nowadays, but I get your point. It does get repetitive. However, one-click combat is not really a major problem of the genre.
Actually, we don't talk much because haters are such an irritating breed and we don't want to provoke them.crimson5pheonix said:There are actually quite a few JRPG fans, they just don't talk much because we know they're good.
Even Yahtzee has admitted to liking Earthbound on the SNES. Yeah, surprised the hell our of me too.armaina said:The Mother series is truly one of the best RPG series of all. I know people that dislike JRPGs that still love the Mother series. Goes to show you don't need sex appeal and pretty graphics to make an excellent game.Hazy said:I Love me some Mother.
That should tell you everything.
Fallout is built on the same engine as Oblivion. The controls are mapped pretty much the same, too. When using a melee weapon in Fallout you need to pull the trigger every time you want to swing it, the same as in Oblivion. Just like Fallout, Oblivion has ranged weapons too, except that they take the form of magic spells or bows & arrows rather than guns.Sakurazaki1023 said:Fallout and Mass Effect are the obvious exceptions, but from what I played of Oblivion (~5 Hours), the first person hacking was a minor improvement at best. It still didn't help that most of that time was spent wandering around a sewer killing rats and watching my 360 glitch (happened twice). I've got nothing against them, I just don't enjoy them...
Way to sound exactly like Yahtzee...Scrumpmonkey said:One click combat hasn't been a problem since the mid 90s, where have these people been?!. I think JRPGs need a real kick up the arse if they are ever to evlove past their achetype, i hate to sound like all those other doucebags but... well i am one of them. They are stuck in a rut, they are more focused on spectacle, pomp and genrally taking themselvs WAY too seriously for games with (genrerally) such silly stories and themes.SonicWaffle said:Western-style RPGs which (off the top of my head) I have played on my 360 within the last year;Sakurazaki1023 said:No kidding, I've given up playing any Fantasy WRPGs because I find the one click combat to be even more boring then even the worst turn based one. They also tend to use the "Tolkien" setting way to much...
Although Fallout 3 and Mass Effect have interested me...
- Fallout 3
- Mass Effect
- KoTOR
- Dragon Age: Origins
- Oblivion
- Mass Effect 2
- Penny Arcade: On The Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness episodes 1 & 2
Now, of that list, games which use one-click combat;
- Dragon Age: Origins. Kinda. Unless you use magic or talents. I guess you could play the game only using one-click combat, but be prepared to die a lot.
WRPGs have plenty of reasons to rag on them; the recurring Tolkien theme doesn't really count as the man pretty much defines Western fantasy nowadays, but I get your point. It does get repetitive. However, one-click combat is not really a major problem of the genre.
Maybe it's just Final Fantasy syndrome but every time i try to play a JRPG i run into the same walls. Those walls being the characters, the combat, the plot and especially the dialog and tone. It's an aging format and one i hope we can soon resign to the histoy books of roleplaying much like one click combat (although torchlight is an awful yet addictive game)
I can see your point, but I much prefer the freedom of being able to wonder off course, it adds alot to games for me. Creates the feeling of a living, breathing world rather than a large series of corridors.Darth Pope said:On a separate note, am the only one who doesn't care if a game is linear? Games that go down a straight path tend to have tighter narratives I've found. (Bioware being the exception.)
I love JRPGs. Even more now because I tried to play Oblivion and honestly was not impressed. Now if Fable or Fallout can change my mind it'd be a balance...Mr.Lucifer said:I'm getting a bit tired of this sites hatred for jrpgs. Are there any jrpg fan here including Final fantasy?
I generally don't mind, them, and some of them are among my all-time favourite games. But I'm a trigger-happy dude, and I'm rarely satisfied without something being blown up repeatedly.Mr.Lucifer said:I'm getting a bit tired of this sites hatred for jrpgs. Are there any jrpg fan here including Final fantasy?